Jim Minick arrest video released

Submitted by Blueblood2991 on

The Freep released the arrest video of Jim Minick.  I was expecting a lot worse after it was being reported that Jim was "fall down drunk".  A whole lot of nothing until the end of the video when Jim refuses the breathalyzer.  The cop told him if he refused it would result in a civil infraction.  My guess is Jim didn't know the automatic suspension and whatnot that went along with it.

Feel free to delete, as I know this topic has been already been debated a lot.  Figured I'd post incase anyone was interested.

EDIT: As much as I hate to link to the Freep, embed is being goofy. http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2015/07/21/jim-minick-arrest-video-michigan/30468363/

 

Blueblood2991

July 21st, 2015 at 7:53 PM ^

The thread exists so people can make their own opinions based on evidence, and not what the media twists it as.  No one on this blog would ever condone drunk driving.  My intent was more to show the hypocrisy of the Freep.  They set out to drag Minick through the mud by describing him as falling down drunk and belligerent.  Then to try and tarnish his reputation more, they did a FOIA request to publish the video.  The video proved that everything they had reported earlier was not factual.

Again, intent was not to lessen the seriousness of Jim's actions.

CRISPed in the DIAG

July 22nd, 2015 at 11:01 AM ^

I don't think we disagree about your intent, but I wasn't clear about that at all. Sorry.  Let me clarify: I don't see the benefit to anyone by posting this video - regardless of whether it is in your thread or the Freep's so-called reporting.  I'm sick of the tabloid mentality that generates useless FOIA requests.  This guy did something bad, but he's a human being.  And the Freep used to be better than this.

Esterhaus

July 21st, 2015 at 7:43 PM ^

 
The Athletic Department decided upon retention in recognition that, perhaps, a greater good can be achieved by Minick - an authority figure until the incident - counseling at-risk athletes in the future why driving under the influence is so easy to do and yet the potential consequences are severe and unacceptable. 
 
I acknowledge this sounds non sequitur and I'm reaching a bit, however, consider that an athlete who fucks up by driving under the influence but is retained on his/her team cycles out within five years maximum and Minick might be expected to 1) clean up his act without relapse, and 2) remain for a decade or more, counseling student-athletes from a firsthand perspective and using the information he obtains during probation and mandatory classes to make the case and dissuade others from committing offenses. Ultimately this consideration may prove valid.
 
Who among us still believes that Gary Moeller necessarily should have been fired without opportunity to receive counseling and mentor at-risk athletes? Moeller's behavior was worse than Minick's.
 
And if you promote zero-tolerance, which I can understand for the reason specified in my previous post to this thread, please ensure you are willing to apply zero-tolerance to each and every athlete, student, administrator and employee at the University. No  exceptions.

DarkWolverine

July 21st, 2015 at 8:24 PM ^

Many organizations Opt For Zero Tolerance
The reason is the flip side of what you said. Is it now OK for everyone in the AD to be guaranteed a second chance for a very poor decision? Does the tenth player or employee DUI get different treatment when the media frenzy makes it a circus? Did Gibbons deserve a second chance? Which side of that discussion were you on? There is no evidence that the AD is doing anything with Minick as you suggest and rightly so as it should be private.



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M-Dog2020

July 21st, 2015 at 9:15 PM ^

The Freep sucks, always has and always will. /why publish this stuff? The man mad a mistake. The Freep has always had a hard-on for UM its entire history. Digging for anything negative. The Freep sucks. Period.

Honk if Ufer M…

July 22nd, 2015 at 2:06 PM ^

My computer is sick, no sound, didn't watch the silent video, so I don't know what was known when, but if he knew this was the son of the ex sheriff, an ex Marine, works for the football program and is Harbaugh's right hand man, then it's hard to judge his coolness based on this incident.

The test is how he is with everyone and whether and how he plays favorites based on race, sex, class, clothing, condition of car, bumper stickers/politics, or even attitude or perceived "respect" given to the officer, none of which should affect his impartiality, fairness, judgement or action taken.

Cool is not being a petty tyrant giving out harsh punishment or undeserved leeway based on personal tastes, personal gain, personal indignity, or personal or institutional bias.

Cool is being able to distinguish between the letter of the law, the spirit or intent of the law & the common sense and realities of a given situation & know when a stop should be made, when a warning is warranted or when a ticket or arrest is really needed.

Cool is the difference between wanting to help, to serve & protect, or wanting to fuck with, to abuse, to harass, to be on a power trip, to threaten, to assault, to frame or worse.

Cool is the difference between trying to diffuse & trying to provoke or just being a dick.

Cool is the difference between being cool and professional even in the face of anger, accusations or insults, and retaliating like a bully, a vigilanti, or a judge without principals where the application of the law is based on personalities & how deferential the stopee is rather than on legitimate judgements about the illegal actions. Part of the constitutional rights, human rights and civil rights the cop swears to protect are the rights to free and critical speech, bad attitudes, being an asshole, anti social, unfriendly, anti cop, anti authority or anything else a cop doesn't have to like but isn't illegal.

So I don't have enough data to dub this dude cool yet by my criteria. And after all, my criteria is superiyah! (in Rosie Perez-ese)

 

 

Atlanta_Blue

July 22nd, 2015 at 9:32 AM ^

Drunk driving is stupid, stupid, stupid. That said, I think his refusal at the scene was smart if he thought it might buy him enough time to be under the limit when he was tested at the station. But of course, it was not enough time...