Boner Stabone

November 26th, 2016 at 9:31 PM ^

I am getting sick of these BS calls against us.  Bo experienced USC's Charles White scoring a touchdown without a football.  Moeller experienced the Desomond Howard tripping end zone play, Carr got to experience Spartan Bob in 2001.  

I acted the same way today that I did with all of those other games,( minus the Charles White game, because I was only 4.)  I threw things, I cussed, and cannot figure out why good things cannot happen to Michigan.  It sure seems like the refs have it out for us and any close call will always go the other way.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

November 26th, 2016 at 10:19 PM ^

neutral folks (PSU fans who probably wanted UM to lose) and they openly opined that the refs hosed us.

Too bad. Not sure if the B1G placed pressure on the refs or sheer incompetence, but UM is jobbed from the CFP.  

JH should probably pull back on the in-game commotion with refs - they are genuinely 2nd class citizens in this sport and want to protect their status (just look at all the nonsense with targeting to prove their discretion power). 

drzoidburg

November 27th, 2016 at 1:38 AM ^

Yeah ideally you do everything to take the game out of the ref's hands, but in a bitterly fought like this you can't expect to get fucked over on two *huge* calls they gave them extra first downs (and not to mention the 4th down would've literally ended the game) and still come on top in the official score The PI call was especially unforgiveable. That MIGHT have made the diff in regulation. There was only 5 minutes left, after all. Then again, UM failed to run out the clock vs Iowa. But they should've had the opportunity, and were robbed of it. Then there is 'the spot' Well i was saying all week i just hope 1) it's a competitive game and 2) the refs don't ruin it. This is why i would never plop down $300+ for tickets and make a road trip. So long as the refs can ruin the outcome - and no, instant replay has not put a stop to that, clearly - i'll be watching for free elsewhere

chewieblue

November 27th, 2016 at 8:28 AM ^

T Love Harbaugh, but this is only fodder for annoying, Facebook posting Buckeye fans. My biggest complaint about Harbaugh is the way he complains about every call. If the refs are really against us, like everyone on here seems to think, what good does making them public adversaries do? It also inadvertently reaches our kids to place blame. Dude is our savior and a great coach, but definitely not handling this ref thing well.



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ConfessedBuckeye

November 28th, 2016 at 11:19 AM ^

Going to be completely transparent here: I’m a Buckeye alum and die-hard fan. But I’m not here to screw with anyone or gloat or troll in general.

Let me also say that, while I have the same fervid distaste for your football program you likely do for mine, I’m not a wacko who thinks all Michigan fans are lowlifes or that they don’t know anything football. I live in Northeast Ohio and have several very good friends who are Michigan alums and fans.

I try to be pragmatic and honest. Yes, I have watched teams of mine win and afterwards said, “Man, without those couple crappy calls we don’t win that game.” I’m not above calling b.s. on my own team (OSU-Penn State 2003 being an example off the top of my head). I worked in college and pro sports media for 7 years and learned quite a bit about unbiased analysis during that time. But, even after watching the game a second time with this argument in mind I can say with 100% confidence I don’t feel that way in the slightest about this particular outcome.

Having said that, I’m a bit surprised by the general narrative here, which has been so critical on the officiating and – for many of you -- largely ignored some abhorrent mistakes at particularly bad times. Simply take away one of Speight’s two INTs or his fumble on the 1, and Michigan may have won that game by 20!

Let me be clear: I’m not saying OSU fans might not have reacted the same way (again, I’m not claiming our fan base is generally superior). I’m only saying I’m surprised by the lack of accountability, with your head coach most concerningly leading that charge.

I’m not going to dive into each protested moment, but I want to lay out a couple indisputable things any reasonable fan should accept:

 

1. I’m giving this forum the benefit of the doubt that most of you know football and understand the various roles involved. I officiated basketball for several years. My father and grandfather both were football officials for more than 25 years a piece. I also have had the fortune of speaking with some of the most prominent officials in football, including the heads of NFL crews.

It goes without saying these guys take their jobs as seriously as the players and coaches, and that they hold themselves to a high standard to get things right. But if you talk to any official they will tell you that easily the single most important pillar of what they do is fairness.

You’re welcome to cry foul on calls you don’t agree with, but accusing officials of purposely altering decisions that affect the outcome of a game is the equivalent of accusing a Mafia man of being a rat. It’s just utter insanity. I know all of you aren’t making that claim, but a pretty notable number of you are.

Also, those who have suggested there’s some larger conspiracy at play by the Big Ten (or whomever else), have no foundation for that argument. You aren’t rooting for Northwestern. Michigan’s fan base is gigantic and travels well, just like Ohio State’s.

If fact, if the Big Ten would’ve preferred anyone to win that game it likely would’ve been Michigan! It would have officially placed another one of its programs back in national prominence. Not to mention, Michigan also would conceivably travel better than OSU at this point, given it’s been longer since their fans have experienced that level of success.

Now that we’ve established that bias is the absolute cardinal sin in officiating anyway, I also should point out that the official everyone is crying about because he’s from Ohio is essentially the 7th or 8th man on that crew. While any official can throw penalty flags, he’s in a position to make significantly fewer important decisions than his counterparts, and he's one of the least influential officials on the field.

Finally & most importantly, the line judge who actually made the call on the spot in overtime was Brian Bolinger. He’s from Fort Wayne, Ind. He went to Indiana State, and works as a safety director at a wire manufacturer. As far as I can tell, he has no connection to the state of Ohio other than 3 years in the mid-90s working in “Northwest Ohio,” which likely was closer to Ann Arbor than Columbus, anyway.

He’s a respected human being, and we have no reason or right to question his integrity.

Which brings me to my next point:

 

2. The spot itself. Brian Boligner has officiated hundreds – perhaps thousands – of football games. He’s likely always or almost always a linesman. One of his primary jobs, with which he’s had years and years of practice, is spotting.

Referees are taught to assess and prepare for potential situations before they happen. On a vital 4th down in overtime of a game with national title implications I can tell you with complete certainty this guy is thinking: “The ball is on my side of the field. Ohio State is almost certain to run. There’s a 90% chance this call is mine.” Even before the play begins he’s completely zeroed in and ready to make the call.

If you’ve ever stood on the sidelines of a football field during a game you will know that the vantage points from just about anywhere other than the line of scrimmage are terrible. And if you’re more than 15 yards away, from ground level it’s hard to tell the difference between 2 yards and 10 yards.

When you’re talking about judging such an intricate spot, the only accurate way to do so is to be on the exact plane of line to gain. Any angle, at any level, from any distance will skew that view.

As far as we know, no photo or video exists from that exact plane, so every image and replay we have seen is skewed favoring one side or the other. And since we’re talking about inches here, that’s extremely significant.

We know of one person who was precisely in that plane of sight during the play. It was Brian Bolinger, who: 1) has decades of experience making those types of calls, and 2) knew the play was likely coming his way and, in that moment, almost certainly had his eyes completely and totally focused on the single task of accurately spotting the forward progress of that ball!

I’m not saying it was or wasn’t a first down. What I am saying is for anyone to be so sure one way or the other is impractical, given that the person who made the decision was more qualified than any of us to do so, and happened to be standing in the best possible place to make that decision.

It’s as if a surgeon is standing above a patient in surgery and diagnosing an issue, and I’m 20 feet away looking through the window telling him he’s wrong.

 

Again, I haven’t come here to troll anyone. I’m not saying Ohio State fans might not have had a similar reaction. I’m not saying there weren’t missed calls in the game (yes, it was PI, but those back-shoulder grabs are missed probably 2x a quarter in college football.)

My point is: Be honest and reasonable. There’s no conspiracy against Michigan. That spot was a matter of literally inches, and none of us – including Jim Harbaugh – was in any position to call it one way or the other better than the person who actually made the call. Finally, officials do not purposely alter calls to reflect a personal bias, and to make an accusation that someone is practicing their profession fraudulently is completely out of line.

It was an amazing game, and I’m finally going to stubbornly admit Michigan is 100% back and ready to compete for a national title. But Michigan lost that game – more than anything -- because of some really, really costly turnovers.