OT: US Futbol advances to Gold Cup Final
I realize the open thread for the game is below this, but the win and the video justify (in my mind) a new post. Dempsey wins it with an assist from Donovan -> what a classy bunch of guys.
Full write-up: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43503719/ns/sports-soccer
I have to say that is some truly horrific defense by the dude who initially caught up to Dempsey.
I would much rather give credit to the amazing vision from Adu to lift his head and find Donovan. Also for Donovan for playing the perfect pass and from Dempsey from staying onside and finsihing.
Fair enough on Adu/Donovan. I don't root for USMNT so I'm not thinking about how rosy what I'm saying is. And from a neutral's perspective, Dempsey's finish was just too easy. Panama had two guys to cover him.
to cover the runners but then got caught in space. Looking at the video, I think Donovan pegs him (if that's what you call it when someone passes the ball between your legs and makes you look like a fool.)
god i hope you're not talking about this definition of pegging because that should NEVER happen on any sports field.
on a serious note though, great win for the u.s.
Yeah, no, definitely not what I had in mind:
is nutmeg, meg for short. So Donovan megged the defender.
The guy who got nutmegged by Donovan isn't the guy I was referring to. Look at the guy who ends up all alone at the top of the goalie box.
The one standing at the top corner of the goalie box is megged (really? nutmeg?!) at 8 seconds. The defender near Donovan lays out but I can't blame him for missing cause he's playing catch-up the entire play.
Regardless, thanks for the vocab lesson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutmeg_%28football%29
Top from goalie's perspective. Like middle.
I'm with you now.
This Saturday, 9:00 p.m. Eastern, at the Rose Bowl.
people were really scared for chicharito to face our centre defensivemen, but they could not be any worse than honduras. honduras is yakkity saxxing when it comes to clearing the ball, and mexico cant take advantage. i still think mexico is the favorite (assuming they win) but they definitly dont look to be the steamroller they were in the earlier rounds.
Disagree with your assessment. So says Victor Bermudez & Osman Chavez,...So far Javier " Chicharito" Hernandez has gone missing in action.
but i dont think it has anything to do with honduras' defense. my point (albeit poorly stated) was that honduras has played poorly on defense but chicarito hasnt done anything to take advantage of it.
I suppose it's one of many types of football. There's what turned into our American football, there's Australian rules football, there's Rugby football, there's Association football. I think calling it soccer is perfectly fine. They call it soccer in Germany, they call it soccer in Japan, they call it soccer in England. Well, they recently started calling it Football in England but half the teams are F.C.s and half the teams are S.C.s The word soccer was invented by an Englishman in the very English way they unnecessarily nickname and abbreviate everything. Soccer is another way of saying association football or asSOC. football. But where does futbol come from?
It's Fußball in German...
Dresdner SC, or SC Frieburg, or Hertha BSC in Germany?
Hertha Berliner Sport-Club, etc.
They all stand for Sport-Club.
Wasn't that changed to Fussball in the Rechtschreibreform of '96?
I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
But where does futbol come from?
It's the Spanish version of the word "football". Among the more general soccer-following public in this country, there's a subculture that has an inferiority complex about being American and will use as many British terms for the sport (e.g., "pitch" instead of field, "kit" instead of uniform) as possible. They prefer to call the sport "football," but when they need to avoid confusion with American football, will use the Spanish spelling. (This has the added bonus of demonstrating that they know one word of a foreign language.)
But I also think there's a genuine preference to avoid confusion.
In this country, most don't care about soccer. However, much of the rest of the world does.
Thus, when speaking about it, why not just use the terms that most soccer fans on the planet use? Americans won't understand, but they also won't care, whereas almost everyone else will understand and care.
and/or you're just habituated to making sweeping generalizations about others.
subculture that has an inferiority complex
demonstrating that they know one word of a foreign language
For the record, I think I used futbol because the mild abuse of language is all but condoned on blogs (see the "Notre Dame Trolled on Jeopardy" post on the MGoBoard.) I may also have seen it used in another post and it stuck in my mind as clever.
If anything here exemplifies an inferiority complex, it's this comment by jmblue.
This whole "inferiority complex" thing is thrown around so haphazardly in these parts.
It seems like a safe default response to anything said that someone doesn't like.
Sorry, double post.
freddy adu sighting!!!
This was the perfect situation for him to come in and make an impact. Playing against a tired, bunkered down, inferior opponent he could come in with his fresh legs and really make an impact. He did his job, and he's come a long way, but he's still got a long way to go to be on a full-strenght US 18-man roster.
That being said, his pass to spring Donovan was as pro as they come and I would love to see him continue to put his head down and work hard to be the best player he can.
It's hard not to root for this kid.
overall a tad lackluster last night. adu was a bright spot....
he made several subtle passes to keep possession, including a lovely short ball to Bradley in space that kept the US attack going. Also, smart playing it into the corners and holding it up on the wing (which is not his natural position). He did have the advantage of fresh legs, but good vision from Freddy and I hope he can continue to grow. 22 years old is not too late, but it is getting close and 2nd division in Turkey is not the level he needs to grow. I think he showed up in Europe behind a wave of hype and they got a small player who is not physical enough for his role in a European midfield. I hope he can continue to develop his skill and make plays and grow, would be great for him and the US.
what time wll the game be on Saturday?
Subject heading says it all. That's according to wikipedia, but that's usually reliable.
9pm est. Live on fox soccer channel (english), univision - spanish.
I'm just glad Dempsey wasn't flagged on an offside call. My initial reaction was he was off by a hair. Granted I haven't really inspected the video of the goal but it was close....
EDIT: after further review, I definitely believe he was offside and for once the soccer god's gave the US a break. phew...
I think Dempsey was onside. The second-to-last defender is just outside the corner of the 6-yd box (his left foot would be on or perhaps just inside that line if you extend it), and at the time of the pass, Dempsey has not crossed into the box, therefore he's onside.
Granted, he is behind the guy who is supposed to be marking him. :D
Ahhh... I looked at it from a different angle. I was watching the mark directly on Dempsey and not the mark on Donovan. If thats what your saying then I believe you are correct. Initially it looked like Dempsey's mark was the second to last defender but now it looks otherwise...
That annoying little guy does not change games, but he does win games. He isn't strong on the ball and he doesn't have great touch or great vision, but he is always (and I mean always) in the right place at the right time. This is all up to him, because he does do a great job hustling to get into the right space. In addition to working hard and making good runs, he is the luckiest person to ever play the game of soccer. When you score goals with your face (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJXcTkbXXMc) you know the soccer God's are smiling kindly upon you.
All in all, I expect a 2-1 victory from Mexico with the second goal going off Chicharito's ass.
Bring on Mexico
Should be a good one Saturday night
Question: Why is the final being played in Pasadena? The organizers knew there was a 75% chance it would be US-Mex, so they waste our home field advantage and give it to the Mexicans? When we go to Mexico the USMNT has to play in that hellhole of Azteca where the fans throw objects on the field, chant "Osama" and boo the national anthem after 9/11, and it's at like 6,000 feet and 100 deg. I don't know about you but they should be playing in a field that HELPS the US at home, not the Mexicans. Play the game somewhere where the stadium won't be 75% Mexican.
<br>-Chet
The US federation doesn't have anything to do with scheduling the location. CONCACAF runs the Gold Cup as the regional championship, and looks for places that will maximize revenue. This always means playing the final in a location where the US will face a substantial crowd disadvantage (which, if we're playing Mexico, is any stadium larger than 25k). Last time it was played in the New Meadowlands and the crowd was something like 90-10 Mexico. This year in the Rose Bowl it will be even more heavily Mexican. US players are used to this, though, and it doesn't pose the same altitude and pollution issues that the Azteca does.
I'm so happy to see Freddy Adu get an opportunity to make an impact on the game. Seems like he has realized that he's not a superstar and is willing to put in the work. Hopefully he can keep the positive momentum from this game going forward
Hey I've missed all the games so far due to work and just signed on here late last night and got the play by play and then looked into some other game results and saw that Onyewu hasn't been playing. Just wondering if anyone on here could let me know whats going on with him. Says that he's on the roster but haven't got any minuets is this due his past patella tendon injury or a new one or just passed on the depth charts?
Does anyone know if this will be on any of the espn networks? If not I'll settle for univision and the announcer who can hold out "gol" for what seems like eternity.