Shotgun formation

Submitted by Ali G Bomaye on November 21st, 2022 at 12:01 PM

As we know, the passing game has been inconsistent this year, particularly once we got past the tomato-can portion of the schedule.

Last year, we used shotgun formation close to 100% of the time. Analysis has consistently shown that shotgun formation is more efficient, particularly in the passing game. This is likely because the QB is facing the defense during the whole play, starting right after the snap, and doesn't have to worry about dropping back significantly, so it's easier to read what the defense is doing. This year we're going under center much more.

Using 100% shotgun certainly played to Cade's strengths as a guy who is good at reading the defense pre-snap and getting the ball out quickly. Given JJ's inconsistency in the last few games, I'm wondering whether a heavier dose of shotgun could help him too. 

Thoughts?

MGoGrendel

November 21st, 2022 at 1:20 PM ^

Cade wasn't a runner, so putting him in the gun allowed for all the footwork/view things the OP mentioned.  I think they have JJ go both under center and from the gun because he's more versatile.  They can run or pass from either set up.

But, that's all from the email response I got... 

stephenrjking

November 21st, 2022 at 12:11 PM ^

I was an all-gun guy, but some people that are smarter about football than me disagree.

https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1577665506550718464?s=20&t=2Ch82EGxBKSEaoycuJ-MOA

stephenrjking

November 21st, 2022 at 12:40 PM ^

One of the challenges that I will acknowledge with all-gun looks is that there are certain plays that aren't available from the gun, such as QB sneaks. But you really need to have a package of plays under center to be able to run stuff like that, because otherwise you're telegraphing the play and your QB and center aren't used to the exchange. 

I think the gun still offers a lot more benefits, but... these guys know what they're talking about, and Michigan's offense has been heavy gun for years now, and the Baltimore offense Michigan is drawing a lot of its stuff from is heavy gun too. This isn't just Harbaugh being needlessly conservative; they think they are gaining something by using under center on occasion. 

Note that even OSU has some under center built into its offense. I think we may have reached the natural limit of how much gun you can including in your offense without leaving stuff on the table. 

Carcajou

November 21st, 2022 at 6:28 PM ^

Besides the added stress to the center, especially dealing with a NG hitting him right away, under center the QBs eyes can be totally on the defensive backfield (especially the safeties) the whole time getting the snap and dropping and he can compare the pre-snap with the post-snap reads more quickly, whereas in the shotgun even if he is able to split his vision, it will not be as good. Famously, Brian Griese was unable to handle this when he got to the pros.

Also, because he knows where the laces are and the footwork is consistent, the timing of the QB dropback is more precise when dropping from under center, whereas in gun he has to be a little more tentative with his footwork and timing as he has to catch the ball and find the laces.

JonnyHintz

November 21st, 2022 at 7:58 PM ^

Last year, we used shotgun formation close to 100% of the time.
 

Do you have any actual data to back this up or are you going off memory? I don’t think there’s really any real difference in the amount of shotgun vs under-center snaps this year compared to last year. But I could be wrong.