Rules on Barwis & contact w/ players now
What are the rules regarding coaching contact with players outside of the season and Spring Football? What is RR allowed to do now, prior to Spring Ball? The rest of his staff?
I am particularly interested to know if there are restrictions on Barwis? It seems like it would be reasonable to the NCAA that athletes have what amounts to a personal trainer helping in general fitness, so that they don't injure themselves, or waste time building muscles that don't help on the field. Is Barwis having a full impact on the freshman who have already enrolled, especially Campbell? I would guess that all those who have been through a year of conditioning know what to expect, and already are having an impact on incoming players. As an aside, how much will Barwis have an impact on Forcier? If Forcier can throw and think and knows the playback and can react quickly in gametime situations, how much does his strength matter, other than being basically fit.
I'm curious if Barwis has given a workout regimen to incoming freshman still in high school. For instance, you can do an awful lot with that big torture ball (see recent vids of this on this very site.) Will Ricardo Miller and Jeremy Jackson be allowed to use the Michigan weightroom this summer? Can they practice with the current team unofficially, even though they'll be at Huron in the Fall? I remember having the sense that Harbaugh picked up an awful lot just by being around the team via his dad.
When does Spring Ball begin?
As far as offseason workouts are concerned, the strength and conditioning coach can work with the team a set amount of hours per week. Players are allowed to do team activities (7 on 7) as much as they want provided a coach isn't present (they usually are or are looking on from above). Then in the spring the team is allowed I believe 17 practices (full pads, you name it). Again in the summer coaches aren't allowed to work out with the players, however the Barwis can work them out.
*Coaches are allowed to work with the players in the off season as long as a football is not present. I think there is even video of Meyer working with Tebow and he is holding his t-shirt like it's a football.
I don't believe future players are allowed to workout with the team until they have graduated High School and are enrolled in the University. So although Miller/Jackson will probably get copies of the work outs and can do them this summer on their own, they won't be able to work out with the team until they finish high school either in the winter or the spring.
The HS players cannot participate in practices or be on campus unless visiting (for recruting purposes). I played D3 and the week after I committed I had the workout program in my mailbox, so it is safe to assume that the kids in HS have something similar (if not the same) to what the team is doing.
I believe (if I am wrong I am sure someone will corect me) that Barwis is not considered a member of the Football Team coaching staff per the NCAA so he can be with them when they are working out, and so on... The players do have unofficial workouts like 7 on 7, etc... that the coachs cannot be at (but they usually are "around"). I cannot remember the exact rules on contact but I believe that they cannot have any football type activities that they (the coaches) are running.
If you don't mind, where did you play?
Concordia University... it is about 7 min west of Downtown Chicago. Sister school to the one in A2. We were not very good. But when I went to Adrian and the players were like "we go to Toledo all the time..." I was like Chicago will be a nice place to spend 4 yrs.
High School, or college? We played Adrian in football and their fans threw beer bottles at our bus. Stay classy Bulldogs.
College. They were recruiting me pretty good. I actually could have won a ring if I went there (they won the MIAA in 97 i think). but oh well. Going to shcool in Chicago was a blast! Where did you play?
I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as limits on "contact" between players and coaches at any time while the player is on the roster. It's practice itself that is restricted. As long as it's not "officially" a practice and it's "voluntary" offseason conditioning and they're not out on the field wearing helmets and such, Barwis can do his thing. I also doubt there's any restriction on Barwis giving the '10 class a workout regimen to voluntarily do on their own as long as such contact is made within the rules for recruiting, but I'd be extremely surprised if Jackson, Miller, etc. could actually use U-M facilities.
3/14, JR day is 3/13
Even during two a days there is a set amount of time that a football can be present. I know some teams get a walk through practice or formation work using a t-shirt or something to that affect.
What exactly does it mean to have a "football be present?" A rugby league ball is virtually the same size as a football but does not have pointed ends.
Could the coaches be present while they were doing running drills with a rugby ball?
I axed this question on other prem boards. During the off-season, coaches have a certain amount of hours a week they can spend with players in a "classroom" environment. This can not be a fooball practice, but they can do things like going over playbooks. Tate mentioned during one of his press conferences that he spends so many hours a week with Rod Smith going over the playbook. My question which is still unanwered is can they do this with Denard too? Someone mentioned that years ago, Tenn coaches traveled to Cali to prep Ainge before he enrolled.
I am dying to know what typical flow is for a Barwis Workout; does anyone know? I know generally he likes Olympic lifts, core/ball exercises, plyos,sprints, but what specifically does a typical workout entail? Surely someone in A2 might have spyed this out? I don't see why we can't know...Boren I'm sure has already detailed everything to Tressel... Phil