YouTube problem (Response from ZEFR) EDIT: We're screwed. We're all screwed.

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on

I have some great news regarding the thread posted yesterday by WolverineHistorian. I emailed the guy who made the claims on my videos and this is what his supervisor had to say to me-

Hi Mike WolverineDevotee,

 
My name is Chris Marshall and I am a Content Manager here at ZEFR (movieclips is a small branch of our company), managing our relationship with T3 Media, the legal owner of premium footage and licensing for Big Ten Basketball and Football. I wanted to follow up with you in regards to your question on copyright claims on your video.  T3's corporate policy across the board states that the allowance granted to outlets like yourself to upload Big Ten Basketball and/or Football content to your YouTube channels does not allow for claiming ownership on or monetizing content.  T3 alone reserves the right to claim the content they own.  
 
I understand its a bit confusing as the ZEFR name shows up as the claimant of the content, but in reality, the claim is made on behalf of T3, the rightful owner of that content.  The claims made against your channel do not harm your channel in any way.
 
If you have a question about a specific video, or have any other questions at all, please let me know.  I would be happy to answer. 
 
I then emailed him back and asked him about us (WH, goblue16, Thorin and myself) who post highlight videos, if we would be able to continue to do it. And that we are not YouTube partners and making money off of our videos-
 
Yes you will be able to continue to post clips.  T3 may claim them and monetize, meaning ads will appear, but your clips will not be removed from YouTube.  If that ever happens let me know, as clips and highlights should not be blocked or taken down.
 
So it appears that we can continue our hobbies and continue posting videos. It may take awhile to rebuild and reupload videos but they will be fine.
 
This really is a huge relief for myself being that I spent over $500 on future projects for YouTube, getting video highlights and audio from non-televised games from the 70s. As I'm sure it is for guys like Thorin who has mgovideo and WH who has spent countless hours editing, chopping and uploading for our enjoyment.  

 

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CRex

February 15th, 2013 at 3:08 PM ^

Pandora.tv, a South Korean video website that has ties to Cyworld (and an English UI) is fairly reliable in America.  It can sometimes take 20 seconds or so to buffer up the stream, but I've watched TV shows on it before.  Example sports clip.

Tudou.com is completely DCMA proof as it is Chinese and they just laugh at that kind of stuff.  The downside it is can be slow.  That said, not terribly so, in that if I start a movie buffering, go to the kitchen and make snacks, and come back I have enough buffered to watch without interruption.  That said tudou's 30 second load time and intro ads can be annoying when you just want to watch a minute or two of highlights.  

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CRex

February 15th, 2013 at 5:16 PM ^

Pandora requires a premium account for HD features, which in theory costs money, but the bugmenot extension will just log you in and bypass it without difficulty normally.  

http://tvpot.daum.net/, another Korean host, will do 720p but has no english UI.

For Tudou, the HD is in Chinese right next to the volume control, if you go to Gangam Style: 

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/55QSNv_oOgg/?fr=rec2, wait for the ad and once the video starts and click on the two Chinese characters to the right of the volume control.  Select the top two on the list that pops up and that will give you a taste of Tudou's HD.  

If we had a planned move to an overseas source, I'd imagine we're a multilingual enough community we could support a guide on the UI of one of these sites.  

 

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Jonesy

February 22nd, 2013 at 5:18 PM ^

Wow, this blows, I watch at least half (basically anything not on espn3) of michigan's basketball games on youtube via mgovideo and mgodisney.  I'd gladly play BTN some amount of money to watch these games on their website, alas thats not exactly an option.

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scottiek65

February 22nd, 2013 at 11:35 PM ^

We all can take it for granted that every Michigan football game will be on TV now. Especially with BTN.  I grew up in the 70s, and even living in Michigan, only a couple of games were on TV every year. I had to listen to Michigan football on the radio.  Its staggering to think of it now given the current state of internet and satellite TV.  My family moved from Niles to Los Angeles in 1976 and I think of how hard it was to see Michigan games until there was ESPN college football pay per view, 

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Jonesy

February 25th, 2013 at 7:09 PM ^

As a kid growing up in Los Angeles in the 80s we used to go to random bars across LA to watch games with the alumni club, we did this often, but I don't remember if we did it for every game or just the big ones not on TV.

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Chris of Dange…

February 25th, 2013 at 2:51 PM ^

I've been out of touch for several weeks and just recently realiazed that ZEFR has blocked about a dozen of my (ridiculously one-sided) parkinggod highlight reels.  I debated contacting ZEFR to ask f they could just add their ads (or whatever) and unblock them, because I've got a couple other highlight videos where that's being done.  The reason I didn't ask is because I didn't want to bring attention to the other hundred-some highlight reels, Moving Picture Pages, etc., that I've done and risk having ALL of them blocked.

Based on the inconsistent behavior of ZEFR since WD's initial contact, I think I'm going to sit tight for a while longer.

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