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Have you forgotten that this…

Have you forgotten that this is one of the rags that tried to torpedo Michigan's football program for a few cheap clicks?

Well there's one rule, and…

Well there's one rule, and that's that programs aren't allowed to pay players even federal minimum wage.  NIL is just a money laundering loophole.

I'm gonna knock the system. …

I'm gonna knock the system.  Billions of TV revenue are disappeared on a scale that would make Al Capone blush in his grave, so coaches are reduced to begging for money on the phone because some 17-year-old thinks he's entitled to be a millionaire before he's even put on the uniform.

It's embarrassing that May and Day are spending significant working hours on fundraising a glorified money laundering operation for teenagers.  They're both extremely wealthy (or will be soon, in May's case) but explicitly forbidden from even treating a player to a damn burger with their own money.  It's madness.

Yeah, imagine the positional…

Yeah, imagine the positional improvement they could've had the past few years over schlubs like CJ Stroud (1st round pick), MHJ (1st round pick), Garret Wilson (1st round pick), Chris Olave (1st round pick), Paris Johnson Jr. (1st round pick), and Smith-Njigba (1st round pick), if only they had their booster program's shit together.  If only!  Just imagine the superior talent they could've acquired instead.

Sigh. . . the world may never know.

At this stage I would just…

At this stage I would assume any listing is a placeholder.  These players haven't even scrimmaged together yet.

Feel free to endlessly speculate, though.  It's what this site do.

Did something well?  I think…

Did something well?  I think it's hilarious if they unironically think this is a good look.  This is unhealthy obsession.

It's a joke, sir.I mean, you…

It's a joke, sir. (Not even mine, I stole it from Blinkin)

You're not obligated to find it funny, but an awkward forced chuckle would've been nice.

I think those are kinda…

I think those are kinda funny.  Pondered making one myself, for the irony.  Get me a spoiler like it came off the boom of a P-38, 'cuz I ain't dusting anyone with 1.5L under the hood.  But -- and here's the rub -- I decided that'd be a ridiculous waste of money for a joke.

Nah, this is more like, when I see a Ford F-750 or whatever with those big rig vertical exhaust systems and six tires and truck nuts and patriotic decals. . . and a perfectly pristine cargo bed.  Meaning it's not a work truck, it's a gorram white-collar commuter.  You could be doing the exact same thing in a used Kia, but you're mortgaging your future on a boner surrogate.

They're always stacked at…

They're always stacked.  I've been following B1G football since the mid-90s and there was never a year OSU was not stacked.

They're going to do well and they might actually beat us.  What's tragically hilarious is just how far they have to go.  I mean, that they'd:

  • Put a HC with a career 56-8 (!!!!) record in the hot seat,
  • Run a good starting QB out of town, and
  • Sell their parents to glue factories just to beat Michigan

. . . All in the same year?  Imma say it:  that's Little Brother II.  I ain't saying that because the last three years made me forget the prior twenty-some ass-kickings.  "Little Brother" isn't about rivalry records; it's how much the program's identity is warped by Michigan Complex.  While not quite to the level of STAEE yet, this is getting silly.

They didn't solve their qb…

They didn't solve their qb problem

You sure?

Ryan Day has taken a step back from day-to-day coaching

Only if the problem is…

Only if the problem is something like football.  Then the wallets open up and flip upside down.  If the problem is humanitarian, no, sorry, there just isn't enough to go around.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. . .

Ohio has a lot of stupid…

Ohio has a lot of stupid money sloshing around, apparently.

I love football, but in my head, I put it in its place as entertainment.  There are tons of things these benefactors could spend their fuck-you money on to improve that shithole of a state, but this is what they're doing.

P.S. Random thought:  imagine the boost to Ohio's economy if they put all this NIL money toward academic scholarships instead.

Title IX is a red herring,…

Title IX is a red herring, and a particularly odious one at that, because a lot of bad people are extremely eager to get rid of it.  Not saying you are, I'm just saying, be skeptical of vocal opinions about Title IX when they say, "This could be a potential problem," because that's usually a dogwhistle for, "I want this to be a problem, for want of an excuse to repeal it."

Fact is, even before we get to Title IX, we're gonna have an extremely heated debate about players on the same team.  The starting QB is naturally going to demand more money than the third-string linebacker, and the latter is going to naturally argue for equal payment for all.  As far as precedent goes, no one expects all employees at any workplace to make the same money, and this status quo coasts along fine next to equal opportunity laws.  Equal opportunity =/= equal pay.  So, once they're considered employees, I see the starting QB winning this battle.

Which means pay is going to be unequal before female athletes factor in the conversation.  And since women's athletics don't bring in nearly as much revenue, that they won't get paid as much will inevitably result in a slew of Title IX lawsuits that I predict with confidence won't get very far, excepting special cases like Caitlin Clark (who single-handedly raised basketball ratings during her time in college).

Sorry, think I'm being…

Sorry, I think I'm being misunderstood a bit here.  The conversation upthread is focused on program-player negotiations, but I'm not on that.  I was replying to bluebyyou on this:

Regarding Brian's comment that the single transfer rule was correct, I would agree that the rule would significantly reduce movement in and out of the portal.

I'm specifically focused on Brian's rant (starting about 29:50) about portal abuse, and him saying the NCAA should use loss of eligibility to restrict that.  I'm opposed to using the NCAA for anything, but also against restricting horizontal movement in general.  The courts ruled against it for a reason.  (But I'm also saying Brian should be able to point a finger at someone like Derrick Harmon and laugh.)

I think that's a moot point,…

I think that's a moot question, at least as far as Michigan goes.  In every case I've seen, a walk-on that gets significant playing time gets awarded a scholarship, and anyone who doesn't, doesn't go to the NFL.

You're basically "what if"…

You're basically "what if"-ing every scenario Brian is not talking about.

There's the rub though:  wrt…

There's the rub though:  wrt employment agreements, treating them as such would be nice, because something like signing contracts would go a long way toward providing stability.  But I consider that a different approach than going, "NCAA, fix this," because the very reason programs can't offer contracts is the NCAA's insistence that players aren't employees.  Putting the fox in charge of henhouse security doesn't go well.

I also don't think it's a controversial take to say that Derrick Harmon isn't made of the same stuff as Michael Barrett.

I don't know if regulating…

I don't know if regulating behavior of this sort ever works for the better.  We're not talking about crimes here; we're talking about simple self-interest.  Brian doesn't like the optics, but he's really just bitching about the world we all live in now.

That said, while I wouldn't try to throw regs at a portal frequent flyer, I think it's long past time we drop the "happy trails" bullshit and call a spade a spade:  if you're transferring multiple times for more PT, you're a coward.  Seriously.  You're in competitive sports and the first thing you do when the coach starts someone else is to run away from competition?

Let's not have the NCAA -- a embarrassingly incompetent institution -- try to implement a fix here.  But can we at least throw tomatoes at fragile snowflakes who transfer more times than they have years of eligibility?  I ain't rooting for a player whose first reaction to adversity is to leave town.  After all, a guy who soils his pants next to a teammate probably lacks the requisite mental toughness to face a powerhouse opponent.

They’re also dumb. I’m…

They’re also dumb. Like, really dumb. Dangerously dumb. I’m seeing Harvard grads everywhere turning everything they touch to shit, and that’s because you don’t need to study if legacy is your qualification. The ones who get in the hard way are sharp as razors but they’re a vanishingly small minority that serve to legitimize the American Habsburgs.

It’s to the point I consider Harvard a degree mill now, except no one’s caught up to reality.  That's terrifying, and visibly damaging the country.

Image embedding is busted…

Image embedding is busted. Known issue, probably low priority.

Yeah, yikes. That’s a tough…

Yeah, yikes. That’s a tough major without the time commitment from football.

Continuing the tradition (?) of brainy nerdy WRs named CJ.

Whatever comes out of…

Whatever comes out of everyone going, "As much as possible for me, as little as possible for everyone else."

Well if nothing else it's…

Well if nothing else it's preparing them for the future, where in the job market the same thing's happening.

Saban’s a pundit now, and he…

Saban’s a pundit now, and he’s always had good business sense. He has to show he’s more than a Tide homer to broaden his appeal, so praising Sainristil is a smart move because he was on the team that ended his coaching career.

Saban knows football, but that feelingsball gushing was over-the-top for him.  Sounds like he’s polishing his act, which TBF is what a professional entertainer would do, but if that’s how he’s rolling then I wouldn’t take much of what he says seriously.

There is no one planning…

There is no one planning ahead. We’re talking about a rentier class milking college athletics for all it’s worth, at whatever deteriment to athletics itself. They’ll burn the whole thing down to preserve the status quo for one hour, and to avoid sharing a single penny.

The really scary thing isn’t what football is about to become. If it actually collapses, these psychopaths will just move their ill-gotten gains to something that might actually matter, like infrastructure. Then you’ll start seeing people die.

Or you could join my…

Or you could join my religion.  I'm taking tomorrow off due to, uh, Feast of. . . Maximum Occupancy.

Eh, whoever put that…

Eh, whoever put that together is a fake Ben Mason fan, maybe even a fake football fan.  You don't make a fullback highlight reel entirely out of carries.  That's as uninformed as putting together a pocket QB's highlight reel of sneaks.

Ol' Murderface was a fine short-yardage and changeup back, but he didn't earn his nickname carrying the rock.  His job was to go find the free hitter and give him the pain.  It's thankless, dirty work, and he excelled at it.

MSU hires something other…

MSU hires something other than human garbage to coach their program for the first time in at least a generation and twenty players jump ship.

Everyone wants to make that a statement of where MSU is, but I think it's a horrifying revelation of what it was.  I mean, we have tons of evidence otherwise, but this also basically confirms the Dantonio Express running between Spartan Stadium and the local correctional facility was hardly a joke.

Yeah OP kind of buried the…

Yeah OP kind of buried the lede right in the headline, which is kind of impressive.

Scale.A hypothetical NFL …

Scale.

A hypothetical NFL "booster" doesn't care about depth pieces, like that reserve G/T hybrid.  You'd use any extra money to bring in elite talent, as in, elite by NFL standards.  But those guys already make a ton of money.  Mahomes, for example, makes $40-50 million a year, and that's just his NFL contract.  What kind of extra offer do you make to a guy already swimming in "fuck you" money?  You could offer an endorsement deal, but you'd actually want Mahomes selling your crap.

College is a different beast because the players were (illegally) denied pay, so the starting point was essentially zero.  A lot of players these days are legacy, but some four- and five-stars still do come from lower-class families where even $50k can be life-changing.

This isn't related to…

This isn't related to anything, but in the banner photo. . . damn, that's a practiced hand.  I was a wire harness engineer in a past life so I know, keeping a consistent taping interval is surprisingly difficult.  There's no creasing or gaps either.  It's beautiful work.

OK, honest question(s):  Why…

Honest question:  Why should he care how many players May recruits?  If he just wants a new scene, then this indecision is weird.  But if it's about playing time. . . sheesh, he hasn't even begun to compete for a spot.  Does GW3 have any confidence in his game to win the job?  Did May tell him he's riding the bench no matter what (which would go against everything we know about May so far)?  If no and no. . . why does GW3 fancy himself a competitive athlete, if he's afraid of competition?

I'm old enough to remember the story of an M athlete whose position was challenged by a five-star wunderkid (an obstacle far more daunting than GW3's).  After some soul-searching he marched into the HC's office, told him he's gonna prove he's the best one for the job, and worked his ass off.  Things turned out pretty well for Tom Brady.

GW3 has control over how he himself prepares for next season, and it's the only thing he has control over.  He could tell May, "I'm gonna prove you wasted your time on these transfers."  This is what he's doing instead.  I'm like, OK, happy trails man, but if we're allowed to mock OSU for being sawft, at least they showed up.  What do we even call this?  Where's the dawg in you, GW3?

Same.

Same.  It's not even like there was anything to invest in, like a team that's losing because it's too young and/or learning a new system.  It was a program in year 5, spiraling into collapse.  Not only did I not want to follow terrible basketball, there was no valid reason to.

I'm paying attention now, but there's a blank.

For the QB, maybe. The rest…

For the QB, maybe. The rest of us have to deal with the PbP going “JJ to JJ!” and endlessly laughing at their own cleverness for years to come.

Kind of a toss-up really…

Kind of a toss-up really. There are so many marginal (by NFL standards) players out there, there isn’t much of a difference in ability between Day 3 picks and UDFAs that get signed.

IIRC Kovacs (who went undrafted) said as soon as the draft ended, his phone lit up with teams inquiring about his availability.

You'd think if the data…

You'd think if the data showed someone shot better contested you'd just go, "OK we can guard the other four players with five."

Right, it's complete anarchy…

Right, it's complete anarchy.  Programs are offering money they aren't paying -- doesn't matter if you lied, you still have them stuck for a year, and you're not allowed to sign players to contracts anyway.  Programs are lying about other programs.  Programs are tampering the hell out of each other because the NCAA isn't enforcing any rules except burgers and cell phones.

This is not an environment to like if you love sports or even have basic empathy.  This is a system of, by, and for psychopaths.

I know baseball is a high…

I know baseball is a high-variance sport; I presume softball is as well.

That said, bad hitting doesn't get hot at all, so it's a relief to see the early season slump was the "high variance" part.

YMRMFSPA Derrick Walton?

YMRMFSPA Derrick Walton?

The football team has more…

The football team has more wins this year than May.  Think about that.

Heisman Trust yoinking the…

Heisman Trust yoinking the trophy had everything to do with the NCAA.  The NCAA has no direct say, but they made the rules that Bush & USC broke.  Similar to how Signgate was an NCAA violation, but the B1G raced to act first.  The B1G was out to get Michigan, but didn't have any impetus until the NCAA provided it.

No and yes.No, I'm against…

No and yes.

No, I'm against the Fab 5 being reinstated.  Ed Martin was dirty.  This wasn't burger receipts shit.  The Feds got involved and Webber almost went to prison.

Yes, I am in favor of hanging banners because in general the NCAA is corrupt shit, so I'm fine with putting up a line of giant middle fingers in defiance of their hypocritical and petty treatment of Michigan Athletics.  Hanging banners doesn't re-legitimize the Fab 5, nor should it, but I'm OK with a show of "fuck the NCAA".

If I could change the question, though, I feel like those are the wrong banners.  Michigan should put up a "2013 National Champions" banner because that team was clean, the block was clean, and Louisville was tainted.  Fuck "nobody won" nonsense.

What does an official NCAA record book look like, anyway?  How many gaps are in the books from vacated championships because they don't have the guts to anoint the proper victors?

Tre is much different than…

Tre is much different than the typical point guards that have played in Ann Arbor

What would that be exactly?  The PGs I remember coming through here weren't exactly clones of each other.

Dude showed up WAY out of…

Tre showed up WAY out of shape!  #FireMay

I won't even get into…

I won't even get into escaped slaves

"But I'll make sure to mention them and then conspicuously back away because even I know it's nonsense."

False equivalence fallacy, 15 MGoPoint penalty (or whatever) and loss of argument.

LOL, he broke the rules. …

LOL, he broke the rules.  They were stupid rules, but it's not like Bush getting money and lavish treatment was any sort of courageous stand.  He was good at football and getting pampered under the table for it, and knew all of it was not allowed at the time.

I kind of don't really care -- the Heisman is a joke award anyway -- but this isn't justice; it's just a stupid issue coming full circle.

Smith may not be…

Smith may not be dysfunctional enough.

I think it’s fair to raise an eyebrow at anyone who’s suddenly in a hurry to skedaddle as soon as a long reign of terror is replaced by a semblance of decency.

Teams take time to gel. As…

Teams take time to gel. As good as this roster is, first half of next season could be rough to watch. That’s not a knock on May; that’s just a realistic expectation.

I wouldn't call him quick …

I wouldn't call him quick (at least compared to what he'll face in the tourney) but he is smooth.  I can't see him staying in front of an athletic wing, but he shouldn't be completely helpless either.  You can things with that level of body control.

Bit concerning that he's an average finisher, considering the tools he has.  He doesn't look particularly lanky, but he does strike me as a finesse type.  I'm not sure he needs S&C so much as a mean streak.

Matt said none of those…

Matt said none of those things, so you're trying to start something from nothing.

I hope you got that out of your system, if at least it means you're done.