Michigan Football Official (MGoBlue) Ticket Sales/Pricing Structure

Submitted by SpikeFan2016 on

I have been watching our official ticket sales on MGoBlue.com since single tickets went on sale to the general public a little over a month ago and a few things have stuck out as odd and/or noteworthy to me that I figured I may as well update the board with during a week of little news (due to the submarine effect #TheHarbaughDifference). 

*Note: I will refer to "only scattered single seats remain" as sellouts. I know they are technically different, but just marginally so and only rarely will people purchase one seat alone at a football game. Pricing comments/criticisms only apply to single game tickets, not season tickets.

First of all, one of the very few errors Hackett may be charged with at this time is overpricing the BYU game. The floor price for this game is $80 (plus a $4 service fee). I am not sure why, but the BYU game was set as more expensive than UNLV ($55), Rutgers ($65), and a homecoming game vs. Northwestern ($75). The fact that these three games are nearly sold out (yes, even UNLV is approaching sell out status), but BYU still has over 3,000 tickets for sale (that have been stagnant for weeks) clearly shows that Hackett overestimated fan enthusiasm for this opponent. The AD may have to gift away large quantities of these seats as current endzone stubhub prices are about $70 and, unfortunately, I think it's more likely Stubhub prices will fall as the game approaches rather than rise (unless we handily beat Utah and steamroll OSU (NTOSU) and UNLV, but even then they may just stay constant). That said, if you're looking for low row tickets to this game (Section 33) MGoBlue is still your best bet!

 

Secondly, there is a mystery to be solved. On July 13th, Michigan Football tweeted that only scattered single seats remained for Oregon State, Northwestern and Rutgers. Link: https://twitter.com/umichfootball/status/620596929748058114. For the next few weeks indeed MGoBlue listed the games as "Only Single Tickets Available" and I had checked the map to confirm that. However, suddenly, without any announcement from U of M, there are now limited tickets available to these three games, throughout the stadium, that are not single seats. Initially, I figured that this must be due to visiting fans not claiming all of their university alotted tickets. However, these tickets are not concentrated in the visiting sections. Does anyone know what could be the possible reason for this?

 

General ticketing issues: I think that Hackett overpriced single ticket endzone seats (for games other than OSU and MSU) and underpriced single ticket sideline seats (for all games). The athletic department definitely should be charging more than $115 for 50 yard line tickets to the Ohio State game (stubhub market value for these is about $400 a ticket).  That enormous gap between face and market value encourages people to buy tickets without any intent of going and when they flip these tickets they end up disproportionately in the hands of our opponents.

On the other hand, endzone single tickets are much too high for most games. Consider this startling example: It was cheaper this year to buy a ticket in Row 1 Section 1, next to the tunnel on the 50 yard line, against UNLV ($75) than it was to buy a ticket in Row 96 of the endzone against BYU ($80). That is blatantly bad pricing.

 

I think that in the future, row levels should matter for single game tickets (currently row 1 is the same price as row 96). The problem with having undervalued low row tickets and overvalued high row tickets is that the AD misses out on revenue from the low rows while the high row endzone tickets fail to sell as the same tickets are often cheaper on stubhub.

Lastly, many of these issues would be resolved if student ticket sales rebounded to normal levels (yes, even with Harbaugh they are still lower than the past standard). It looks like about 90% of unsold single tickets are in Sections 32 and 33, historically part of the student section. The AD doesn't give regular season ticket holders seats in these sections to hold room for students, but when the students don't buy them, they become difficult to sell as they are in a part of the stadium with lower demand (and currently overpriced). The 2/3rds of section 33 that are not the student section is almost entirely unsold for the BYU game (even as low as row 20) and without giving away tickets it will be an unsightly gap of unfilled bleachers on gameday. 

 

All that said, we are still incredibly lucky to routinely fill the largest stadium in the country (aka these aren't the worst problems to have). 

Let me know your thoughts!

 

Yo_Blue

August 11th, 2015 at 7:31 AM ^

New tickets suddenly available are usually the returns from the visiting school.  I'm not sure of the timing but if I had to guess, I would think they are returns.

SpikeFan2016

August 10th, 2015 at 3:53 PM ^

Dynamic pricing has nothing to do with sections/rows. 

 

Dynamic pricing means that the AD will adjust ticket prices over time, whereas now they have a set rate that they will not alter up or down depending on demand.

 

And yes, section still has something to do with it. Rows don't. (And I argue they should). 

BJNavarre

August 10th, 2015 at 3:54 PM ^

The BYU game is not overpriced. It is selling for about as much as the Northwestern game on stubhub, and significantly more than the UNLV game. The OP is overlooking the Go Blue ticket package, which put the UNLV game in a tier with 1 other game, while the BYU game was in a tier with 2 other games (meaning the UNLV game was more likely to be included in a purchased ticket package). Plus, they have a family ticket promotion for the UNLV game, which probably generates a few additional sales as well.

The sideline vs end zone pricing. Doesn't really matter. Almost all sideline seats are sold as season tickets. Plus, what's the difference in the cost of the seat license? 100s or 1000s of dollars.

Really, when you sellout 90+% of the stadium, individual game pricing doesn't really matter, the total cost of season tickets does.

SpikeFan2016

August 10th, 2015 at 3:56 PM ^

The difference is that the Northwestern game is essentially sold out and the UNLV game is almost sold out. I'm not saying BYU should be priced equal to UNLV. 

Michigan has sold the least amount of tickets to BYU, by a few thousand, compared to any other game. 

BJNavarre

August 10th, 2015 at 3:59 PM ^

A few thousand seats left in August is nothing. As long as they look decent, it will sellout.

The BYU game is selling for 75% more than the UNLV game on stubhub. The minimum BYU ticket price on stubhub is $70, which is barely undercutting the $80 box office price. Good sign it will sellout.

SpikeFan2016

August 10th, 2015 at 4:03 PM ^

The comparison between UNLV and BYU on stubhub doesn't matter in terms of this argument.

 

I'm not arguing that UNLV should be equal to BYU, I'm just saying that when Michigan almost immediately sells out tickets to Northwestern and Rutgers, and has sold thousands more to UNLV than to BYU, the latter clearly shouldn't have been priced as high (otherwise it too would have sold fast). 

 

I really hope it does sell out, but I have been watching these tickets and almost no BYU tickets have moved in the past month, which is not a good sign. The UNLV tickets, in the same time frame, are selling a few rows a week. Again, I don't care about how many tickets move on Stubhub, I just would like Michigan to not have to give away an entire section of seats again. 

SpikeFan2016

August 10th, 2015 at 4:14 PM ^

Because they are still for sale to the general public from the official University of Michigan website. Which means, no, they are not merely trying to dump the tickets on corporate sponsors.

 

You're not grasping what I'm talking about. I am talking about the University of Michigan being able to sell all of its tickets. I don't care who is selling them for the second time. Before those tickets get to Stubhub they are sold by Michigan. 

 

Michigan is advertising heavily only for the BYU game on websites and the East Stadium video board because unlike the other six games on the schedule, they have not been able to sell BYU tickets as easily. 

 

Check it out with your own eyes if you'd like: http://ev8.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventInfo?ticketCode=GS%3AUM%3AF15%3AF04%3A&linkID=umichse&shopperContext=&pc=&caller=&appCode=&groupCode=F&cgc=#__utma=105728220.682690274.1380654382.1439037988.1439229731.55&__utmb=105728220.4.10.1439229731&__utmc=105728220&__utmx=-&__utmz=105728220.1439229731.55.53.utmcsr=google|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=157998778

BJNavarre

August 10th, 2015 at 4:31 PM ^

I am grasping exactly what you're talking about. 

UNLV is selling for $40 on stubhub, that's 27.3% less than face value.

Rutgers is selling for $43 on stubhub, that's 33.8% less than face value.

BYU is selling for $70 on stubhub, that's 12.5% less than face value.

The BYU game is almost sold out. There's only single tickets in all sections but 2. The pricing is fine. You are grasping at straws.

SpikeFan2016

August 10th, 2015 at 4:52 PM ^

You say there are only single tickets in all sections but 2? (presumably 32 and 33).

I'm not sure you know how to navigate our ticketing website. In fact, excluding single seats, there are tickets available in Sections 3, 12, 14, 15, 16, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, and 42. Granted, most don't have an abundance on sale, but the hundreds available in each of 32, 33, and 34 provide the bulk. 

 

I sincerely hope you're right about them selling out.

However, if you think it's not significant that a November Rutgers game went to single seats in 4 days and in almost 6 weeks a September BYU game still has thousands of tickets for sale, despite being a better opponent earlier in the season, I don't know what to say.  

 

 

 

 

boliver46

August 10th, 2015 at 3:56 PM ^

You're saying my Endzone, Row 2 seats for BYU are overpriced?

Dammit.

/s (I'll enjoy them regardless)

ThadMattasagoblin

August 10th, 2015 at 4:47 PM ^

I'm in Kalamazoo this summer and we definitely have more Michigan people than MSU. Really, the only place I've been in the state where we are in the minority is Lansing. The east side of the state has to be at least 75 percent Michigan fans.

umbig11

August 10th, 2015 at 5:44 PM ^

Hacket had nothing to do with setting the ticket price. Brandon's watch wrote the contract and payout to BYU. In order for UM to make profit plus pay BYU for the one time appearance had everything to do with the last regime and very little to do with AD Hackett.

Maize in Cincy

August 10th, 2015 at 6:00 PM ^

BYU will easily sell out. They priced it higher because it is in a good weather month. There will be plenty of people adding that game to their plans over the next few weeks. They priced the Rutgers game low because they don't want to risk a bad start the the year and crappy weather resulting in a bunch of empty seats. With the 2 big games on the schedule they know Rutgers won't be a game people look to attend. Also you mention 50yrd line seats to OSU at $115. Those aren't available without a big time donation, so that's not the real face value.

Michigan4Life

August 10th, 2015 at 6:00 PM ^

about BYU ticket price when it's the 3rd best team on home schedule and is a borderline top 25 team. If they're being close to a sellout, the pricing is correct and they get an even greater revenue from it which is the purpose of the athletic department to maximize revenues so they can pay for scholarship, facilities, equipments, etc.

Cjhmichfan

August 10th, 2015 at 8:25 PM ^

If not mistaken, parts of these sections are set aside for group sales (10+)! I would imagine if the number of groups sales tickets hasn't been met, they probably release those seats for sale to the general public.