Don

February 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 AM ^

One guy after another thrown off the team, guys getting busted for dope, a bunch of kids end up in the hospital because of clueless S&C coaches, and parents still let their kids go there.

There's no figuring people.

nsweet

February 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 AM ^

Ahhh the power of persuasion!  Being a good salesman you can sell most anything to people.  Not saying that it is right, but it happens all the time.  I have met many people who are a bit low on common sense, that can help.

njv5352

February 2nd, 2011 at 11:22 AM ^

Completely agree with you Don. I know as a parent that would be a sign that a program was in trouble and it would be a cold day before I sent my kid there. I guess some of these kids are pretty convincing when they tell their parents that it would never happen to them. They will only focus on football and stay out of trouble, wink wink. This shows a fundamental lackbof control.......keeping players out of trouble and out of harms way. I know an 18-22 year old kid is going to do things, but are they being counselled into being young men or are they just being used as football players. I would hope our coaches expect so much more.

Michigania

February 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 AM ^

Thats nonsense. The Iowa program is not in trouble.  But what IS nonsense, to me at least, is why a recruit would pick Iowa over Michigan. Granted, I am biased because I went to Michigan, but unless one loves corn and/or black uniforms, then the Michigan program and academics are superior in nearly every way.  

Sven_Da_M

February 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 AM ^

... I was wondering if Ferentz would survive the 13 players being hospitalized, unauthorized medical records access and a few of the players *maybe* suffering permanent kidney damage.

But, hey, I guess this is the sort of excessive practice that the NCAA apparently doesn't care about!?!

gObLuE1992

February 2nd, 2011 at 11:28 AM ^

I can't stand that damn LiveBlog. People, rankings and stars aren't everything! Look at ND. Top classes EVER year. What has that led to? Oh, GARBAGE seasons!? Look at Tennessee. Look at all the 4-5 stars they pull in. How many wins have they averaged lately? Look at Georgia and all their 4-5 stars. They've been garbage since Stafford left. Stop putting so much stock into stars/rankings.

Sucks to lose Cooper (If it's true) but it's not the end of the world. I'd rather have good coaches than top recruiting classes everyday of the week.

gObLuE1992

February 2nd, 2011 at 11:37 AM ^

No. It was not a stupid post. How many top classes did RRod pull in? How successful was he? Mark Ingram wasn't highly rated. David Harris wasn't highly rated. Clay Matthews wasn't highly rated. Donovan Warren was highly rated and never lived up to the hype. Teams like Wisconsin, Boise State, Iowa, and TCU never get those flashy classes but they seem to do fine.

BradP

February 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 AM ^

Cooper seemed like a smart kid, so I would imagine Iowa having two defensive linemen likely to be drafted in the first round in 2011 probably had something to do with his commitment.

While I am impressed with Hoke's rounding out of this recruiting class, I am a little disappointed that he and Mattison, in spite of their background, have had so much trouble getting a DT in here.

Are we destined to have Greg Mattison repeat  "I coached Ray Lewis" until Michigan is forced by its personnel to run a 2-7-2?

 

The Borg

February 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 PM ^

While difficult to assess Cooper's intelligence through the nominal information available, I do trust the coaches discernment in all areas regarding recruiting. Therefore, to assert as Brad does that he "is a little disappointed" Hoke & Mattison haven't brought in a DT presupposes knowledge of DT's which were as of three weeks ago:

1) Open to adding UM to their list of possible schools

2) Open to reversing their verbal commitment of another school (Cooper)

3) Would be academically qualified (No more Demar Dorsey's, thank you)

4) Would be athletically gifted enough to play at Michigan

Let's face it, there weren't many prospects out there that would meet my minimal criteria. Unless one can offer other prospects, it is silly to say one is disappointed in the coaches effort thus far in trying to land a DT. Before getting negative, let's give Hoke a full year to recruit before asserting alleged deficiencies.