Izzo Whining
After the last week of everyone holding Izzo's nut sack I wonder if he'll be taken to task for acting like a bitch in the post game. I'm not a "you can't blame the refs" guy or a "no excuses" guy so I have no problem with Izzo blowing up the refs in his post game if he wanted or talkin injuries but.....
I thought his dancing around the whole press conference was ridiculous. Either shut the f up or speak like a man. "Butler is a great team, but Raymar was in foul trouble".....It wasn't the refs fault, but I could blow $10,000 in fines real quick" So there's a fine for coaches ripping refs so Izzo says I have nothing to say, because I'd burn $10,000. WTF is he saying?? That seems like bashing the refs to me....fine him for talking about getting the fine.
Beilein was hammered after the MSU meltdown, they even ripped G. Robinson's spring presser for excuses, Izzo needs to be given the same treatment by the bandwagon Green and White media.
I haven't up or down voted anyone in months. Is it possible I have an acolyte? Sure. To show this, notice that his negatives have changed. That's because I just upvoted all this posts (and yours).
not trying to say Izzo is, I tried to make that clear and will admit that I failed. I just disagreed with your examples. Especially the second one. The little things are important to me, I provided what I consider better examples in one of my posts in which frantically trying to avoid sounding like an idiot. :-(
Sorry for the joke. I did read your first post, it was just really really long. I just thought it crazy to compare hockey calls and basketball calls when you don't know much about basketball calls.
No coach in the history of coach is happy when their team loses. Izzo was most likely a little pissed and to call one coach a whiner is throwing stones in a glass house.
I know, I write really long posts, it's really the only time I feel compelled to post is when I have something to say that might take a while. It's a bad habit, and why I get upset when someone is going to respond and dismiss it based on a sentence :-p
I will freely admit that Red complains a TON and a lot of it is just complaining, but it isn't always. When something goes wrong in the administration of a sport, if something can be done to make the game more fair, it should be. I think that fixing it should be commended, not ridiculed.
I would also like to make it even more clear that I am NOT condemning Izzo for complaining, I realize everyone does it, I don't care that he does it, it's part of the game, if it gets him one make-up call later, it was probably worth it. I was just trying to defend Red, as the examples Chitown used, weren't the best. These links might have been better:
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-hockey/recaps/022810aaa.html
http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-hockey/recaps/021410aad.html
And a thousand more where those came from (Michigan hockey recap-->quotes (from a loss, generally, though there are plenty from wins as well)), where he is straight-up complaining about calls.
Yeah, man. I hate complainers and people who whine. It's like, come on man, really? God I hate those guys. They just complain non stop. I just fucking hate them. I wish they would just go away and give it a rest, you know? Man those guys suck, it's like quit it dude, it's just a game. Don't even get me started on those dudes who complain about complainers. Man, it's like, self awareness much?
I mean, I hate those guys almost as much as those dudes who ramble. It's like they go on and on and on. I mean, really? Right up there with those guys who beat dead horses, you know? They just irk me so much. Just keep on keepin' on and it's like, come on man, just stop. We got the point a loooong time ago. Ok. You know?
Really sharp.
I tried. Hard.
To be fair chitown - there is a difference between refs deciding not bail out a player seeking to draw a call and refs blowing a play dead when the puck is clearly still in play. The former is a judgment call on which any given ref could go either way, and the latter was without a doubt an error on the part of the official.
To make matters worse, the refs in the hockey game had previously allowed Miami to hack away at Hunwick when the puck actually was covered, resulting in their second goal. They not only blew the call once, but ruled in the opposite direction when the other team faced the same situation. Frankly, you would expect the officials to be more cautious in blowing the whistle too early in OT than they would in regulation, but the opposite occurred.
Whining by coaches is annoying, but there is a difference between not getting the benefit of the doubt and being on the short end of a call that was clearly in error.
Read Izzo's quotes. He did not refer to a specific whistle. People here put words into his mouth and refer to the last call. He did not say a word about the lack of whistle on the last call.
Fair enough. My point was simply that the call against Michigan was clearly wrong, and had gone against Michigan earlier when Miami hacked at a puck that was actually covered. It is almost universally accepted as wrong. If you show the Michigan replay to any (honest) official, they would tell you it was a mistake. I don't know if there were any calls that went against MSU that would be that clear cut.
I don't really have an issue with coaches complaining about officiating, but Izzo's about the last guy who should be doing so. His team's whole style of play is dependent on the officials not calling the game the way the rules intend. If officials would be consistent in not allowing players to go over the back for rebounds, and not allowing perimeter defenders to hand-check, MSU would be in foul trouble every game. Their rep as a "physical" team has earned them the benefit of the doubt many nights.