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USA vs Mexico soccer

There's a friendly match between USA and Mexico tonight at Mexico 8pm espn2.  The US all time is winless in Mexico.  I say its time for a change and a win tonight.   No dempsey or bradley tonight but will have donovan.   More younger guys for Klinesman squad tonight.   GO USA!

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August 15th, 2012 at 4:41 PM | For the love of God, please (Score:4 Normal)
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For the love of God, please play Joe Corona. 

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:00 PM | I'm honestly hoping that (Score:1 Normal)
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I'm honestly hoping that Klinsman goes with an entirely youthful lineup, even leaving out Donovan. I want to see guys like Corona, as well as Fabian Johnson and Zusi.  This game seems like its a changing of the guard, almost, for the older guys to make way for the young guns.  Hopefully Shea plays well, he seems to only really show up for half of the games he plays. Looking forward to this match, though I don't have much faith in the ability for us to win tonight.  Mexico is going to play a lot of first teamers, while we simply aren't.  Here's hoping we can keep it close.

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August 15th, 2012 at 4:57 PM | No Chris Pontius, but plenty (Score:2 Normal)
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No Chris Pontius, but plenty of Wondo.. I want a win in Estadio Azteca almost as bad as i want one at Jerryland. Hell of a way to keep my mind off the 1st of Sept.

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August 15th, 2012 at 6:20 PM | Wondo (Score:2 Normal)
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has never done anything internationally. He has no breakaway speed, a meh shot, and the only thing he really possesses is an aptitude for putting the ball in the back of the net against equal competition. I'd rather see Gomez or Boyd up top. Boyd is the big imposing presence in the middle needed for the wide system we play. The thing is though, we need to control the ball and pick the right pass or we'll get burned with how inept our defense has been. Plainly said we have a slim chance to win today and have to hope for plenty of mistakes on the other side.

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August 15th, 2012 at 6:53 PM | Not a huge fan of Wondo (Score:2 Normal)
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Not a huge fan of Wondo either. Not just being agreeable, he just leaves a lot more to be desired. However, I am a fan of Pontius. That's why I was so surprised to see him left off the roster, especially after his recent work-outs and stand-out play.. I guess Klinsmann likes something about Donovan and Shea.. To me it's an awkward coupling. Id just like to see them backed up with some crisp, cosistent passes. Boyd is proven and I don't know why he's not around.. Such an explosive player. Still like many US soccer fans; I feel Clint Dempsey can do no wrong on the pitch.

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August 15th, 2012 at 6:56 PM | NVM (Score:2 Normal)
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Hell yea T Boyd is on the roster! Glad I was mistaken..

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:02 PM | Not really surprised to see (Score:3 Normal)
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Not really surprised to see Ponitus left off the roster.  There are too many players better than him in the midfield for him to get called up.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:03 PM | Mexico (Score:2 Normal)
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¡Viva Mexico!

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August 15th, 2012 at 6:38 PM | Ew. (Score:5 Normal)
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Ew.

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:17 PM | We're not that bad =( (Score:2 Normal)
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We're not that bad =(

"I can pick leaves of tree in the backyard."

 

-Tom Strobel

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August 15th, 2012 at 8:43 PM | Our passing still is.... Too (Score:1)
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Our passing still is.... Too many giveaways

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:03 PM | I can't get over how insanely (Score:4 Normal)
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I can't get over how insanely long/busy the season is for pro soccer players.  If Mexico makes any of its three overage Olympic players play in this, that's just being cruel.

 

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:08 PM | Joe Corona is the future of (Score:2 Normal)
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Joe Corona is the future of the US midfield.

 

sidenote: first post since all my points were stolen from me.

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:32 PM | Uphill battle. None of the (Score:2 Normal)
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Uphill battle. None of the Euro guys outside Timmy Howard are playing. Mostly MLS guys/guys playing in the Americas.

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:25 PM | Is there a posted roster (Score:2 Normal)
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Is there a posted roster anywhere?

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:27 PM | here   Full (Score:2 Normal)
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here

 

Full Roster:

Goalkeepers: Tim Howard (Everton), Sean Johnson (Chicago Fire), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake)

Defenders: Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City), Steven Beithasour (San Jose Earthquakes), Geoff Cameron (Stoke City), Edgar Castillo (Club Tijuana), Michael Orozco Fiscal (San Luis), Fabian Johnson (Hoffenheim)

Midfielders: DaMarcus Beasley (Puebla), Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Joe Corona (Club Tijuana), Maurice Edu (Rangers), Jermaine Jones (Schalke 04), Jose Torres (Pachuca), Brek Shea (FC Dallas), Danny Williams (Hoffenheim), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City)

Forwards: Terrence Boyd (Rapid Vienna), Landon Donovan (LA Galaxy), Herculez Gomez (Santos), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose Earthquakes), Alan Gordon (San Jose Earthquakes)

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:37 PM | It's always seemed odd to me (Score:3 Normal)
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It's always seemed odd to me that coaches regularly call up three goalkeepers for one friendly.  

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:42 PM | Thanks (Score:2 Normal)
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I don't know why, but I've always been mad that Beckerman has played so much. I felt the same way about Ricardo Clark. They just feel like the Obi Ezehs out there.

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:47 PM | I am more upset when Ricardo (Score:3 Normal)
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I am more upset when Ricardo Clark is on the field than when Beckerman is.  I don't think Beckerman is any better than Clark, but he seems to know his own limitaitons better.

 

Ricardo Clark seems to think he can pass the ball THROUGH the legs of opposing attackers, which occasionally leads to goals that knock the US out of World Cup competitions....not that I'm bitter or anything.

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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August 15th, 2012 at 6:01 PM | Ricardo Clark:Bob (Score:2 Normal)
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Ricardo Clark:Bob Bradley::Tony Gibson:Rich Rod

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 15th, 2012 at 6:47 PM | Like Tony Gibson: Rich (Score:2 Normal)
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Like Tony Gibson: Rich Rod...  Ricardo Clark makes me go

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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August 15th, 2012 at 5:28 PM | I'm just still trying to get (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm just still trying to get my head around the selection of Alan Gordon.

M BSE '05, A&M PhD '11
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August 15th, 2012 at 5:57 PM | I thought that was a joke (Score:2 Normal)
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I thought that was a joke when my friend told me that he got called up.  I would rather see younger guys like Bunbery or Aguadelo get a chance.

It would have been nice to have Jozy on this roster too.  He just scored a brace for his club team couple days ago.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:20 PM | Yeah, Gordon was portrayed as (Score:2)
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Yeah, Gordon was portrayed as the wily, scrappy veteran barely making it on experience and hard work in the Grant Wahl authored Beckham book. And that was four or five years ago.

M BSE '05, A&M PhD '11
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August 15th, 2012 at 5:52 PM | No injuries and no discipline issues (Score:3 Normal)
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Azteca is a hell-hole, the Mexican fans are brutal, and all I ask for is no injuries and no hooliganism on our part.

Mexico 3 - 1 USA (if we're lucky)

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:44 PM | unfortunately. . . you may be (Score:1)
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callin' it. Tough row to hoe. 

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August 15th, 2012 at 6:53 PM | Well it seems that the idiot (Score:5 Normal)
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Well it seems that the idiot who like to down vote soccer threads is back.  I accidentally upvoted the "viva mexico" post when I went to up vote every post in this thread.  Damnit.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 15th, 2012 at 6:56 PM | Iv never seen the National team (Score:2 Normal)
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play in person. Im thinking of going to see them play Jamaica in Columbus on 9/11. Anyone else considering going? Any tips on what kind of seats to get there?

If an OSU fan divorces his wife are they still brother and sister?

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:09 PM | It is worth it.  I can't (Score:3 Normal)
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It is worth it.  I can't really help you with the seating or anything, since I have never been to that stadium.

The good thing about Columbus is that it is a soocer-specific stadium so you wont see the football yeard lines or feel like the pitch is out of place.  If you want to sit with the "American Outlaws" or "Sam's Army" guys take a look at their websites.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:20 PM | Ill do that. (Score:1)
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Thanks

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:09 PM | Interesting line up.  I don't (Score:2)
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Interesting line up.  I don't like it, too many D Mids in the fold.  That and Boyd should be out there starting in a 4-3-3.  

USA has literally nothing to lose in this match, why not go for it all?

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:23 PM | Because European footy is (Score:2 Normal)
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Because European footy is about to start, so our best players (Dempsey, Bradley, Altidore, Boyd, Bocanegra, Dolo, Tim Ream) are not available. 

 

I agree that we should give some more exciting players a shot, like Luis Gil, but our roster for this game is from a limited player pool.

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:25 PM | what I'd like to see (Score:3 Insightful)
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Hopefully the US team will execute Klinsmann's game plan and keep their heads in the game for 90 minutes. I expect them to lose given their track record in Mexico and the absence of so many first-choice starters, but I'll be disappointed if they panic, lose their cool, or mentally check out of the game at any point.

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:44 PM | Well, no Joe Corona starting, (Score:1)
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Well, no Joe Corona starting, but I'm excited to see Johnson and Williams both.  Hopefully we can get something going early on, try to combat the crowd.  GO USA!

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:01 PM | Bad position for Williams (Score:1)
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Johnson has been serviceable but Williams is better as a winger instead of defending. Need his speed farther up the field.

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August 15th, 2012 at 7:56 PM | Good god -- did you see that (Score:1)
Wolverine In Iowa
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Good god -- did you see that temptress?

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August 15th, 2012 at 8:14 PM | Mexico fans remind me of Sparty (Score:1)
Wolverine In Iowa
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"Puto" when Howard boots the ball...close call for a goal there by EEUU.

GO USA!!!

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August 15th, 2012 at 8:22 PM | Azteca looks almost empty. (Score:1)
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Azteca looks almost empty. There were more Mexicans in attendance at the match in socal, a LOT more..

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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August 15th, 2012 at 8:23 PM | Impressed with Azteca (Score:1)
Wolverine In Iowa
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I thought it was just benches.  Looks semi-respectable (minus the fans).

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:04 PM | 70,000, they're saying, (Score:1)
MGlobules
Joined: 11/17/2008
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stadium obviously not full. 

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:17 PM | I have been there... (Score:1)
Michiganguy19
Joined: 07/05/2008
MGoPoints: 719

50 year old place, all concrete... has some nice amenitites for the wealthy. The US fans sit in a steel cage and get spit on/stuff thrown at them.

Like OSU without US law and a really large amount of cultural hate. Also its 350 US fans v. 105K+whoever pays cash to squeeze in at the gate.

'Cause I Bleed Blue...

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:01 PM | Those are basically home (Score:2)
ken725
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Those are basically home games for Mexico.  

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 16th, 2012 at 12:23 AM | Not to belabor the obvious, (Score:1)
ForeverVoyaging
Joined: 09/24/2011
MGoPoints: 262

Not to belabor the obvious, but there might actually be more Mexicans in SoCal than in many parts of Mexico proper.

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August 15th, 2012 at 8:59 PM | Half time (Score:1)
T-town Wolv
Joined: 12/01/2010
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Back line was solid for the most part, being as makeshift as it is. Biggest problem at half? Finding a way to control possession for more than a minute at a time. Also need to close down the easy passing lanes in the defensive third. All in all a solid half for a side without a lot of the top players.

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:36 PM | Big free kick now. Stand up! (Score:1)
SmackJack
Joined: 07/18/2012
MGoPoints: 257

Big free kick now. Stand up!

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:47 PM | Thumbs up: Fabian Johnson, (Score:1)
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Thumbs up: Fabian Johnson, Geoff Cameron, Luis Castillo

 

Thumbs down: Kyle Beckerman, Jermaine Jones, Jose Torres

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:55 PM | Beckerman tends to have (Score:2)
ken725
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Beckerman tends to have thumbs down games.  I can't even remember the last time he had a thumbs sideways (neutral) game.  When you see his touches you can tell why he is still in the MLS.  

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:53 PM | GREAT build-up play by Brek (Score:1)
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GREAT build-up play by Brek Shea,

 

every time I give up on him he reminds me that he still exists!

Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:53 PM | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!! (Score:1)
I Bleed Maize N Blue
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U-S-A!  U-S-A!!  U-S-A!!!

Michigan Resurgent?  Michigan Resurgent!

The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!

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August 15th, 2012 at 9:53 PM | Gooooooooooooooal!!!,! (Score:2)
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Gooooooooooooooal!!!,!

"Welllllllll..."

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