How dare you remove my post!
... Who is this dude?
How dare you remove my post!
... Who is this dude?
Big. Slow. I don't get it.
possibly a tight end?
Future tight end maybe? He seems to have freakin' outstanding hands.
That kid made numerous leaping or stretching catches. I can't believe that people are actually upset with this commit. IME, he looks as good as, if not better than, any of the WR's we signed in the 2010 class.
Just goes to show that beauty (or fondness for a recruit) is, indeed, in the eye of the beholder.
Welcome aboard, Mr. Conway!
You're probably going to get negged for that, but yeah. I don't get it either. Trust the coaches I guess.
I'm starting to wonder, though, how good a lot of these "super sleeper" types really are. If this guy ends up with three stars, would he have gotten the same evaluation if he'd committed to West Virginia? With the number of sleepers we're taking it's a question worth asking.
From the last couple of recruiting years we all know that RR suffers the Slot/WR addiction. This is very similar to the affliction that Matt M suffered from on Draft Day with the Lions.
By this time last year he had already bagged 3 WR. He has not signed any offensive players since White in July, and no WR sleepers since April.
Give RR a break here guys, he has gone 10 months with out a WRSS relapse. He needs our support at times like these so he doesn't go on another Slot/WR signing binge.
again with the recruiting thing, as in i know all about it, etc.
i also makes some vague ultimatum about michigan needing 8 wins to satisfy my limp, sad, tiny, bent penis
Since we have a small class, I do not get it either. There is A.J. Jordan and De'Anthony Arnett, who look like better WR prospects, and Ray Hamilton, who looks like a better TE than him.
Got to trust the coaches, but still confusing on why they took him.
Its not his second year of football
It was his first year playing Varsity football, not football in general.
Even actual coaches don't pass judgment like that based on a highlight video. You're just some dude on the internet. Don't expect anyone to take that seriously.
Oh I'm sorry I didn't know there's a policy against mocking dumb predictions. See what I did there?
i will also insult this person and again claim to know more about recruiting then persons that are paid to do so and therefore insult a 17 year old that could pound my acne-ridden face through a cinder block if he choose to do so.
So he's the one that's not a 5'9 white kid, right? And by that I mean he's the one who occasionally gets caught from behind by 5'9 white kids
Great height, below average speed, good hands. Mid-star sort.
Why are we already taking on super sleepers when we only have room for a small class?
Given the coaching staff's track record with sleepers thus far (Vincent Smith, Patrick Omameh), I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on a kid they thought was worth locking up this early.
Let's bring up 2 examples of success when it's too early to cite examples of failure and call it an argument! Also, Vincent Smith was on the borderline of being a 4 star to Rivals and Omameh had an OSU offer.
had an offer from osu a week before signing day. This kid may end up having nice offers later, but for now he is a sleeper. At this point in Omameh's career he was a major sleeper prospect.
Once Omameh grew a ton his senior year, he blew up and both the biggest regional powers offered him. That growth was something people didn't foresee during is junior year, so I don't really know what you're doing with that. My point is not: this kid sucks or we shouldn't have offered this kid. I don't have the football knowledge or the information at hand to say that.
...and yet that's pretty much exactly what you're saying.
No, while acknowledging the limitations of my knowledge I'm saying I don't get it.
And I'm saying the staff has much more information than you, a much better track record than you, and a much better idea what they're looking for in a prospect.
If this kid was worth a February offer to them, that's far more valuable knowledge to me than Guy On Internet (who admits he doesn't know what he's talking about) saying that it's likely this kid doesn't pan out.
Trusting the coaches is fine, but it's not an evaluative method. Why are you blogging if you think that's the extent of available insight for commoners like us?
There is no basis on which to make an evaluative method, aside from a 4-minute highlight video.
It's not that the recruiting sites don't like this kid, it's that they haven't heard of him. I know that's not the most ringing endorsement of the kid, but it's true.
Peopel who have seen the kid play (Michigan's coaches, local newspaper writers, Jim stefani) think he's a good talent.
I'm not trying to say let's start printing the nameplate for his Heisman, I'm just saying that we shouldn't pre-emptively peg him as a non-contributor, either (and I know that's not what you're trying to do, but you rush to defend those who do so on the basis of very little evidence).
I agree with every point here pretty much... how did we get here haha? Well, I'll just add that I'm not perplexed so much because of his lack of offers or where he stands re: rankings as because this class' expected size is small and we got 4 outside WRs in the last class.
something about how the coaching staff can't recruit as well as i can. who knows, it was dumb i apologize for even being here.
the past two years we haven't had a ton of scholarship players, we've been playing too many freshman/sophomore/walkons, and we've gone through two years playing a freshman quarterback in a quarterback intensive system. No coach is going to have startling success with those conditions. You make it sound like Coach Rod has been here for five years. And as for why you should trust "their" judgment, Coach Rod was averaging over 9 wins a year at WVU his last 6 years there. He's a proven coach, this isn't his first rodeo. No one likes the way things have started, but the kind of rhetoric you are putting out should at least wait until year three is in the books, not year two.
Especially if he's a wide receiver.
obviously he isnt the fasted dude in the world but his ball skills and size can't be challenged. I'd say TE maybe...looks pretty physical. Either way I think it's sort of risky...but I trust the judgment of coaches.
doesnt translate to TE. he looks like a tough gritty kid but putting on 60 pounds to be a TE is not a good idea for his speed issue
but I wouldnt be surprised if that number is a little low...koger was about 225 coming out of hs and I'd assume this guy could be around 200-210. I think the TE in RR's offense is more like a flex hybrid type WR/TE...either way I still say the kid has big ten skills w/ MAC speed
ya hes got b10 skills for sure. catching the ball with his hands is a great habit to have.
looks like hes got great hands tho. doesnt use his body to catch the ball, always a plus. also goes up and plucks the ball out of the air. really his best skill. looks like calvin johnson when going up to get the ball. the film doesnt exactly show him running any routes(other than the one deep in) so u cant really evaluate him there. could have deceptive speed.
Stefani has more on him:
Quote from the article:
"On the football field, however, he is an unknown commodity and the definition of a sleeper. This is primarily because the 6-4 split end/defensive back has only played in 2 varsity football games in his first two years of high school, due to a transfer at the end of his freshman year from Cass Tech in Detroit to Seaholm in Birmingham to be closer to his family and first cousin/teammate Richaud Pack (a top-tier hoops recruit). That all said, when the curtain finally does come down on Conway’s HS football career in the fall of 2010, he could wind up being one of the best players in the county, not to mention the state, certain to earn offers to play at the next level."
He's also mentioned as running like a gazelle.
He plays BBall for The Family. I wonder if there is a Brundidge connection here.
I'm not sure why the posters below are so down on him. He looks like a solid fit at outside receiver.
How many more receivers can we take, though?
I don't get it either..sleepers this early with a small 2011 class? With a possbile bowl berth and comeback season coming up we could be back on track with attracting 5 and 4 start blue chippers! Does anyone know why we schedule Junior day in February? Terrible weather to attract southern recruits. Maybe I just don't and it has to be this early. Someone please educate me.
its just that they arent committing this early. obviously the coaching staff knows wat theyre doing with sleepers - someone else already listed some names - so dont worry about it too much. the kid has fantastic hands, he goes up and plucks the ball out of the air(which u cant teach), and he seems to be able to take a shot.
i hate whoever made his recruiting video. it shows him run the same route over and over again and make a play on the ball. repetition < variety. difficult to evaluate so far but im confident with my assessments on the points i mentioned
This isn't necessarily true, 16 players out of Scout's top 100 are already committed. In the 2006 class I think Graham was our first commit, for the 2009 class it was Campbell.
and besides how many of those guys are committed to texas? 3 or 4?majority of texas guys commit early(13 this year a week ago). so 12 or 13/100 are committed. obviously there are some guys who commit early to schools they grow up loving but the vast majority of guys dont commit til later in the year.
already knows that it's going to be a small class(probably 18) and they don't offer kids this early unless they know that they're really, really good. In this case, this kid is really, really good.
Michigan has more than one JR day. This is the first JR day of the year and there will be more in the future.
this was actually the 2nd (and last) junior day for michigan. They have a handful of other events that attract recruits but no other junior day.
What the fuck are you talking about? Michigan has 2 or 3 more junior days this spring.