I think Michael won a 'ship before Rodman but I'll have to check.
He did, but to say that jordan won those ships all on his own is frankly just not true.
Nobody wins championships on their own. That's why other players are on the court
look at the championships that kobe won when it was shaq's lakers and say they don't really mean that much towards his personal (weak) claim to being the goat.
Cleveland guy and avowed Lebron hater but I think these pictures are interesting.
Here is Lebron as a Senior in High School
Here is Lebron last year
Must be all that super good nutrition he's getting now. No reason for the NBA to start testing for PEDs. Everybody knows only baseball has that problem.
You do know the NBA doesnt test for PEDs right? At all. Take a look at the body shapes, muscle definition and average arm size of the 1993 Dream Team compared to the version on display in 2012 and tell me what conclusions you draw.
Tattos are more popular? :)
That old school 7,8,9 though
wrong, that was him as a 14 year old freshman. Yeah athletes being in great shape, who would of thought that?
I stand corrected on my picture selection - you're right, I chose the wrong year. However I dont think the right year shows much difference from what I originally posted do you?
No - I'm going to argue that the NBA as a whole is baseball circa 1997-98 with players getting huge for no apparent reason and everybody looking the other way. I'm going to argue that Lebron is symbolic of that "good nutrion" muscle mass growth and his body change might have something to do with the lack of any sort of organized PED testing in the NBA.
I admidt to being a Lebron hater and now I have to admidt to at being shitty at Google searching "Lebron James Senior High School" images but for me at least I dont think there's any debating that the average basketball player has changed a TON from what they looked like from about 1950 - 2000 recently.
If this can happen with a student athlete...
Then this can happen with one of the world's best, highest paid athletes...
Without the use of steroids.
Oh of course not, that wouldnt be fair without any proof. Of course there is no way to get any proof given the NBA's non-testing for PEDs.
So (if you're old enough to remember) during the 90s when skinny baseball players like Barry Bonds, Sosa and the imortal Brady Anderson suddenly pumped up and started hitting home runs like never before did you think it was because of "good nuitrion"?
Jesus people I dont for the life of me understand why anybody would think basketball players are NOT taking PEDs given the lack of testing and the tremedous change in the average player's bodytype.
That's a lot different than an 18 year old kid gaining
I like most of your content, but this is arguably your worst comment ever. I, personally, have gained over 60 pounds of muscle since high school (currently 28 years old) and I've never taken anything more than whey protein, and I am no longer a serious athlete by any means.
Most high school kids, especially athletes, are beanpoles. Just the way it goes...
Thanks but trust me I've made far, far worse comments. This is just me on an "anti-PED" soapbox for the NBA. Look, I lift too and have changed my body type but the lack of overall awareness of the NBA's increadibly lax PED policy coupled with the perception that baseball is the only sport with issues just amazes me.
inshapemom? I can't imagine her opinion would be any more naive Just looking at HS and current pictures of Lebron tell us nothing. LMAO
Who cares about the NBA?
The hatred for the best basketball player since Jordan is hilarious. Some of the older people need to just let up the hate and realize LeBron is going to be one of the GOAT.
But it's ridiculous to compare two of the greatest of all time players who come from completely different eras of basketball. Too many rule changes to do that. However, can't wait until technology improves enough to provide an accurate cgi'd game between all the greatest players throughout the nba. Just hope the White Mamba doesn't throw down on everyone too hard
The 5 position is very weak these days..back in MJs day LebRon would have got worked guarding 5s like The Admiral, Hakeem, Ewing..LeBron is great and being the youngest to 23k is nice and all but MJ is still the GOAT...won 6 in a row basically would have been 8 had he not left.
Why would LeBron guard any of those guys? Are you aware that James is not a center? Sure he sometimes guards the 5 once in a blue moon but he doesn't do it very often. If LeBron played in that era he would dominate just as he is now. He's a freak of nature and that wouldn't change no matter what era you speak of. People just love to hate, I get it.
Obviously points aren't anywhere near the whole story but that was the topic of the OP, so here goes:
| age | Chamberlain | James | Abdul-Jabbar | Robertson |
| 19 | 1654 | |||
| 20 | 2175 | |||
| 21 | 2478 | |||
| 22 | 2132 | 2361 | 2165 | |
| 23 | 2707 | 2250 | 2596 | 2432 |
| 24 | 3033 | 2304 | 2822 | 2264 |
| 25 | 4029 | 2258 | 2292 | 2480 |
| 26 | 3586 | 2111 | 2181 | 2279 |
| 27 | 2948 | 1683 | 1949 | 2378 |
| 28 | 2534 | 2036 | 2275 | 2412 |
Of course those losers wasted four years of their lives winning national championships (well, except for O) and getting their B.A.s.
If you're going to make a case for LeBron as the greatest, it's not going to be because of his point totals.