Orangebloods.com on Sportscenter Says 6 to PAC 10 is a Done Deal - Big XII All But Dead
On Sportscenter right now, Chip Brown of orangebloods.com says Texas President told their coaches that he did everything he could to keep the Big XII together and was unsuccessful. Says all six offered by the PAC 10 will go to the PAC 10.
There will be a vote to dissolve the Big XII and nine votes are needed. Someone check me on the nine number.
To the Pac 10:
Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado
To the Big 10:
Nebraska, Mizzou*
Out to Pasture:
Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor
*Mizzou may not be a Big 10 team as per Orangebloods
I'm assuming this means their name is up for grabs?
also tomorrow on SP they are gonna talk about USC being put on probation with maybe a bowl ban.
Well, today has been anything but boring.
Hate to lose Texas. Damn.
Knew it was a long shot, kind of like hitting the lotto... but a guy can dream.
Sucks that the Big Ten pushes the issue and the PAC 10 swoops in for the prize.
The prize was Texas, and Texas makes more sense in the Big Ten than in the Pac 10. Better academics, better athletics, and yes, less travel distance (I can't find the article at the moment). Plus, now Texas is relegated to at least 4 Pacific time zone games a year, not helping their national exposure. Instead of moving to the Big 10, which is already in their time zone, they go to a conference with only two schools in a neighboring time zone (but that's for less than half the season), and most of the teams in states two time zones away.
How the B10 didn't push for Texas and not get it is upsetting. They should have revised plans once the little Pac 10 started their ludicrous offer of six Big 12 teams.
Frustrating! I really wanted to road trip to Austin, or see the Longhorns come to Ann Arbor (particularly a certain segment of their student body).
On Sportscenter right now, Chip Brown of orangebloods.com says Texas President told their coaches that he did everything he could to keep the Big XII together and was unsuccessful.It's not our fault we're running to greener pastures, blame the other guys!!!!
Texas will be the fish that got away if this is true...why would Texas make the move so suddenly?
Because I don't like them and they know it. No, seriously, it's true.
...revenue from the P10 as the B10, then it makes sense they'd choose the P10 to gain access to the most fertile recruiting ground in the country: California. Texas is a close 2nd and then Florida. Ohio and Pennsylvania are nice, but those states are losing population (and therefore football talent, not to mention TV ratings).
...has this story up. It hasn't been updated with the info passed by Chip Brown on Sportscenter.
[Edit: now it's been updated.]
Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds and president Williams Powers gathered UT coaches today at 2 p.m. CT to tell them they did everything they could to save the Big 12 but that they were unsuccessful.
Just as Orangebloods.com was first to report last Thursday, the Pac-10 will invite Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Colorado.
And it appears those invitations will be accepted.
According to sources, Colorado will also opt out of the Big 12 and accept an invitation to the Pac-10.
A legislative source with knowledge of Texas A&M said officials from A&M and Texas will meet on Thursday to discuss all the goings on and to make sure they are on the same page if the Big 12 falls apart.
According to sources, A&M and Oklahoma both have had conversations with the SEC. A&M's conversations with the SEC may have been to appease A&M regent Gene Stallings, who won a national title as coach at Alabama and would love to see the Aggies in the SEC.
But Orangebloods.com has learned Gov. Rick Perry, a diehard Aggie, will work to make sure Texas and Texas A&M stay together.
Other sources have said that Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State will do whatever Texas and A&M are doing.
Well this sucks (if true)...honestly, I want the Big Ten to just add one team, but adding Texas (which ostensibly would've meant adding several more) would've been awesome for the conference. I'm excited for Michigan-Nebraska (again, assuming that is true), but road trips to Austin would've been an experience to say the least.
...and tells us nothing. Useless.
What do you expect from a Buckeye?
would have jumped to the B10, and Nebraska. There is no way a Texan wants to travel or go to California for FB games unless it is a BCS bowl. Or going from Austin to Seattle for basketball games? That is crazy? Or Texas playing AZ or ASU each year?? What a joke. I think the B12 really dropped the ball on this. They should have shared profits $ equally, then Neb would have stayed. Now, it's to late, so F'em.
Yeah, because it's so much closer for Texas to go to Happy Valley
Except for USC, the Pac10 is not football country, just look at their revenues
The bigger issue is playing a night game in Seattle that starts at 8 pm. The players in Texas have there internal clocks at 10 pm by the time that game starts, and 1 AM by the time it ends.
Time is an issue because college kids never stay up past midnight, right?
Except for the most important thing: share revenue equally and put the Texas muscle behind a Big 10-style TV network.
...interview is being replayed on Sportscenter.
- Nebraska feels the Big Ten is a better fit for them than the Big XII athletically and academically.
- Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado to the Pac-10.
- Texas and Texas A&M will meet Thu to discuss the way ahead and to keep them in the same conference. Governor Perry will fight to keep the schools together. Gene Stallings, a TAMU Regent is pushing the SEC.
- Nine members must vote to dissolve the conference, otherwise there could be buyout penalties
I don't see nine teams voting to dissolve the conference. That could be alot of coin the be split among the four (?) teams who are left behind. Rumors are that the penalties are 50-100% of the annual payout, depending on the amount of notice given. Even at 50%, its in the neighborhood of $50 million.
If nine teams do not vote yay for explosion yet the schools mentioned above still leave, who gets the crazy amount of money forked over? The remaining institutions?
"Texas and Texas A&M will meet Thu to discuss the way ahead and to keep them in the same conference. Governor Perry will fight to keep the schools together. Gene Stallings, a TAMU Regent is pushing the SEC."
PERFECT! Jim Delany is so unbelieveable fucking smart. Notice, during the whole Baylor-TT Pac10 debacle, we heard NOTHING from the UT/aTm politicians. Now, Governor Perry, immensely popular and influential, is publicly saying that keeping UT and aTM is a fighting priority.
Guess what happens next? The PAC-10 offer falls apart due to Stanford, or the OK schools to the SEC (my money is on Stanford telling people to fuck off). Then the only place the Texas schools can be together is in the Big10.
hats off Jim. Hats fucking off!
except that the Pac-10 presidents already voted to let the commissioner extend invitations without consulting with them again. Stanford has presumably already signed off.
TX pulls the plug at the last minute, blaming TX political pressure because P10 will not take Baylor over CO. B12 adds teams to replace the ones that leave, changes the TV revenue formula to favor TX even more than it does now and TX starts its own network on the side just like it always has wanted to do. P10 settles for CO and Utah and starts its own BTN-style network.
Signed
ISU
There will be three pretty damn good basketball programs out there though. If the MWC could take what remains of the Big 12 and throw in BSU, they would have a stellar conference in both big time sports. That's my hope anyway.
...on Sportscenter says:
- If Big Ten stays at 12, they get conf championship and a more manageable schedule so don't assume they're going to continue on to 16
- KU would be a big draw for a power conference just because of its basketball program. They will find a home.
I have to say, after hearing Andy Katz talk I think he has no idea what he is talking about. His 'predictions' were based on what he thought made the most sense for the conferences. His reasoning for Kansas finding a home is that "No one would leave Duke out to dry if they were in the same situation". I truly believe the Big 10 offered Nebraska in a move to get at ND, and possibly even Texas.
Yeah, I think he's talking out of his ass.
This Kansas shit makes me laugh. Like, UNLV was a basketball powerhouse and they were in the WAC or something. Conference USA was arguably one of the best basketball conferences in the country before the Big East raided it. What the fuck is the big deal about being in a BCS level conference for KU?
....says USC should expect to vacate two seasons, at least one year without a bowl maybe two. USC will appeal. Reggie Bush's Heisman could be recalled, but Heisman Trust wants to avoid that at all costs.
The Heisman Trust decides the trophy, not hte NCAA. They don't have to recall shit if they don't want to.
...that very well. What Schad said was that the Heisman Trust was ready to meet to discuss their options if the NCAA voids those two seasons, but they want to avoid recalling the award at all costs.
I don't get why Notre Dame won't just put aside their pride. Join the Big Ten and make more money.
Notre Dame doesn't need money. It's literally not about the money with them.
it's still about the money.
Not when it's about entitlement.
It's always about the money.