OT Jameis Winston did not violate code [LOCKED]

Submitted by bluebyyou on

The title tells it all.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls14/story/_/id/12062132/jameis-…

"The preponderance of the evidence has not shown that you are responsible for any of the charge violations of the Code," Major Harding, a former Florida State Supreme Court Chief Justice who oversaw the case, said in a letter to the parties obtained by the Associated Press and USA Today. "Namely, I find that the evidence before me is insufficient to satisfy the burden of proof."

MOD EDIT - Yikes. This didn't go all that well - LSA

Wendyk5

December 21st, 2014 at 8:51 PM ^

The troubling thing in this case and those like them is that when the burden of proof isn't met (and I assume that means different things in different states as well as in a court of law versus a university disciplinary meeting) the woman is automatically judged to be a liar. Either she's right and her accuser is guilty, or she's a slutty whore looking to either make a buck in a civil suit or she's a psycho looking to get revenge. Of course, there couldn't possibly be any more options than that. Right? 

Wendyk5

December 21st, 2014 at 9:57 PM ^

So let's just say she is a "cleatchaser" for argument's sake. Can a cleatchaser not be raped? Can a woman who has an affinity for athletes, or musicians for that matter - groupies - is a sexual act forced upon a woman like this not rape? Can only certain types of women be raped? 

Wendyk5

December 21st, 2014 at 11:00 PM ^

I just want to understand what you're saying. Becasue she posed in this manner (which I assume you think is provocative), she must be not telling the truth, and perhaps even asking for it? Please correct me if that's not what you meant with this link. 

Wendyk5

December 21st, 2014 at 11:00 PM ^

I just want to understand what you're saying. Because she posed in this manner (which I assume you think is provocative), she must be not telling the truth, and perhaps even asking for it? Please correct me if that's not what you meant with this link. 

mgoblue0970

December 21st, 2014 at 11:14 PM ^

Let me be crystal clear to you right now. Nowhere, NOWHERE, in my post did I endorse rape. I believe that treating a woman anything less than a gentleman is completely unacceptable and there is a special corner in hell for those who don't. It's a shame I have to spell that out but you social justice morons have a penchant for fabricating something out of nothing. Posting "cleatchaser" is indicative of poor decision making. Like it or not, posting "cleatchaser" undermines credibility. Posting "cleatchaser" makes the panel's job of judging code violations difficult.

Wendyk5

December 21st, 2014 at 11:33 PM ^

Unfortunately neither you nor I know what happened in that room. Only they do. But let's be clear about something: rape is not about perception. It is not about image, or style of dress. It's about an act perpetrated by one person against another. Facts can't always be proven in a court of law, or a university disciplinary tribunal, for a number of reasons. That doesn't mean the act in question didn't happen.  And next time you call someone a moron, make sure you know your facts about that person. 

 

Badkitty

December 22nd, 2014 at 3:06 AM ^

It doesn't matter if you're a porn star or a prostitute. Consent is consent and no means no. Look at the blog's favorite model, Kate Upton. Would you heap scorn on her if she accused someone? After all she poses in some pretty provocative shoots so she "must be asking for it." I don't know you and I probably don't want to know you. But people who qualify their statements beginning with some sort "I'm a good person because I have this kind of friend or neighbor so I can't be a racist, homophobic, sexist, etc jerk" always spew out some of the vilest opinions because of course, they're "good people."



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rkfischer

December 21st, 2014 at 10:00 PM ^

Florida State University should be ashamed. They and the local police care only about FSU football. The Feds should give them the death sentence. The Winston so called investigation was a farce. Evidence was destroyed, information was shared with Winston’s lawyer and not the plaintiff. This has all been well covered in national media. I know FSU grads are cringing and getting worried. Three of my best friends are FSU grads. They are sick about this.

Is this unusual for priorities to be given to football players instead of justice? It happens but it is not right or fair. I would never let my daughters go to a school where they shame women so much. Rape happens in many places and even good universities. But it doesn’t have to happen. Behavior can change. People can be brought to justice. The justice system can work . . . even within a university setting. Usually everyone needs training and a sense of urgency. Women have a right to an education without being afraid. FSU cares about none of this. I hope FSU burns in hell for their behavior. Have the Feds cut them off from funding. I hope they start losing football games and women stop applying to school there. They are despicable.

I want Michigan to win in athletics but not at the price of a lack of integrity.  

OccaM

December 22nd, 2014 at 5:15 AM ^

God forbid shoddy evidence doesn't find Winston guilty. Dude isn't an angel but according to the evidence, he isn't guilty either. It doesn't mean that he is innocent, but there is just not enough evidence like many other rape cases. Contradicting statements from the alleged victim and her family's racial biases against Black men definitely doesn't do her any favors. 

Funny watching people having tantrums because 3 different investigations did not work out in their agenda driven favor.