seen on another board: "MSU's star rankings from Rivals Our current starting lineup = 2.79 stars Roland Martin = 4 stars Charlie Gantt = 4 stars Eric Gordon = 4 stars Mark Dell = 4 stars Brian Hoyer = 3 stars Javon Ringer = 3 stars Brandon Long = 3 stars Otis Wiley = 3 stars Ryan Allison = 3 stars Rocco Cironi = 3 stars Joel Nitchman = 3 stars Kendall Davis-Clark = 3 stars Brett Swenson = 3 stars Oren Wilson = 3 stars Greg Jones = 3 stars BJ Cunningham = 3 stars Johnny Adams = 3 stars Jesse Miller = 2 stars Justin Kershaw = 2 stars Trevor Anderson = 2 stars Dan Fortener = 2 stars Aaron Bates = 2 stars Joel Foreman = 2 stars Blair White = Walk-on" Compared to ours: Offense Matthews- 4 Ortmann- 3 Ferrara- 3 Molk- 3 Moosman- 4 Shilling- 5 Koger- 4 Odoms- 3 Stonum- 4 Threet- 4 Minor- 4 O = 3.72 stars Defense Jamison- 4 Johnson- 4 Taylor- 4 Graham- 5 Thompson- 3 Ezeh- 3 Mouton- 4 Trent- 4 Brown- 4 Harrison- 4 Warren- 5 D = 4 stars Total = 3.86 this is just unacceptable. How did we lose to MSU when our players have vastly superior talent? coaching and conditioning certainly arent the issue as brian has so eloquantly detailed in this blog. It is amazing that experience at key positions makes such a difference. this just shows how quickly we will be back. this much talent can not possibly under acheive for two years in a row. - The Michigan Difference (LSA'99)