If there is anyone who can afford the financial impact of losing his scholarship and not using NIL, it's Jace. If the team needs to use his scholarship, I suggest talking to Juwan and asking him if he would take care of Jace's tuition etc. so the team can add another scholarship player. There is no reason why Jace can't stay on the team.
Note the page also has an article covering what would Michigan's first NCAA tournament basketball team and, of course, the Israel-Palestine problem. Michigan was also the national champ in football that year.
Vic Heyliger was Michigan's coach from 1944-1957 and his teams won most of Michigan's national championships. He was a successful coach at Illinois before that. I don't know why Illinois doesn't have a team now. He later coached Air Force.
Going to a virtually open admissions university, Dug should have significantly less problems keeping up academically at KSU. I do wonder if he managed to bring his grades up last semester, or if he would have been eligible at Michigan going forward.
Actually, Canham hired Bo. Also, his argument was economic, and he wasn't entirely wrong. There usually isn't enough money for everything. Before Bo was hired, the stadium wasn't nearly full except for MSU and OSU. Ironically, thanks to Canham and Bo filling the stadium and other kinds of deals Canham made, Michigan is basically an exception. Look at this:
Aren't there only 15 men's gymnastics teams left in the country?
Also, I still can't believe my tall, unathletic niece was highly pressured to join Wisconsin's rowing team as a freshman just so it could meet its Title IX requirements.
JJ has a stronger arm than Griese, and probably Brady. Griese couldn't throw hard which made him subject to interceptions. Brady was accurate, but people say not as accurate as Aaron Rodgers. What separated Brady was extreme football intelligence, incredible football memory enabling him to tell which plays worked in past years and might work again, great emotional intelligence to lead his team, and the ability to see and analyze the whole field quickly so he rarely overlooked open receivers, among other things. He was so good that his play convinced Notre Dame that his first pro offensive coordinator, Charlie Weiss, was a good football coach. Think about that. There is no way scouts can tell now if JJ or anyone else has enough of these qualities or, at 21, will develop them. This is why when a quarterback is drafted is meaningless, and amateurs predicting who will be successful is a joke. I think it's funny that the experts who make a living from this had to watch Mr. Irrelevant in the Super Bowl.
Michigan should have had a women's hockey team long ago. Any objections regarding Yost are ridiculous. The women's club team has played at Yost. Where did the players dress? Anyway, Yost itself is obsolete. Its seating capacity for hockey has consistently decreased with each renovation. Over 100 years old, it was built in 1923 under Fielding Yost's supervision and was used for basketball for decades while hockey used the even older 1909 coliseum. Hockey deserves its own new state of the art facility. Can Michigan afford it? Of course. In addition to all the alumni who would contribute, is everyone aware that Michigan's endowment is larger than the endowment of the entire University of California system in the aggregate, including Berkeley, UCLA and seven other major schools? Stop being cheap and spend what is necessary.
I still don't really understand naming a woman Cameron, or anyone else for that matter. From Google: The name Cameron is a boy's name of Scottish origin meaning "crooked nose". Cameron is a popular Scottish name, for both boys and now girls (thanks to Cameron Diaz). With its good-looking, sensitive aura, Cameron has also generated a deluge of variant spellings.
I'm surprised it wasn't higher if he really had two schools competing for him. I read that before he was fired in 2017, Pitino made $7.7 million at Louisville, and there has been plenty of inflation after that.
Where he is drafted really doesn't matter much because the NFL's success rate in evaluating quarterbacks is not very high. Obviously, the GOAT was drafted in the sixth round and Mr. Irrelevant was a quarterback in the super bowl, so what seems to matter most is luck in the right system. Look how many first round quarterbacks fail. How many superstars do you see drafted in the first round in 2021?
Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars, No. 1 overall pick.
Justin Fields, Chicago Bears, No. 11 overall pick.
Mac Jones, New England Patriots, No. 15 overall pick.
Zach Wilson, New York Jets, No. 2 overall pick.
Trey Lance, San Francisco 49'ers, No. 3 overall pick.
The team has basically no players. Anyone coaching next season will either have portal miracles or be vilified. Michigan has to start with someone who can recruit while the team loses. Martelli doesn't seem to be that guy.
If Beilein comes back Michigan will have an excuse to be bad for the next year or two, which it will likely be anyway since it has little talent and couldn't win without a major overhaul even if it could somehow resuscitate John Wooden.
One reason Alford might have come to Michigan: Connections are everything for a coach's career. There are now three head coaches in the pros with significant connections to the Wolverines who he might meet. Maybe he's hoping at some point to join one of them.
I don't know that Michigan needs any running backs Alford recruited, but I'd like to see at least some OSU backs jump off the sinking ship. All they have to do is find another team that matches OSU's NIL.
I wonder if fans would agree right now to accept another year like this with Juwan in exchange for the football team winning the national championship again.
Everything is a lot more expensive now, but Michigan couldn't even fill the stadium before Bo unless the other team was MSU or OSU. Canham was hired in part to increase revenue, something that was a skill of his. In fact, his company, while he was track and field coach, supplemented the income of a number of Michigan coaches, I believe. I don't think the AD now has to worry about money much, except to join the BIG push for more through media rights. It's one of the very few athletic departments that has enough to donate to the university's academic programs. In fact, the whole school is rich, ranking about ninth in endowments. Last I looked the endowment was larger than that of the entire University of California system in the aggregate including UCLA, Cal Berkeley and all eight of the others.
Now that Michigan basketball is not worth thinking about, my new favorite teams to follow this year are the University of Antelope Valley NAIA basketball teams, whose college officially went out of business today, but whose teams continue to the playoffs thanks to private contributions. Imagine having nothing but questions from where to continue your education to where to live going forward, while still playing ball for a defunct school. I support the members of the men's and women's teams (other sports have already discontinued, sometimes mid-season) and wish them the best. I hope wherever they go to continue their education will give them credit for this shortened semester.
Michigan legends like Howard shouldn't be fired. They should be kicked upstairs. One classic case was Bump Elliott, a great running back but a mediocre coach. He knew he wasn't a successful enough coach to meet Michigan's standards (even though he had one Rose Bowl win) and he agreed to be eased out to become associate athletic director under the great Don Canham. He did that for two years and then found his true calling when he became a very good athletic director at Iowa. You never know. Fritz Crisler was a great coach and a mediocre athletic director. Bump was sort of the opposite. Bo Schembechler was hired to replace Bump, and the rest is history. Michigan certainly has more than enough money to do this. It did in1968. Other great Michigan athletes like Harry Kipke and Benny Oosterbaan whose coaching careers did not end with success were also treated very well by Michigan after coaching. That's quite a bit of precedent. It might be part of a larger pattern. One reason Michigan was considered exceptional years ago is how well so many of its athletes did after graduation (who did not have pro careers) and at least some of that had to do with connections made with successful alumni.
Winning everything this past year was a fluke caused largely by experienced players choosing to come back who could have left, as well as the easy nine game exhibition season. That's not likely to happen again in the foreseeable future even if Michigan gets a weak schedule some year unless either someone magnetic like Harbaugh can convince a large part of the team to come back that doesn't need to or Michigan is willing to go all in on NIL to outbid everyone else for the best transfers. Focus and remember the most important thing to do each year: beat OSU. As Harbaugh proved over the last three years, that can be done by having better coaching even if the quarterback, wide receivers and some other players don't match up. I still find it most amazing that a team with journeyman Cade McNamara at quarterback could beat a team with this year's NFL offensive rookie of the year, CJ Stroud, at quarterback. What do you think the score would have been in 2021 if Harbaugh had coached OSU and Ryan Day had coached Michigan? I'm also interested in the all- time winning percentage. Guess which two teams are tied at .734?
Has any college ever had the best football team and worst basketball team in the country the same year? Is Michigan coming the closest to this ever? Just asking.
One thing that's interesting about Wolverine football is that the quarterback and five-star recruits matter less than on other teams. After all, with just a game manager like McNamara, Michigan made it into a four-team playoff for the first time. In convincingly beating Stroud and his all-pro receivers two years in a row with players of lesser talent Michigan showed what great coaching and development can do. Then there was this year. I hope future OSU quarterbacks who don't beat Michigan all hit the portal. Let's see if the overall trend continues. A lot (most) depends on getting the right linemen for both lines, which means ignoring the ratings for these guys, which are meaningless anyway, because star ratings don't predict how much bigger and stronger a high school kid will get after a couple of years. Given a topflight quarterback and a deep team with veterans who were mostly not five-star recruits or high draft choices and who decided to come back for an extra year instead of going pro, you have this year's champions.
My cardiologist had a letter published in the Wall Street Journal about how a nurse was the only person who figured out his infant grandchild was born with hemophilia.
I'll take any team if both of its lines are better than the opponent's lines. That was every game last year. This year it's all about beating OSU. National championship aspirations are a crap shoot. Oh, and at least Sabb didn't go to OSU. Hopefully no-one else of significance does. Aren't OSU and Michigan currently in a virtual tie for the all-time best winning percentage?
So the implication is you guys aren't going to pay attention to Michigan v. OSU anymore. I thought college basketball was over when UCLA won the national championship in what would have been the Fab 5's senior season after I had been so used to players staying four years most of my life. Things change, sometimes drastically, but I bet you'll be back, just as passionate as ever.
I'm still amazed that Michigan is the champ because it had easily the best coaching staff, the best depth, and veteran talent, but did not recruit as well as other top teams. How does that get repeated? The defense will be fine as long as its plays are limited provided the offense is productive. I'm looking forward to what might be available in the portal as long is the coaching staff is set and working well together by then. I have a lot of confidence in the head coach as a coach. We'll see how he is as a team leader. Meanwhile, even though virtually every other Michigan varsity team is mediocre at best, I easily accept that in exchange for what happened in football. In 2024 I feel another win over OSU would be a successful season regardless of what else happens.
Now I'm scared of the portal. I'm also concerned that OSU is spending wildly to get anyone good it can (per the Wall Street Journal). It would be great if the next coach maintains a great relationship with Jim and his brother who can be sources for topflight young assistant coaches.
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Mr. Irrelevant played in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady was no. 199. Commentators and scouts know nothing, NOTHING!
If there is anyone who can afford the financial impact of losing his scholarship and not using NIL, it's Jace. If the team needs to use his scholarship, I suggest talking to Juwan and asking him if he would take care of Jace's tuition etc. so the team can add another scholarship player. There is no reason why Jace can't stay on the team.
Note the page also has an article covering what would Michigan's first NCAA tournament basketball team and, of course, the Israel-Palestine problem. Michigan was also the national champ in football that year.
Vic Heyliger was Michigan's coach from 1944-1957 and his teams won most of Michigan's national championships. He was a successful coach at Illinois before that. I don't know why Illinois doesn't have a team now. He later coached Air Force.
Going to a virtually open admissions university, Dug should have significantly less problems keeping up academically at KSU. I do wonder if he managed to bring his grades up last semester, or if he would have been eligible at Michigan going forward.
Where is an article about assistant coaches? I don't think Dusty is going it alone.
Actually, Canham hired Bo. Also, his argument was economic, and he wasn't entirely wrong. There usually isn't enough money for everything. Before Bo was hired, the stadium wasn't nearly full except for MSU and OSU. Ironically, thanks to Canham and Bo filling the stadium and other kinds of deals Canham made, Michigan is basically an exception. Look at this:
College Gym Graveyard: Eulogies for the Teams We've Lost - College Gym News
Aren't there only 15 men's gymnastics teams left in the country?
Also, I still can't believe my tall, unathletic niece was highly pressured to join Wisconsin's rowing team as a freshman just so it could meet its Title IX requirements.
JJ has a stronger arm than Griese, and probably Brady. Griese couldn't throw hard which made him subject to interceptions. Brady was accurate, but people say not as accurate as Aaron Rodgers. What separated Brady was extreme football intelligence, incredible football memory enabling him to tell which plays worked in past years and might work again, great emotional intelligence to lead his team, and the ability to see and analyze the whole field quickly so he rarely overlooked open receivers, among other things. He was so good that his play convinced Notre Dame that his first pro offensive coordinator, Charlie Weiss, was a good football coach. Think about that. There is no way scouts can tell now if JJ or anyone else has enough of these qualities or, at 21, will develop them. This is why when a quarterback is drafted is meaningless, and amateurs predicting who will be successful is a joke. I think it's funny that the experts who make a living from this had to watch Mr. Irrelevant in the Super Bowl.
I believe Eli Manning's record in the pros is 116 W, 116 L. It's lucky for the Giants he got hot for two super bowl runs.
Right. They don't work at all. They should be taxed.
You would need a domed stadium for that.
Michigan should have had a women's hockey team long ago. Any objections regarding Yost are ridiculous. The women's club team has played at Yost. Where did the players dress? Anyway, Yost itself is obsolete. Its seating capacity for hockey has consistently decreased with each renovation. Over 100 years old, it was built in 1923 under Fielding Yost's supervision and was used for basketball for decades while hockey used the even older 1909 coliseum. Hockey deserves its own new state of the art facility. Can Michigan afford it? Of course. In addition to all the alumni who would contribute, is everyone aware that Michigan's endowment is larger than the endowment of the entire University of California system in the aggregate, including Berkeley, UCLA and seven other major schools? Stop being cheap and spend what is necessary.
I still don't really understand naming a woman Cameron, or anyone else for that matter. From Google: The name Cameron is a boy's name of Scottish origin meaning "crooked nose". Cameron is a popular Scottish name, for both boys and now girls (thanks to Cameron Diaz). With its good-looking, sensitive aura, Cameron has also generated a deluge of variant spellings.
Louisville's reputation is stuck on cheater. Since Pitino has somehow rehabilitated himself at St. Johns, Louisville might as well hire him again.
How many of the top four quarterback taken in the draft will be starters three years from now? I think maybe two.
I'm surprised it wasn't higher if he really had two schools competing for him. I read that before he was fired in 2017, Pitino made $7.7 million at Louisville, and there has been plenty of inflation after that.
Where he is drafted really doesn't matter much because the NFL's success rate in evaluating quarterbacks is not very high. Obviously, the GOAT was drafted in the sixth round and Mr. Irrelevant was a quarterback in the super bowl, so what seems to matter most is luck in the right system. Look how many first round quarterbacks fail. How many superstars do you see drafted in the first round in 2021?
Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville Jaguars, No. 1 overall pick.
Justin Fields, Chicago Bears, No. 11 overall pick.
Mac Jones, New England Patriots, No. 15 overall pick.
Zach Wilson, New York Jets, No. 2 overall pick.
Trey Lance, San Francisco 49'ers, No. 3 overall pick.
The team has basically no players. Anyone coaching next season will either have portal miracles or be vilified. Michigan has to start with someone who can recruit while the team loses. Martelli doesn't seem to be that guy.
How long will this take? Hopefully Michigan won't have to play walk-ons next season.
What coach is working with the defensive line?
It's particularly amazing since he comes off the bench so often, particularly when the rest of his team is healthy.
I still think he should have been kicked upstairs.
I'm sure Beilein agrees with you.
OK, new AD. Who do you like for the next head coach? You better be right to avoid being fired soon.
If Beilein comes back Michigan will have an excuse to be bad for the next year or two, which it will likely be anyway since it has little talent and couldn't win without a major overhaul even if it could somehow resuscitate John Wooden.
I still think they should have kicked him upstairs, given his long time allegiance to Michigan.
Now Michigan really finds out all it needs to know about its athletic director. What is the process to hire a new coach and who will it be?
One reason Alford might have come to Michigan: Connections are everything for a coach's career. There are now three head coaches in the pros with significant connections to the Wolverines who he might meet. Maybe he's hoping at some point to join one of them.
I don't know that Michigan needs any running backs Alford recruited, but I'd like to see at least some OSU backs jump off the sinking ship. All they have to do is find another team that matches OSU's NIL.
I wonder if fans would agree right now to accept another year like this with Juwan in exchange for the football team winning the national championship again.
Everything is a lot more expensive now, but Michigan couldn't even fill the stadium before Bo unless the other team was MSU or OSU. Canham was hired in part to increase revenue, something that was a skill of his. In fact, his company, while he was track and field coach, supplemented the income of a number of Michigan coaches, I believe. I don't think the AD now has to worry about money much, except to join the BIG push for more through media rights. It's one of the very few athletic departments that has enough to donate to the university's academic programs. In fact, the whole school is rich, ranking about ninth in endowments. Last I looked the endowment was larger than that of the entire University of California system in the aggregate including UCLA, Cal Berkeley and all eight of the others.
Now that Michigan basketball is not worth thinking about, my new favorite teams to follow this year are the University of Antelope Valley NAIA basketball teams, whose college officially went out of business today, but whose teams continue to the playoffs thanks to private contributions. Imagine having nothing but questions from where to continue your education to where to live going forward, while still playing ball for a defunct school. I support the members of the men's and women's teams (other sports have already discontinued, sometimes mid-season) and wish them the best. I hope wherever they go to continue their education will give them credit for this shortened semester.
Michigan legends like Howard shouldn't be fired. They should be kicked upstairs. One classic case was Bump Elliott, a great running back but a mediocre coach. He knew he wasn't a successful enough coach to meet Michigan's standards (even though he had one Rose Bowl win) and he agreed to be eased out to become associate athletic director under the great Don Canham. He did that for two years and then found his true calling when he became a very good athletic director at Iowa. You never know. Fritz Crisler was a great coach and a mediocre athletic director. Bump was sort of the opposite. Bo Schembechler was hired to replace Bump, and the rest is history. Michigan certainly has more than enough money to do this. It did in1968. Other great Michigan athletes like Harry Kipke and Benny Oosterbaan whose coaching careers did not end with success were also treated very well by Michigan after coaching. That's quite a bit of precedent. It might be part of a larger pattern. One reason Michigan was considered exceptional years ago is how well so many of its athletes did after graduation (who did not have pro careers) and at least some of that had to do with connections made with successful alumni.
I'm still trying to figure out how MSU went from terrible to really good in the same amount of time it took for Michigan to go from great to mediocre.
Winning everything this past year was a fluke caused largely by experienced players choosing to come back who could have left, as well as the easy nine game exhibition season. That's not likely to happen again in the foreseeable future even if Michigan gets a weak schedule some year unless either someone magnetic like Harbaugh can convince a large part of the team to come back that doesn't need to or Michigan is willing to go all in on NIL to outbid everyone else for the best transfers. Focus and remember the most important thing to do each year: beat OSU. As Harbaugh proved over the last three years, that can be done by having better coaching even if the quarterback, wide receivers and some other players don't match up. I still find it most amazing that a team with journeyman Cade McNamara at quarterback could beat a team with this year's NFL offensive rookie of the year, CJ Stroud, at quarterback. What do you think the score would have been in 2021 if Harbaugh had coached OSU and Ryan Day had coached Michigan? I'm also interested in the all- time winning percentage. Guess which two teams are tied at .734?
If Howard isn't fired, would you blame Manuel more for keeping Howard, or Ono more for keeping Manuel?
Cazzie and the late Bill Buntin were the core of Michigan's first great teams.
Has any college ever had the best football team and worst basketball team in the country the same year? Is Michigan coming the closest to this ever? Just asking.
One thing that's interesting about Wolverine football is that the quarterback and five-star recruits matter less than on other teams. After all, with just a game manager like McNamara, Michigan made it into a four-team playoff for the first time. In convincingly beating Stroud and his all-pro receivers two years in a row with players of lesser talent Michigan showed what great coaching and development can do. Then there was this year. I hope future OSU quarterbacks who don't beat Michigan all hit the portal. Let's see if the overall trend continues. A lot (most) depends on getting the right linemen for both lines, which means ignoring the ratings for these guys, which are meaningless anyway, because star ratings don't predict how much bigger and stronger a high school kid will get after a couple of years. Given a topflight quarterback and a deep team with veterans who were mostly not five-star recruits or high draft choices and who decided to come back for an extra year instead of going pro, you have this year's champions.
I wonder if he throws as well as Donovan Edwards. I'd like to see the flanker throwing a pass on an end around or a reverse.
My cardiologist had a letter published in the Wall Street Journal about how a nurse was the only person who figured out his infant grandchild was born with hemophilia.
I'll take any team if both of its lines are better than the opponent's lines. That was every game last year. This year it's all about beating OSU. National championship aspirations are a crap shoot. Oh, and at least Sabb didn't go to OSU. Hopefully no-one else of significance does. Aren't OSU and Michigan currently in a virtual tie for the all-time best winning percentage?
So the implication is you guys aren't going to pay attention to Michigan v. OSU anymore. I thought college basketball was over when UCLA won the national championship in what would have been the Fab 5's senior season after I had been so used to players staying four years most of my life. Things change, sometimes drastically, but I bet you'll be back, just as passionate as ever.
I'm still amazed that Michigan is the champ because it had easily the best coaching staff, the best depth, and veteran talent, but did not recruit as well as other top teams. How does that get repeated? The defense will be fine as long as its plays are limited provided the offense is productive. I'm looking forward to what might be available in the portal as long is the coaching staff is set and working well together by then. I have a lot of confidence in the head coach as a coach. We'll see how he is as a team leader. Meanwhile, even though virtually every other Michigan varsity team is mediocre at best, I easily accept that in exchange for what happened in football. In 2024 I feel another win over OSU would be a successful season regardless of what else happens.
The only defensive coach who may be as good or better than Minter is Belichick.
Ever is a long time--certainly not by winning percentage.
Who said the O would be better than the D when the D line was better than the O line in preseason practice?
Now I'm scared of the portal. I'm also concerned that OSU is spending wildly to get anyone good it can (per the Wall Street Journal). It would be great if the next coach maintains a great relationship with Jim and his brother who can be sources for topflight young assistant coaches.
Did you see the article about why Tennessee is worried Harbaugh will leave and then Alabama will load up on Michigan players?
Alabama has lost 29. Washington has lost 23. Arizona has lost 21.