How costly was the missed extra point?
November 7th, 2009 at 7:45 PM ^
Couldn't see the game live, but I don't think anyone on the CiL mentioned it being blocked. Then again, there were like 200 comments within half a second.
In the end, there were plenty of other things that went into the score. Can't pin it all on that.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:45 PM ^
i was at the game, and i guess i put my head down for the miss cos i didnt see it. i told my friend that it might come back to haunt us. as it turns out, it cost us the game
November 7th, 2009 at 7:57 PM ^
Actually, I think it was the 37 other points, homie.
Not apportioning any blame here, but second-guessing an extra point is not really getting at the issues this team as.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:48 PM ^
That XP was the biggest single point in the game. After that point we were always chasing points. Make that and only have to hit the XP to tie instead of going for 2.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:33 PM ^
The EP was announced good at the game, sigh.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:45 PM ^
i was at the game, and i guess i put my head down for the miss cos i didnt see it. i told my friend that it might come back to haunt us. as it turns out, it cost us the game
November 7th, 2009 at 7:46 PM ^
Oh well, shit happens. However, I would have liked to see Denard in on the 2-point conversion, although i'm completely fine with Tate running it.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:01 PM ^
Not sure what we were thinking going for it on 4th and 10 on Purdue's 20 with 4 1/2 to go.
Kick the field goal, Minors touchdown and we win. Instead we go for it on fourth, play breaks down, we do an option and the rest is history.
Seriously with over 4 minutes to play, you have to get the points hope our D holds them to 3 and out(which is tough to imagine so far this year) and get a chance for the win.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:13 PM ^
I was happy to see them go for it on fourth and ten. Who's to say are D would hold. If Purdue got going they'd run the clock out and we'd never see the ball. The D hasn't held hardly at all this year. Minors touchdown may have never happend if they wouldn't have went for it. Purdue pinned themselves with the penalities which set up the put for hemmingway to return it to the ten. I wish they wouldn't have tried for a 55 yard fg. They shoulda pooched punt with tate or tried to pick up a first down.
On a side note, I made it to my first game this year and there was this lady sayin " Go back to west virgina RR, we don't fn want you" and on and on. Its pretty sad when are own fans try to ride RR out of the damn state before he's had a chance to do anything. It made me want to pull a wayne brady off chappeles show and ask her if i needed to choke a bitch.
Also when brian was complaining about the piped in music I thought he may have been complainig to just complain, but after being there It really does suck. It may have something to do with speaker positioning and crappy speakers but I coulda done without it.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:47 PM ^
I'm packin it in. It was a tough season everyone, we had some moments, but in the end there wasn't really that much progress. I don't even care who wins the next two games or if we make a bowl game.
Hope our recruiting goes well and that we make some strides in the off season. Everyone that is screaming for RR getting fired or any other nonsense, get a grip. He's going to get at least 2 more years, and rightfully so.
Just get over it. Move on to hoping next year we make real progress, or then it'll get really ugly.
Good luck and good night.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:59 PM ^
Bye bye.
Wasn't too nice having you around.
You didn't have shit to say, and you gave up on a young team.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:07 PM ^
You don't read very well or aren't trying very hard.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:23 PM ^
I don't even care who wins the next two games or if we make a bowl game.
piss off, quitter
November 7th, 2009 at 8:56 PM ^
you just proved that you only read the first sentence. nice work. point made.
u sir, must have a tiny wiener and a penchant for skimming...
November 7th, 2009 at 7:48 PM ^
And Olesnavage is a shankappotamus.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:52 PM ^
Without the FG, the Extra point would not be in question......
November 7th, 2009 at 7:54 PM ^
It was costly, but not as costly as not kicking the FG on 4th and 9.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:59 PM ^
That onside kick and the TD that followed was the back-breaker. Missed extra points happen sometimes; he also kicked a career-long 51 yarder. There is enough blame to go around for a loss like this.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:12 PM ^
This defense is a ticking time bomb and cannot afford to let the other team have extra possessions. The offense did much better today only giving up 1 turnover (although that 1 was costly) but that onside kick was brutal.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:03 PM ^
Not only the onside kick a back breaker, but when forcier tried to flip it minor and it hit purdue defender recovered. Then they go 1 play and score to set up the onside kick. I'm not sure how forcier didn't see that guy. However, I really can't pin this on the offense. The O has been puttin up points that I can't really remember when carr was there. Its not just a game here or there either. Puttin up 30+ on teams should win, but the D just can't seem to step up. It gets to 3rd down and its like they just give them the first down.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:01 PM ^
one point
November 7th, 2009 at 8:05 PM ^
/thread
November 7th, 2009 at 8:01 PM ^
Wasn't blocked - just straight up hooked. Did pretty much the same thing on the 48 yd attempt in the 4Q. He has had an excellent season so it's tough to put any blame on him. Plus, he didn't give up 360 yds passing to Joey Elliot.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:13 PM ^
I think the 38 points yielded by the defense played a slightly larger part in the loss than the extra point.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:19 PM ^
Bowl Game
November 7th, 2009 at 8:19 PM ^
He actually announced that the kick was good. Which was kinda confusing due to the officials signaling no good. Just a funny little side note for those who were not there and couldn't hear that.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:25 PM ^
Grapentine definitely had an off day today.
"The extra point is good, the score is Michigan 31, Purdue 10. Er, the kick is no good, Michigan 30, Purdue 10."
"And it'll be fourth down for Purdue. Correction, the pass was intercepted by (player's name)."
"Jason Forcier's pass complete to (player). Err, Tate Forcier's pass complete."
November 7th, 2009 at 8:21 PM ^
Not nearly as costly as blowing a 14 point lead.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:29 PM ^
seeing that we lost by two, it doesn't matter.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:10 PM ^
one missed point in this case cost us two points really.
One on the original touchdown, and by technicality (through forcing us to go for two) one on the final touchdown.
edit: but I can't really get on Olesnavage's case for it. Dude hit his career-long today.
edit2: I don't know who negged you, but it wasn't me (really now, how is that comment neggable? +1 for a bit of offset)
November 8th, 2009 at 12:29 AM ^
obviously, it was very critical. Hard to rag on the kicker after he hit that 52 yarder today though.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:03 AM ^
I have a hard time ragging on Olesnavage, period. For most of the season he's been at the very least competent, and at the best quite good.
After all, he's a walk-on who didn't see game action at all before this year. Yet before today, he had missed exactly one field goal and no extra points, which had him as the 22nd best kicker in the country in terms of percentage, and a bunch of the dudes ranked ahead of him are only there because they're 1-of-1 on the season. (In the same time frame, Wisconsin's kicker missed 6 FGs and 1 XP!)
Lots of kickers have missed at least one XP this season. Notre Dame's K, who has hit 93.3% of his FGs, has missed 3 this season.
In general, we have enjoyed kicking competence for years at Michigan, and Olesnavage has more or less continued that tradition. He had two bad kicks on a really windy day, and I'm sure he's beat himself up plenty over it.
Olesnavage has been a bright spot this season, and I hope he gets the NFL tryout he deserves.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:56 PM ^
with you until the last part. Olesnavage doesn't have the leg to consistently make long kicks. And if you are going to be drafted or signed as a FA, I think you have to have good accuracy at long distance.
That being said, Olesnavage has been a bright spot. Missing 1 XP and a field goal or 2 would have vastly overshot my expectations for our kicker.