Hello Tyler McLaurin
Welcome!
Relevant info and a link to his junior year highlights.
The descent into MSU recruiting territory on defense continues.
Tyler McLaurin 3 star #404 overall
Jaden McBurrows 3 star #627 overall
TJ Guy 3 star #782 overall
Casey Phinney 3 star NR
Dominick Guidice 3 star NR
Michigan will not beat Ohio State under Harbaugh. It's pretty much written in stone at this point, and a large reason for that is because his recruiting is sub par.
Maizen! You're back! We missed you so much!
"We missed you so much!" - doesn't mean what you think it means.
/jk
Still early, but if this trajectory continues, this will either be the most amazing case study of scouting players that aren’t ranked very high and having them pay huge dividends, or this will be a class that could set the program back 2 years (at least in the defensive side of the ball).
We all already know how this is going to turn out. More losses to OSU, more excuses from the UM fan base, more money in Harbaugh bank account. It's a cult at this point because no one can just objectively admit that this is just piss poor recruiting by UM standards.
Since you are quite perceptive in understanding the poor recruiting going on, why don't you enlighten us with your plan to lure the 5*s needed to beat Ohio State to Ann Arbor? Give specifics too. First start out with your own credentials. Provide a list of all the 5* recruits you've landed over the years. Then, state exactly what you would do. Don't just give platitudes either (i.e. "I would really pursue this 5* hard!"); provide specifics such as how many times per week you would contact that recruit, and what you would say to him. Most importantly, explain how your methods would differ from the current staff, because I'm assuming you're basing your criticism on very detailed, insider information about the techniques Harbaugh uses, and aren't just making a results-based complaint. Compare and contrast specifics, and then explain why your techniques would work, based upon your experience and expertise.
Clearly, your talents are needed. It's time to put your recruiting knowledge to use to help the program.
Copy and prepare to paste each and every time. Honestly, if someone has an actual fact base idea, present it. If not, ......
Congratulations Tyler. Glad to have you.
Amen
If you were a five star recruit, would you sign with the team that has given up 118 points to OSU in the past two seasons? Would you sign with a school that has never played in the championship playoffs? I mean, let’s be honest, there’s only so much we can do at this point until results on the field change.
There's a difference between recruiting as well as OSU and not even recruiting in the same universe. You say lets be honest, ok lets, this is the best UM can do? Two kids with zero power offers? Another whose best offer was Iowa State? Another whose best offer was Syracuse? Get the fuck out of here. UNC has the #2 class this year. Tennessee is top 5. Tell me again how many wins those schools have in the last 15 years again? That's what I thought. For 8 million dollars a year this is what you all think is the best we can do? Fuck outta here.
I disagree with how you assess recruiting just by the stars. Sure 5 Stars are incredible athletes that will probably be awesome players, as that fact seems to be bearing itself out clearly. And OSU is riding an incredible wave of those types of players now that Urban’s recruiting machine is rolling.
if you want to say Michigan should get more 5 stars, I think we all would like to see that. However, I don’t think Harbaugh was ever thought of as that type of recruiter.
The main problem in your logic is this 3 stars suck mentality. The main difference between most 4 stars and 3 stars is exposure, playing opportunities, ability to go to camps, etc. There are a lot of great 3 stars out there and some terrible 4 stars. It’s at that level where I think these recruiting services struggle. They don’t see all these kids.
So if Michigan loves a 3 star and sees potential or a great fit in the system I am all for bringing that kid in! I think this kid they got sounds like a long, athletic, and intelligent player. Lots of potential, and I love that he is going to be a Wolverine!
So your whole argument is basically that for 8 million you want to see more 5 stars. I get that. But that is your whole argument...stop there. No need to bash the kids Michigan is brining in.
Also, calm the fuck down.
I think there is a middle area of expectations between finding under the radar 3*s and expecting a flood of 5*. It is not unreasonable to expect Harbaugh and staff to to get middle to high 4* recruits (players that you can beat Ohio State with). There is a big difference between a middle to high 4* and a 3*. Low end 4* and high end 3* are arguably close. Yes, there are occasions where 3* turn into high draft picks but the odds are much much lower.
We are not beating OSU anytime soon. That is a fact. So ... I’ll take beating Nebraska, MSU, and Kentucky to recruits. Better than losing to them. Rather be big boy in the smaller pond.
Agreed. This year may make a great case study primarily because of the lack of spring ball, camps, and very possibly, no season. There’s usually quite a bit of movement after a player’s junior season. All recruiting services have to judge right now are offers so a lot of guys will be mis-ranked and if our staff excels at evaluating talent, this will be the year to cash in on it.
I admit to being a stargazer, and for good reason, but this is a year to ignore rankings and truly trust the coaches.
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I don’t know the cost but I know that the capability exists to ban users by IP address. At least it would force Maizen to buy a VPN program to keep up his one man crusade to “illuminate” all of us idiots.
How dare you say what everyone is thinking out loud!!! I agree but I’m going to neg you because I like to pretend everything is fine.
Negging obviously makes things less true didn't you hear. Meanwhile PJ Fleck is pulling in top 247 recruits and has already had an 11 win season at Minnesota. MINNESOTA!
Just too much to ask Harbaugh to do. BTW another 3 star is expected to commit tomorrow. Rod Moore. He's #378 overall. Michigan is affectionately known on the OSU boards as "3 star U" now and none of their fans understand why our coach keeps settling for these type of recruits.
When you compare not only the caliber of recruits UM is going after on offense and the schools we are up against to that of the defense it is night and day. It speaks to a defensive staff that can't recruit at the level they need to. So what happens is they go after a bunch of guys getting recruited by schools like Pitt, Iowa State, Syracuse, the service academies, BC, etc. Then we get sold a bill of good about how awesome their tape is and how great our coaches are at developing and finding talent. Reality is they are no better than anyone else in the power 5. In fact to recruit this poorly with the UM logo on their chest and all the things UM can sell it means they probably really suck at recruiting.
It's really sad watching UM football die before our eyes, especially as someone who vividly remember the 90s and the beating we used to put on OSU.
Minnesota’s is recruiting mostly 3 stars, genius.
Uh, so is Michigan genius. Minnesota is also recruiting at a higher level than at anytime in the history of their program during the internet recruiting era. They've gotten commitments from a top 100 cornerback and a top 247 RB this cycle already. They are also Minnesota, genius. It's all relative. Give Fleck the Michigan logo and he's signing top 5 classes here. Harbaugh's recruiting on defense has fallen off a cliff. It's sad I'm the only one willing to admit this. But like I said, cult members gonna cult.
Your fucking argument was that Fleck was recruiting better at Minny than UM was, and then someone corrected you that they are recruiting 3-stars. And in fact, they are not recruiting better.
Then, you mention the Top-100 CB and Top 247 RB they have as proof they are doing better, but dont mention the Top-15 QB, Top -100 OL, or two other Top-247 OL UM has.
Okay.
Are you fucking dumb? He's signing top 247 recruits AT MINNESOTA YOU FUCKING IDIOT. Minnesota. Not USC or Bama or UGA......Minnesota. And then you want to compare him to Michigan? Holy shit you are fucking dumb.
PJ Fleck is doing things at Minnesota no coach has done in decades and your response to that is yeah well Michigan has more 4 stars. IT'S MICHIGAN YOU DUMBASS. MICHIGAN. HOLY SHIT. God damn this fan base is fucking stupid as shit. Is Harbaugh making the most of his resources at UM? No. Is Fleck at Minnesota? Yes, and then some. That's the crux of what I'm saying. If Minnesota can sign top 247 recruits why is UM settling for kids with zero power 5 offers on defense and competing with ISU and Pitt for others? Make sense now you moron?
Minnesota is recruiting 3 stars mainly, and then developing them / getting the most from them far better than Michigan’s staff is. That is simply undeniable. Hurts to say, but simply the truth.
Michigan is developing recruits just fine. Look at the rankings of all the guys who got drafted in the last couple of years. What they're not doing is holding onto them. Eight defensive linemen in the 2017 class, EIGHT, and it's the team's biggest weakness. Hopefully they've figured things out since that class, but that one was a complete disaster. That and the fact that the quarterback play has not lived up to what we expected when Harbaugh was hired.
Michigan is developing some players - not all. Should be much more. Also, we can’t beat the teams we need to consistently.
If, Minnesota's staff had been around long enough to really make this claim, it would still be incorrect.
While Minny had a couple of 3-stars drafted this year, UM had three stars in Uche, Metellus, Runyan all drafted, along with Jordan Glasgow, who was the third walk-on Glasgow to be drafted
Bro UofM football died after Lloyd’s last year. Harbaugh revived it after one of the worst decades of Michigan football history. I feel like you just love having these straw man arguments with yourself. You seem like a annoying person. Work on that.
Revived it to what? Losing 3-4 games a year? He certainly didn't revive it to Lloyd Carr levels. Lloyd Carr was 29-6 against MSU, PSu, and Wisconsin. He won 5 big ten titles. He beat OSU six times. He won a national title.
Harbaugh isn't close to doing any of that. But hey, I guess because UM made two bad coaching hires we should all be thankful he isn't as bad as those two and just ignore the 100 years of success before that. Great idea!
Wow a legitimate response. I mean I really didn’t expect that. I think Harbaugh has certainly disappointed when compared to a lot of folks expectations. However, don’t pretend Bo-Mo-Lloyd were operating at current day OSU levels. I think Michigan fans get hated on a bunch by other fans with how they remember Bo, great coach, man etc but certainly had some disappointing finishes. How did Carr finish against OSU?
He actually revived it to exactly Carr levels with almost idential win precentages. Look it up dumbass. Carr-era OSU sucked compared to today's monster.
Your problem, dumbass, is that not all wins are created equal. Carr was 20-8 against top 10 teams. He beat OSU six times. He won a national title. He won 5 big ten titles. He was 29-6 against MSU, UW, and PSU.
Makes sense now dumbass? Hold this L.
Congrats on that W. I am sure your mom is very proud.
And you still think that people do not like you simply because they do not like what you have to say? Such a martyr, you poor thing.
Michigan football has fallen far enough that our recruiting is getting compared to MSU, Minnesota and other second tier teams in the conference because that i a east the results on the field show.
If we are being honest, Harbaugh has not lived up to the hype or the salary. The gap between us and OSU has never been wider. And there us nothing to suggest any of that is changing.
Winning 72% of your games is nice, but getting drilled by top 10 teams and getting embarrassed in bowl games and destroyed by your rival every year is not worth the money.
All these negatives about Harbaugh are true and the defense will continue to slide as long as Don Brown is here.
Face the facts Michigan is not in the same class as OSU, Wisconsin and PSU (PSU at least has a shot to beat OSU every year. We don't) not to mention any team in contention for the CFP.
Right on! Loading up the LB unit to the max. I think Michigan is planning ok picking up another 1-2 LB’s in the class.
Tyler has some decent Mid-Power 5 offers, but nothing that jumps out at you and says he’s a great LB. Don does a good job of developing LB’s so we’ve got that going for us.
We’re not done this week either!
Three Star Maria!
Thankfully you don’t know shit about players.
Is that his mom or is his sister also a recruit?
Sounds like the name of a female pirate captain...three star maria
In this day and age of players transferring for playing time, makes sense to load up on a ton of LBs and let them fight it out. Over recruit and process them. Now if only they would take the same approach with 300 lb DTs.
Ave, María!
Welcome, young man! I hope to see you do well and help brung great success to the team!
A guy the staff has targeted for a while. Great news, welcome!
If we also land Hood and Colson too, that LB room will stay loaded for years to come
If by loaded you mean a bunch of three stars then sure.
Few things that stand out:
1) He's already pretty physically devleoped
2) He looks pretty solid in coverage
3) He doesn't look super fast, but he covers a lot of ground. He's one of those guys who has deceptive speed cus he's tall
He taught me a new word! Academic fit like a glove.
a good comp for McLaurin is McCray. Not a guy who jumps off the screen athletically but someone who does a lot of things well.
Wears #9 and looks like him when he runs.