University of St. Thomas (MN) moves to D1 sports - notably hockey
Supposedly the first school to jump straight from DIII to DI, St Thomas is moving up to DI and is apparently just the 2nd DI school in Minnesota which was an oddity to me. Never knew Minnesota was the only D1 school in the state. The rumor is they are likely to join the new CCHA.
The University of St. Thomas has received approval from the NCAA to elevate its sports programs, including men's and women's hockey, to Div I. https://t.co/csSUQ2s0IY
— College Hockey Inc. (@collegehockey) July 15, 2020
The must change their mascot to the Fighting Duncan Robinsons.
And Minnesota-Duluth is also D1 in hockey, as we should all (unfortunately) know.
St. Cloud State. Bemidji State. Minnesota State.
The Screaming Eagles???
Yes, but they are not NCAA D1 schools. They are all DII but play DI hockey. Minnesota, and now St. Thomas are the only DI schools.
A lot of schools are D1 in hockey but aren’t D1 schools. Minnesota is (currently) the only D1 school in their state.
Minnesota has three other D-1 hockey schools besides UM Twin Cities: Duluth, Mankato, and Bemidji, not to mention UND just across the border.
Those are not D-1 schools, though, they just play D-1 hockey. I believe all 3 of those are Division II schools. There was, until today, only 1 school in Minnesota classified as Division I.
But yes, North Dakota and North Dakota State, both right across the border from Minnesota, are Division I schools.
DI hockey, yes. But not DI athletic programs. There is a difference, and it is what OP is referring to.
They have more than just those three, but as others have mentioned, Minnesota is the only D1 school. Having a single d1 program doesn’t make you a D1 school.
I just hope everyone has fun.
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The post says it’s elevating its sports program. It doesn’t say everything is moving to D1 only hockey. Everything else might be D2
They have announced that they are moving their entire athletic department to Division I starting in fall 2021.
Sorry for the double post.
Interestingly, in the last decade or so, Division II got a rule passed that only schools that had been in Division II for 10 years or more were allowed to move to Division I. That rule still exists, but obviously if you can get a waiver there isn't much point to the rule.
Division II is slowly becoming obsolete. If you want to give scholarships, you might as well move to Division I and join one of those lower-tier conferences like the Horizon or the Summit or whatever. If you don't want to give scholarships, Division III is great. You have to start wondering what the point is of Division II.
Can the jump to FBS and replace Rutgers? Asking for a friend (aka. the entire B1G).
Just want to add in that they got the waiver for a very specific reason - their conference, the MIAC, sent them packing at the end of next year. Basically, all the other schools got tired of getting their asses handed to them in every sport, and voted to eject them (except for their main rivals, St. John’s).
My read on this - people long run will be more upset about losing Tommie-Johnnie as opposed To being in D1 (at least until they make the big dance), but they really didn’t have a choice in the matter.
St. Thomas once belonged in the MIAC, but they quickly outgrew the small school DIII conference. Their enrollment was by far the largest. They have numerous postgradute programs. Their resoucrces are far more extensive in every way than every other MIAC school. Not to mention, their Head football coach ran up the score countless times on these much smaller schools and programs. So if he wants tougher competition, he's got his wish. I hope he can recruit DI level kids.
I played football in the MIAC at Carleton College in the mid 2000s. St. Thomas was an average football program every year and was not a basketball powerhouse either. Their success is all recent, over the last decade. They were not a historically dominant DIII athletic powerhouse.
"The University of St. Thomas has received approval from the NCAA to elevate its sports programs, including men's and women's hockey, to Div I."
Thats, uh, pretty clear in saying all the sports programs are elevated to DI.
It quite clearly does say they’re moving all sports to D1. I mean... if you understand how commas work it’s clear anyway.
Fish don’t fry in the kitchen...
beans don’t burn on the grill...
take a whole lotta tryin’...
just to get up that hill
Tommies rule, Johnnies drool
As far as I’m aware there is no D2 for hockey. It goes from D1 to D3
I don’t know if that’s correct. I work at a D-II school and we have a hockey team. It plays other D-II schools (unlike those D-II schools in MN that play D-I hockey).
There is no official DII for men’s hockey. I think there is one league that is the last remnant of DII but they essentially play in DIII. There is no DII tournament at the NCAA level so most are playing up or down a level.
There at one time was a D2 for hockey but they discontinued that division.
Yes, lhglrkwg, that's pretty much it. D-II hockey is still a thing. It exists but--and it's a very big but--there is no NCAA D-II hockey tournament any more. That only means that the schools at the D-II level can't play for a national championship.
The 7 schools in the Northeast-10 are the only remaining D-II hockey schools: Assumption, Franklin Pierce, Post, St. Anselm, St. Michael's, Southern New Hampshire, Stonehill.
Ahh—I work at one of those schools. Didn’t realize the NE-10 was the last holdout.
I live a few blocks from St. Thomas, will this make my house value go up or down?
It will be funny to watch a school go from being the bully to getting it’s ass kicked on a regular basis.