Quit livin' in the past: Historical Records/Opponents

Submitted by Mercury Hayes on February 4th, 2020 at 5:14 PM

Do you ever get in an argument with an MSU slappy that brings up Michigan's easy opponents in 1898 or 1911? It is one of many MSU arguments you can set your watch to. This offseason, I will aim to help educate fellow Mgobloggers on argument flowcharts to help shut down those from opposing fan bases.

Today we focus on the argument "quit living in the past". Much is said about Michigan living in the past, and currently MSU fans only allow reaching back as far as 2010 which was Mork's first 11-win season. If a Michigan fan were to mention this, the retort would be that Michigan played Albion a bunch in 1902 or something. The truth is, teams didn't travel back then and so everyone had some bums on their schedule. Here are some teams MSU played in the past along with their records against those schools.

  • Lansing High School 2-0
  • Michigan School for the Deaf 4-0
  • Port Huron YMCA 2-0 (they did the dance after every first down)
  • Chicago YMCA College 3-0
  • Saginaw Naval Brigade 1-0
  • Haskell Indian Nations 0-1 
  • Detroit Athletic Club 2-4-1
  • Michigan Freshman 4-0
  • Great Lakes NTS (I've also seen this listed as Great Lakes Coast Guard) 1-1
  • Scranton, PA 1-0 (Kevin Malone was their starting center)
  • Private schools, lots of private schools: Alma 22-5-4, Albion 11-4-3, Olivet 18-41, Adrian 4-0, Hillsdale 7-0, Detroit Mercy 8-6-1, Kalamazoo 8-7
  • A bunch of schools that may also just be street names including Ripon 1-0, Wabash 5-1-1
  • A married couple named William and Mary 1-1
  • Ft. McArthur 0-1 (not sure if they played against an actual Fort, or a military team, or the cafeteria workers on base)
  • Centre 1-1 (I think this team was 100% French Canadian)
  • Geographies: Ohio Nothern 1-0, North Central Illinois 1-0

 

 

 

ak47

February 4th, 2020 at 6:06 PM ^

The fact that msu played bums in 1911 doesn’t really matter because they don’t use history for their argument.

Michigans argument for being a blue blood is based on having the most all time wins, so we use those wins as part of our brand in a way only Nd really does. Msu fans are dumb but this doesn’t really do anything to counteract the argument that Michigan is just a good not great program since black people could play.

MGoGrendel

February 4th, 2020 at 6:50 PM ^

We beat the only teams available at the time.  No need to apologize!!  It’s not like the SEC was around and playing in Ohio and Michigan.
 

Imaging traveling in those days.  A rickety old train or a line 40 jalopies tooling down a dirt road were your Options.  

Blue-Ray

February 4th, 2020 at 6:26 PM ^

Uh oh... There's a storm coming!

I hope some wins are going on vacation or at the least Mork isn't bowing out even as gracefully as he's already failing to do so far.

Mr.Jim

February 4th, 2020 at 6:54 PM ^

Sorry. The current Michigan football program most definitely lives in the past. Stop showing clips from 1930, etc., during pre-game time in Michigan Stadium and I’ll begin to think otherwise. Go Blue!

I'mTheStig

February 4th, 2020 at 8:00 PM ^

Isn't this what Michigan does too... living in the past?!?!? re: stadium video productions boasting of "championship football".  Or claiming that historically we have a winning record against ohio even though Michigan is like 2-18 in their last 20 with them?

Not trolling, just sayin'.

nowicki2005

February 4th, 2020 at 8:23 PM ^

What's the point of this? For the last decade we have been a lesser program than MSU, Wisconsin, OSU, and PSU. That time frame is all that matters in college football seeing as how recruits weren't born in 1997 and they've never seen us come close to sniffing a big ten championship

LabattBlue

February 5th, 2020 at 8:54 AM ^

No, never got into an argument with anyone over this. 

Probably because I don't really care about pre-WW2 era football, and thankfully haven't met anyone else who does either.

So you did a multi hour Google-feast on pre-WW1 opponents?, for what.

Would seem like most folks talk in terms of their life-time, and all the Spartys I know, realize the record over the past 35 years.