January 23rd, 2011 at 12:24 PM ^
His offer was pulled. He's not coming here.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:25 PM ^
Do you know for what?? Hoke just not talk to him or something??
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:27 PM ^
It's not looking like we are going to take a receiver in this class.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:28 PM ^
For every question you could possibly have, see this thread.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:29 PM ^
The coaches think we already have too many receivers, and I agree with them.
January 23rd, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^
I agree for 2011. But after Odoms, Hemingway, Stonum graduate I would like to have one Redshirt Fr. ready to back-up a Sr. Roundtree, RSo J. Robinson, and a Sr. Stokes (if he can start living up to his potential). And yes, I know that J. Jackson and Williamson are WRs (but assume they are No.5 guys in 2012) and RIcardo will be starting at TE by then. Then we lose ROundtree and Stokes in 2012.
I think we need 1 WR in this class. Lucien or Flowers. Not both.
Otherwise, we're looking at playing a true freshman in 2012 for the No. 4 or No. 5 spot.
Thanks for not studying Conway.
January 23rd, 2011 at 1:53 PM ^
January 23rd, 2011 at 2:12 PM ^
Personal preference, not official University of Michigan Football necessity.
And when did you crawl back from out of your Golden Gopher hole? I've dearly missed your obnoxious and antagonistic know-it-all posts. Welcome back.
January 23rd, 2011 at 2:27 PM ^
You do remember that we only use 2-3 WR's in the pro style offense? There's a good chance the #5 guy won't see the field all year.
It's really your personal preference that we leave gaps at other positions so we can have 16 WR's on the roster? That seems pretty dumb.
January 23rd, 2011 at 2:48 PM ^
Personal preference as to redshirting WRs, Having 1 WR in any class is not a dumb idea. To argue otherwise is just changing common sense opinion to adjust to the reality of the situation.
Last week everyone was excited/expecting Lucien and/or Flowers and saying "at least one", now, you have a few (not necessarily you) saying "we don't need any WRs in this class".
January 23rd, 2011 at 3:12 PM ^
January 23rd, 2011 at 2:41 PM ^
I wouldn't ignore them here. Desmond Howard and others have not had prototypical outside WR height but proved successful in pro-style offense.
They can certainly be considered options as 3rd/4th WR on 3 or 4-wide formations.
The depth at WR is enormous and Michigan has bigger worries at literally every other position.
January 23rd, 2011 at 1:59 PM ^
I don't get why everyone is freakin about not getting a WR in this class. We have 9 WR's and 7 slot receivers. We don't need more right now and with limited time we needed to focus on more pressing areas.
January 23rd, 2011 at 4:12 PM ^
However, those too many receivers will be playing their last season this fall. I don't see how bringing in a quality receiver is a bad idea.
January 23rd, 2011 at 1:24 PM ^
Technically,no. I actually talk like him in my normal voice.
January 23rd, 2011 at 2:19 PM ^
I'm guessing you don't live within 500 feet of a church, library, or school.
January 23rd, 2011 at 2:13 PM ^
lmao!!! I really just laughed out loud with that pic....great one +1
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:58 PM ^
Makes you wonder if sometimes stringing out the schools backfires on these kids. If he wanted to go Blue he should have done it weeks ago when the offer was still good!
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:25 PM ^
Hoke didn't want a downfield receiver in this class. What were you doing on his facebook anyway? There's a place and time for everything creepy, it's called twitter.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:25 PM ^
Bam! just like that out of here
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:28 PM ^
Tells you something I'd he's ending up at that school. Doesn't sound like all the a-list schools came through.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:29 PM ^
Now we're all going to have to watch this kid turn into an awesome wide out while NOT wearing the Maize and Blue. I for one am disapointed.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:31 PM ^
I wish him the best. I'm not really worried though. and I was way more upset and disappointed over Watkins.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:34 PM ^
If it makes you feel any better, I think he's just an average receiver. I don't think you're going to see him develop into a star at his chosen school.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:43 PM ^
Agreed. After pulling Lucien's offer, I would rather not take a receiver at all in this class. He was by far the best WR we were in on.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:36 PM ^
Who knows, he could be the next Cameron Colvin. He picked Oregon over UofM and never panned out. But he seemed like a huge loss at the time.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:46 PM ^
What about the 12 WRs we have on scholarship already? Can't they become awesome wideouts now that we are going to return to having an offense that does things like throw to wideouts downfield? I bet that will ease your pain.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:59 PM ^
Well said. Imaginary +1 for you.
January 23rd, 2011 at 1:01 PM ^
But are you the one who ran the Go Blue page on facebook?
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:35 PM ^
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:36 PM ^
I understand everyones "dissapointment" but how can everyone conclude that he is going to become an awesome wideout while the other 3 star wide outs from last year we are saying are awful. A week ago people wanted Lucien over Flowers and not everyone is like OMG FLOWERS IS AMAZING.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:37 PM ^
This will be a pig pickup for the ducks. I think he is perfect for their offense.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:41 PM ^
I agree. Oregon needs reliability on the outside so they can keep the ball moving. They make their big plays in the running game. I think he would fit just fine there...if he chooses Oregon.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:47 PM ^
He was supposed to be good friends with avery
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:38 PM ^
let me be frank... if a recruit doesn't see the greatness of the program and the benefit of coming here vs a lesser program, then i dont want him, because he must be an idiot not to realize it. seriously.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:43 PM ^
He's not an idiot if the coaches don't want him here moron.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:51 PM ^
Agreed, why should he come if the coaches don't want him.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:42 PM ^
Is what its supposed to be like. Sorry its michigan and only a few get tabbed a year. The problem is the last coaches were scholly whores. They threw them out and tried
January 23rd, 2011 at 1:40 PM ^
Far and away the dumbest post in this thread. Congrats.
January 23rd, 2011 at 7:23 PM ^
Top school in the country that threw out the number of offers we did under rr and co. Dude wasnt a great recruiter period.
January 23rd, 2011 at 7:35 PM ^
Stanford
January 24th, 2011 at 10:45 AM ^
I didn't realize that a team who had gone 15-22 over three seasons was a top program.
By the way, most recruiting services disagree with you on Rodriguez's recruiting skills.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^
A football team can never have enough receivers.
Signed Matt Millen
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^
I guess it doesn't matter at this point, so I'll tell you what happened. From what I said yesterday, I had been talking to him throughout the day. He had tried to get in contact with Coach Hoke to talk to him for the past few days to a week, but didn't hear from him (this didn't just happen yesterday, it just ended yesterday).
The coaches told him that Hoke would call a few times, and he never did. Flowers' dad finally called yesterday and told them that he was officially decommitting, since he had previously considered himself a silent commit. The coaches said they were sorry, that they understood, and figured he would.
So you can figure out that they didn't want him in this class for whatever reason.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:49 PM ^
Thanks Tom. That is rough for the kid. I like Coach Hoke, but he should have called the kid or have someone else do it. Let the kid move on. I am guessing he sort of did that with Lucien with the position switch.
Maybe I am naive and this happens all the time in CFB, but sort of disappointed that he wasn't told earlier.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:52 PM ^
I don't think it was so much intentional as it was bad timing. Hoke has had a lot on his plate, so it's not something that I would think about too much. It's not behavior that I would expect to continue in the future, just an awkward situation where one staff wanted him and the other didn't.
January 23rd, 2011 at 12:55 PM ^
Sam Webb said it right when he said every call that goes unanswered from a coach is intentional. Of couse he wasn’t talking about Flowers, but Auburn ignoring a certain recruit.
January 23rd, 2011 at 1:00 PM ^
Intentional in the sense that they didn't want him, yes. Not intentional in the sense that they were trying to be jerks, or sleazy.