MgoBlog cited in Detroit News

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Saturday morning article by Niyo ... link won't paste in from my iPad (sorry)

GoWings2008

November 1st, 2014 at 8:38 AM ^

and for what its worth, I don't think you can do it from the iPad anyway, like you said.  

BUT, using this opportunity to thread jack and say GREAT JOB to the Red Wings for beating the defending Stanley Cup Champions last night 5-2!!!

mGrowOld

November 1st, 2014 at 8:49 AM ^

I think its worth noting the axiom "no risk-no reward" certainly applies to Brian's decision to run the front page post claiming the emails to be real.  The night before, when he let it be known that he was going to run the story the following day, many posters suggested he not do this because if he was wrong it would destroy the credibility of the blog.  Which is probably accurate.  If those emails had been faked and Brian claimed them to be factual then MGoBlog would've been significantly discredited.

But they were real and now mainstream media, both locally and nationally, is rightly giving credit where credit is due.  And that is pretty damn cool IMO.

Viva la Blog.

PeterKlima

November 1st, 2014 at 9:02 AM ^

The back patting around here is getting pretty comical. Every time the media mentions the media (aka this site) as a continuing reason, someone posts it here. It seems like you don't realize that the media like to emphasize the importance of their bretheren.

mGrowOld

November 1st, 2014 at 9:14 AM ^

Except that the mainstream media generally don't consider bloggers to be their "bretheren".  The steriotypical blogger in their minds is some wackjob posting his important thoughts out of his mom's basement - not a highly trained and educated defender of journalistic values like themselves.

To be credited in as many places as this place has been over the past 24 hours IS a big deal IMO and a validation, in a way, that this blog's writers deserve a place at the grown-up table when it comes to reporting.

User -not THAT user

November 1st, 2014 at 9:18 AM ^

This.

Traditional media has always regarded bloggers as being layabouts in their pajamas living in their parents' basements...they don't like having their thunder stolen by a bunch of new-media upstarts, so giving credit where credit is due is good to see.

Possible neg to me for redundancy, but mGrowOld is spot on.

PeterKlima

November 1st, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^

What year is it? This site does investigative pieces. It has a press pass. It's reporters are on radio shows a lot. It's reporters are bing hired by ESPN, etc. This isn't some bull item board system from the early days of the internet. This IS mainstream media.


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PeterKlima

November 1st, 2014 at 9:31 AM ^

That is a very 2005 view of things. Maybe old reporters feel that way. I know many editors and reporters. They know their online edition and the internet/blogs are the current state of the media. Maybe in the eyes of Joe Falls this blog isn't mainstream media. Everyone else knows it is. (As a funny aside, Fox News doesn't consider themselves mainstream either.). The no respect card is a hard one to play


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charblue.

November 1st, 2014 at 10:07 AM ^

digitally aware these days, and have blogs themselves with their own news forums attached. I think you correct in noting the general POV of newspaper reporters and editors, but the fact is many newspaper people have been furloughed in recent years as that industry has declined and most newspaper delivery comes to you via your computer instead of your doorstop. Many of those who left the industry have since gone ditgital and are still working as contributors to various blogs themselves. So while your general observation about the view of blogs and their professional journalistic competency is largely true, the fact is that the view itself is antique, and the journalistic line is pretty blurred these days.

I mean how much original or indepth reporting goes on at ESPN and BTN.com outside of fluff and sports features. A limited amount because they are in the information and promotion business with a wider audience than most other journalistic endeavors.

It speaks well of the blog that serious work is done here not just by Brian but the many contributors. And that work, I can genuinely assure you, often far surpasses the amount of effort and research that many news organizations put into certain stories. Moreover, what Brian accomplished with his reporting went beyond what most newspapers and news organizations would do in preparing a story for publication. So, from that standpoint, I entirely agree with your point of view about this.

charblue.

November 1st, 2014 at 9:40 AM ^

that Brian spent so much time researching and verifying those email exchanges between fans and Dave Brandon, the media wouldn't and couldn't cite the blog information without crediting it to the blog. What's more, the citing of the source, does more to protect the medium using that information because it attributes responsibilty for its veracity to the blog, which again is why Brian made the effort to verify the material. In the end, it's about cya before going public with something.

LSAClassOf2000

November 1st, 2014 at 9:35 AM ^

That's "something that, intellectually, I knew on the way in the door," Schlissel acknowledged. "But, boy, did I sense the passion of all the fans, the alumni, the supporters of all our athletics programs in general, and football in particular."

I still feel a bit bad for Schlissel that his first notable experiences with how intergral football is to the culture at Michigan came in the middle of a down season and in the midst of all that has gone on at the end of the Brandon era here. Hopefully, moving forward, he gets to see it as we know it can be. 

CR

November 1st, 2014 at 9:49 AM ^

Much as I love newspapers and other dead media, it is more impressive to me that this blog references the News than the converse..

I see better and more interesting takes on sports on this site than in, say, the New York Times, a paper I like. There is just, well, smarter stuff here---aside from the brilliant writings of Brian Cook and Seth Fisher, and numerous others, too many to name. 

So, my question is, in this age where everyone knows everything that happens and knows it right away, when does the nth accrue? When, in McLuhan-esque fashion, does this electronic immediacy begin to collapse on itself and become its inverse? And then, what does this new privacy look like? No more "brothels without walls?" No more "every man a cubist?" What?

OK, back to my pedestrain hole of legal writing. Blah, blah, blah, strict construction, blah, blah (insert fake latin). I wait for some smart person to see me clear through the mist. [My old UM Prof, Donald Hall, might call this something like a "poor ruined war." Sorry, been up all night.]

Craig

 

SalvatoreQuattro

November 1st, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^

MgoBlog is clearly a very reptuable site and the media is finally recognizing that, but then you have the blogs/independent websits that stream bullshit 24/7. I'm talking about the conspiracy and partisan hacks sites. Blogs have brought democracy to journalism, but as with the political form of democracy, as much bad as good comes with that. 

Blogs are an option to the "corporate media" people love to revile and that is generally a good time. More people keep those in power and in positions of influence in check.The "Fire Brandon" campaugn is an excellent example of this. MgoBlog kept up the heat on UM until they finally had to act. Kudos to the staff for MgoBlog for that.

My only quesion is who keeps the bloggers/internet reporters in check? For every Brian Cook there is are two or three Ace Williams who are not concerned in the least with accuracy or actual reporting. Their sources either are the bum on the street or some body part. Unregulated journalism(from a social standpoint, not legally) is a real danger both to the integrity of journalism itself and to the public. If a society cannot trust it's journalists to act in a responsible manner where facrts and accuracy are paramount to clicks than we as a society are very much in trouble. They are the scouts who warn us of impending trouble.