Izzo...DUCK here's $4 mil
http://detnews.com/article/20100329/SPORTS0202/3290384/Report--Oregon-p…
Would he ever leave MSU for another college gig?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:26 AM ^
I sure do hope so.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:09 AM ^
Izzo is an MSU lifer. He seems like a fairly modest man from a material needs standpoint so much more money does he need? He is loved and admired in East Lansing (as he should be) and will be for as long as he sticks around. Why leave?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:29 AM ^
He might have considered that. All this means is that MSU's Athletic Budget just went up.
But thanks for the info. Interesting news at least.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:38 AM ^
I agree; I just don’t see him leaving for another college job. MSU keep him happy and his wife is a local.
Eventually, the right professional job will probably lure him away.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:47 AM ^
Unless Dumar's rotating coaches has the Piston's job finally get to him, I don't think he's leaving for that. That way he could get the money, the challenge, and keep his family home. Unless he pulls a quick money grab right at the END of his career. He's King where he's at, and still having success, so why leave?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:03 AM ^
Lupe is local? Who knew?!
March 29th, 2010 at 12:31 PM ^
She was born in Texas, but spent most of her life in East Lansing; her extended family is also local. I believe they actually met when she was an employee of MSU’s athletic department.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:30 AM ^
but I want him to stay (I don't think he's going anywhere just for the record). He is a heck of a coach but he always has an aura of arrogance about him (deservedly so with his teams success). I can't wait for Coach B to get this team built up and wipe that smug look off his face.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:32 AM ^
That does sound crazy.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:54 AM ^
You're right about Izzo...he has at least earned the look. I'm waiting for Butler to wipe the "what the fuck you looking at" look off Morgan's face. That clown is the former-Lion Roy Williams "First Downnnnnnnnnnnn" of college bball.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:57 AM ^
with his stupid salutes. I was ready for them to be out of the tournament for that reason alone.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:10 PM ^
Yeah, fuck these dumb coaches and players for celebrating big plays and wins. Who the hell do they think they are to express excitement when living out their dreams? psssh
Do you usually express your excitement by pasting on a dumb-shit looking scowl/lip snarl everytime you do something good? Didn't think so...
Not in day-to-day life, but when I play sports and we get a big win or I make a big play, I get the feeling like I'm unstoppable, and it shows on my face. No matter how much it may actually look like I have down syndrome.
The point isn't about big plays. The point is about the look-how-fucking-tough-I-am posturing with ANY play. That is why I dropped the Roy Williams (football Roy) reference with the first-downnnnnnnn dance even when the Lions were losing by 30 with one minute left in the game.
Desmond didn't strike the Heisman after every play...just once. That, my friend, is the way it's done.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:33 AM ^
Let's see how he does next weekend. Butler is looking hot and without Lucas will State have enough juice to get it done?
March 29th, 2010 at 11:00 AM ^
Probabaly a tougher matchup for Butler than the last two games -- they completely took Syracuse and K-State out of their games since both like to play at a faster pace. I don't think they saw defense like that very often, if at all, during their seasons. MSU, on the other hand, plays in the conference that is the home of slow-down pace and in your face defense.
But Butler has been winning without even playing a great game in the last few rounds, and by anyone's measurement they played and defeated vastly superior teams to what MSU played. They were pretty much all-around terrible offensively against Murray State other than taking care of the ball, shot fairly poorly against Syracuse, and were absurdly careless with the ball against K-State, but found a way to win all those games with defense, and against K-State also improbably owning the boards.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:33 AM ^
Can we pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase stop posting about Izzo?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:34 AM ^
So... How bout Beilein's future at Michigan?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:38 AM ^
Michigan football, basketball, and hockey are all finished. This is just a topic for discussion, posting some relevant in-state college basketball news. Nothing more.
March 29th, 2010 at 10:48 AM ^
Affects Michigan. Big time, if it were to come to be. Then who's established in the State?
March 29th, 2010 at 10:52 AM ^
What you fail to see, winterblue75, is that Izzo's coaching status has nothing to do with Michigan. I mean, if Izzo does actually end up taking another job, it would have absolutely no effect whatsoever on the University of Michigan's recruiting or its chances to perhaps surpass MSU in the Big Ten.
Would it be important if Jim Tressel got a job offer from USC or if Joe Paterno was thinking about going to Florida? Absolutely not!
This is a MICHIGAN board rabble rabble rabble.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:00 PM ^
Ummm, never said that this had anything to do with UM...read before you babble. And according to the Mgoboard posting rules, other items of interest beside Michigan topics are welcome.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:03 PM ^
No matter how thick you lay on the sarcasm, there's always someone who doesn't catch it...
March 29th, 2010 at 12:11 PM ^
lol. magnus was on your side....
March 29th, 2010 at 10:49 AM ^
Can Izzo pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase stop going to the final four!
March 29th, 2010 at 11:00 AM ^
I think it's more fun to beat $party if he's still there....um, someday.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:17 AM ^
The piece makes a reference to a firm being hired by Oregon to help in the search. It was my belief (could be wrong...) that these firms basically call a coach and say something like 'hey Oregon wants you to be their next coach. at $4 million a year would you listen?'. These firms do this to keep a school from putting a list out in the public that included guys who have no interest in the job. I think Izzo stays (and I want him to) but there might be something to this.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:18 AM ^
He might consider the NBA, but I can't see him taking another college job. He's now been at MSU for like 25 years, including his time as an assistant. He's their Lloyd Carr.
IMO: Izzo’s best skill set (great motivator) would not transition well to the pay-for-play NBA.
I think he's too emotional for the pro game. Still, his competitive juices might eventually push him to take on that challenge.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:25 AM ^
Colin Cowherd just said (turned on tv, it was still on ESPNU from last night) there's no way Izzo is going. So, if he thinks it's a bad idea, it must be happening.
March 29th, 2010 at 11:46 AM ^
The Izzz isn't going anywhere, but let's hope this offer leads to him getting a phat raise from MSU, pissing Dantonio off.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:08 PM ^
Izzo said long ago that he didn't want to still be coaching college ball at the age he is now. Even with the refs helping out in two of the games, getting this team to the Final Four might be his greatest achievement. His monetary value may never be higher than it will be after the tournament.
I expect an NBA team to offer at least $25 million over five years. That would be a nice retirement package. Also, he could do the warrior thing and test himself against the very best the world has to offer. I detest all things Sparty, but I will always respect Izzo as a warrior. I wouldn't mind seeing him behind the Detroit bench next season.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:31 PM ^
It's hard to root against him, so being able to root for him would certainly be a welcome change!
March 29th, 2010 at 12:44 PM ^
Kind of makes you wonder what the national perception of MSU really is. Is Oregon coming after Coach K at Duke? Calipari at UK? Williams at UNC? No...nor even Donovan at Florida, who has more titles than Izzo. Izzo's built quite an empire at MSU and is more synonymous with his school than 99.5% of other D-I coaches, yet he's the one Oregon thinks they can pry away with cash. Even I've got a tiny part of me that's a little bit insulted on MSU's behalf that Oregon thinks their filthy lucre is better than what Izzo's got going at State. Hell, Izzo's been there a lot longer than Bo was here when A&M came running with their megabux.
March 29th, 2010 at 12:57 PM ^
Or they don't think Coach K would leave for anyone but the NBA, that Calipari would be a risky hire with the football team's status, and that Williams wouldn't leave UNC because he's a UNC guy.
But that's exactly the point. Other than the Calipari thing, nobody believes they could get Coach K out of Duke because Coach K is Duke. Roy is a Tar Heel alum, but that means little - guys will leave their alma mater for a better job or more money. But you don't leave UNC for more money.
But MSU apparently doesn't get the same consideration as a job you just don't leave? Despite the fact that Izzo is God's daddy up in East Lansing, has been there 15 years and is a Michigan native, and has been to 13 straight tournaments with multiple Final Fours, Oregon still seems to think all they need is money to place their job on a higher rung than MSU's.
Look at Jim Tressel, his situation is just like Izzo's (state native, non-alum, one national title and tons of success, synonymous with the school he coaches for, could drive a tank through a nunnery in Columbus and nobody would care) but nobody in their right mind thinks he'd leave OSU for more money.
So I see this as a slap in the face toward our Sparty brethren: "you're not good enough to be one of the elite jobs. We have Phil Knight, we can buy you out with our money." Part of me thinks that's hilarious and part of me is actually insulted on Sparty's behalf that a basketball wasteland like Oregon (other than a couple recent tournament appearances, they've been totally off the map for the past forty years) thinks a glimmery new building and a pile of cash trumps what Izzo has built in East Lansing.
Yeah, but MSU had a good program prior to Izzo coming along. I don't know who the previous coach was (I wasn't a basketball fan back then), but they won with Magic back in '79 and they produced some good pro basketball players through the '80s and early '90s before Izzo took over.
So he's not MSU in the way that Krzyzewski is Duke. Duke was nothing prior to Coach K.
I just don't see it as an insult in any way. And like I said, there are mitigating circumstances with some of those guys. The UNC job was Roy Williams's dream job, and he's one year removed from winning a national championship there.
Meanwhile, MSU kind of backed into the tournament. If I remember correctly, they weren't even in the top 25 at the end of the regular season. I think Izzo has done a tremendous job of coaching in the tournament, but honestly, there's a little bit of luck involved in being one of two #5 seeds in the Final Four. In the grand scheme, I don't think MSU is "at the top of its game" right now, even though they're in the Final Four.
But you don't remember Jud (Heathcote)?
And actually Duke had a basketball history better than MSU pre-K/pre-Izzo. They had been to Final Fours and won ACC titles. Chuck Daly was even an assistant there for some of their championship runs. They just didn't become elite until Krzyzewski. But they were pretty good.
I stand corrected. I know Jud Heathcote now that you mentioned his name, but I couldn't think of it a few minutes ago. Like I said, I wasn't a basketball fan back then.
I didn't become a basketball fan until about 2002-03 when some of my friends watched it non-stop. We started playing basketball regularly, playing it on Gamecube, etc. In fact, I had never played a game of 5-on-5 basketball until that year. Otherwise, it was all in someone's driveway, no more than 3-on-3.
Anyway...I stand corrected on MSU and Duke's histories. I remembered Scott Skiles and Steve Smith (and Magic, obviously), and I was under the impression that MSU had a solid program through that entire time.
I think solid is a fair description for MSU. Not super high, not super low.
But geeze, you, (like many others) have never experienced ANY really good Michigan basketball. No wonder last year seems so great for so many.
I did watch a lot of the Fab Five. I didn't understand basketball, but I thought Chris Webber was amazing.
So he's not MSU in the way that Krzyzewski is Duke. Duke was nothing prior to Coach K.
I think you've got it backwards. Duke had an excellent history before K. In fact, they made the national title game in 1978, two years before he arrived. They were one of the winningest schools in history even then. There actually are some parallels between K and RR - both replaced successful, established coaches and struggled mightily early on as they implemented a new system. (Hopefully we'll soon enter the next stage, of K-like success on the gridiron.)
MSU was nothing special when Izzo arrived. Jud Heathcoate, his predecessor, coached for about 20 years, but he basically just lived off the Magic Johnson success forever. They were a non-factor for most of the 1980s and early '90s. They did have one good team in the mid-'80s with Scott Skiles, and won a surprise Big Ten title in 1990 with Steve Smith. But otherwise they had a bunch of NIT/losing seasons.
For the record, Coach K almost took the Lakers job before Phil Jackson did. They talked $$$ and stuff but in the end Coach K decided to stay in the college ranks. Since Coach K turned down Kobe and Shaq and the Lakers, I don't believe anyone in the NBA (other than the Olympic team/Jerry Colangelo) has bothered to try since.
Well I guess the grass would technically be greener as I'm sure his bank account would soar... But I never understood why people can't just be content doing what they are good at.. That kid from Napolean Dynamite... He wanted to get away from the goofy, dorky roles and he ended up getting away from all roles... Nobody wants him. Spurrier... No where near the success.. Pitino. The list is endless. Izzo should just stay where he is. With that said, I'd love him to try having success elsewhere. Just to leve EL.
Izzo will never leave.
Keep dreaming.
Just win baby! Start beating him and we won't need to worry about him as much.
I want to see that vein burst in his neck the next time he doesn't get his way.
Because it is much more fun to play the coaching carousel game...
Who does MSU turn to????
Obviously someone like Brad Stevens from Butler would be a nice fit (young midwest guy with obviously great success at lower level). How about Bruce Pearl? No real area ties but a solid recruiter. Or what about Jamie Dixon? I think hed leave Pitt for a bigger contract. What about Matt Painter? Would MSU hire from another Big Ten team and would Painter leave his alma mater...probably not... would MSU be interested in Bruce Webber? I doubt it...
my money honestly would be on either Stevens or current MSU associate head coach Mark Montgomery (an msu alum) and a strong recruiter in the area, although he has no head coaching experience at any level I believe.
What does everyone else think?
Tommy Amaker