OT: [Soccer] US vs. Slovenia

Submitted by maizenbluedevil on November 15th, 2011 at 12:14 PM

US vs. Slovenia right now (Noon EST) in a World Cup re-match.  This will be an interesting game because it's one we really should win.  The commentators are talking in the pre-game right now and really pissed that the US hasn't looked any better under Klinnsmann so far.

It's streaming online on ESPN3.com, and on TV, I think, on ESPN2.

I don't have a line-up but I'll post one if I can find it.

Comments

maizenbluedevil

November 15th, 2011 at 12:24 PM ^

A couple notes:

- US in red jerseys

- Crap weather: very cold and foggy.

- US in a 4-4-2.

- US Starters: Howard, Cherundolo, Goodson, Bocanegra, Chandler, Beckerman, Bradley, Johnson, Dempsey, Buddle, Altidore.

mgolax

November 15th, 2011 at 1:22 PM ^

Any soccer tacticians out there?  Is the 4-4-2 a major change for Klinsmann?  From my laymen prospective, we seem to be opening up the backline a bit in exchange for more push on offense.

 

Any analysis of Chandler/Goodson's play?  Another chance for Slovenia there...

Needs

November 15th, 2011 at 1:39 PM ^

He played a lot of 4-4-2 when he coached Germany. Teams have moved away from it because with most teams now playing 4-5-1 / 4-2-3-1, it's easy to get overrun in midfield. But Altidore plays much better with someone else up high, so it seems to be worth it for a US team that's struggled to create offense.

Not really sure what's going on with the US defense right now. They're just not winning any balls.

ken725

November 15th, 2011 at 1:46 PM ^

I think the 4-4-2 is our best formation.  Sometimes it takes more of a 4-2-2-2 shape when both Donovan and Dempsey are on the pitch.  This is the most effective especially when our fullback are getting good width down the flanks when Donovan and Dempsey cut in. 

dlcase1708

November 15th, 2011 at 1:42 PM ^

I honestly was a bit surprised with Buddle's finish. I'm not going to lie, I haven't been able to watch much second division German soccer this season, but he seems to be in a bit of better form than the last time we saw him in an American jersey.

ypsituckyboy

November 15th, 2011 at 1:47 PM ^

Is it just me, or is it funny how Americans automatically adopt British-speak when talking about soccer i.e. "better form." You'd never hear anyone say "Martavious Odoms looks to be in much better form than earlier in the season." You'd just say he's playing better.

Anyways, I'll let you guys put your EPL scarves back on and watch the footie match.

dlcase1708

November 15th, 2011 at 2:55 PM ^

You definitely are correct, I know I adopt a more British way of saying things when discussing soccer. I also use "side" rather than "team" when discussing the, well, side. Pitch instead of field, match instead of games. I'm fairly certain it's because I watch more EPL than anything else.

Rabbit21

November 15th, 2011 at 4:25 PM ^

While as a Tottenham Hotspur fan I am heartbroken that he lost form so completely, I am really glad Keano is doing well in MLS.  That guy is amazing, if you haven;t seen his goal against Blackburn(and American keep Brad Friedel) in the 2005/2006 season you need to do so.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv27IhvOqm8  Go to 4:45 in the video and enjoy.

ken725

November 15th, 2011 at 4:50 PM ^

I'm really glad that he came to the MLS.  I was under the impression that he was really old, but he is still only 31.  I think this helps get rid of the notion that the MLS is a retirement league.  I know that the in the MLS is not up to par with the Euro leagues, but I still love watching the MLS.

Also Keane has one of the best celebrations.  I love the finger guns. 

Volverine

November 15th, 2011 at 1:53 PM ^

Brian McBride.

He was the leading goal scorer for the US until Landon Donovan passed him up (while playing in more games, I might add). Brian was a pure scorer, great in the air, and tough through pain.

I'm also biased because he's from my hometown and was my assistant coach while he was recovering from a blood clot he had in his leg. But seriously, he was a monster and played on worse teams than Landon did. In WC'98, the US only scored one goal. Guess who scored it?

turtleboy

November 15th, 2011 at 2:00 PM ^

Another international friendly, another tactical formation. Looking better, making strides, but the midfield still needs to work on the time of possession. Spending too much time on our half of the field.

smwilliams

November 15th, 2011 at 2:24 PM ^

Whether it was simply the fact he was the old coach's son and perhaps Jurgen thought some time away to transition was appropriate, Bradley is definitely our best box-to-box type guy.

He wins balls on defense and pushes the attack going forward. I liked the diamond set-up in the midfield and wonder if this is what we see in big matches...

---------------Altidore---------------Donovan-----------------

-------------------------Dempsey--------------------------------

Shea----------------------------------------------------Johnson

-------------------------Bradley------------------------------------

Chandler------Bocanegra------Goodson----Cherundolo

 

We desperately need some younger guys on the back line because it's no guarantee Cherundolo and Bocanegra will be good in 2014 and I'd like to see us work Stuie Holden in somewhere as well.

ken725

November 15th, 2011 at 3:31 PM ^

I think he will get his shot. He was just named the MLS defender of the year and named to the MLS best-11 in both 2010 and 2011.

He has a big game this Sunday for the MLS Cup Championship.  One of the reasons why Donovan asked to be left off the roster for the European friendlies. 

dlcase1708

November 15th, 2011 at 2:57 PM ^

I'm sincerely hoping that Tim Ream can make the strides necessary between now and 2014 World Cup to become a starting center back. He's young and makes quick, smart passes, and I believe and hope he will be a better option than Goodson or Boca.

ken725

November 15th, 2011 at 3:17 PM ^

I'm not shocked at all. Jurgen has basically said that players need to be getting regular playing time to be called up.  During the first round of international friendlies he was still looking for a club.  Now he is getting regualr playing time with Verona, hence his inclusion into the lineup.