Sam Webb says "26 in the Class"
Just finished listening to the Recruiting Roundup on WTKA, and Sam says the coaches are telling recruits there will be 26 in this class.
It was an extended segment that affirms many of the things we already knew and has some new tidbits including basketball prospects. Once it becomes a podcast it's well worth a listen.
But who's to say that all of the signees of the class of 2011 will stay? A lot of those kids are Rich's kids, and after an up close practice or two, may not like the coachibg staff.
They all knew Hoke was gonna be the new coach before they signed their LOIs (except for EE Greg Brown, who seems to be getting along nicely). I'm not saying it isn't possible, but it also wasn't a bait-and-switch.
But who's to say that all of the signees of the class of 2011 will stay? A lot of those kids are Rich's kids, and after an up close practice or two, may not like the coachibg staff.
Really hard to imagine 8 scholarships freeing up between now and February. I wouldn't name guys who I think are on the way out, but at the same time, I will name Floyd and Mealer as guys probably NOT on that list.
Here's how scholarships free up:
- Fifth years not granted
- Transfers, whether due to depth chart or "buy-in" issues
- Career ending injuries
- Freshmen non-qualifiers or last minute mind-changers (remember Taylor Hill?)
I'm just afraid the staff may know of more than one guy in that last category, otherwise, it just doesn't add up.
but should we also be talking about guys leaving early, who we didn't expect, a la donovan warren?
i have no idea who this might be, but it would be a factor. i guess omameh could have a huge year or demens or even denard, depending on how things go.
I am pretty sure it is soley up to the coaching staff whether a player gets a fifth year or not. I don't think the fact that a player wants to stay in college one more year (for whatever reason that may be) is a factor in whether the coach will extend the fifth year to said player...maybe I'm wrong, but that would be the first I heard anything like that.
aren't a couple of recruits coming in early and won't that help with this numbers business?
this thread is bizarre. How can people follow recruiting enough to be reading this board and not understand that the early enrollee "trick" helps with the annual 25 limit not the overall 85 limit? You would think the fact that its been explained at least twice already in the thread would help too.
As for the folks talking about how they can't see how 8 spots open up bw now and early Feb 2012 (and actually some of those spots don't have to open up until summer of 2012).....I truly can't believe this discussion happens every single year that we don't have an obvious 25 ships open (which is most years).
There's attrition every single year, and sometimes a ton of it. How many kids who we signed in Feb 2010, so kids who haven't even started their true Soph year, are gone already.....8? Granted a bunch of those never even made it to campus but still. Between 5th years not being renewed and kids leaving , you think we can't find 8 spots? At this time last year did you expect Cullen Christian, Vinopal and DJ Williamson to be gone? Spots open up, whether its injury, being homesick, legal troubles, playing time or whatever, there is always meaningful attrition and there always will be.
You could add Austin White to your list.
I'll let the coaches handle the numbers crunching and all that, but this says they want a QB AND RB in this class
If Matt Wile wins the job this year and even connects on 65% of his field goals, you can expect Brendan Gibbons to transfer. And yes, that will open up another scholarship.
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but Tom Beaver had a quick comment a while back about 3 or 4 guys who are still pretty injured and may not be ready for fall camp and may be potential medical hardship/scholarships down the line.