"...don't believe something because an "expert" is saying it. Believe it because of the evidence."
OT WWE Night Of Champions at The Joe
I predict its all fake
Btw, the vernacular is predetermined.
Also, what those guys do is anything, but fake.
Get in the ring and see how "fake" it is.
Obviously those guys bodies get beat down. Everything other than the moves is fake though
sure, I need to first blood dope and shoot up with a combination of HGH and meth.
Did you google vernacular in order to use it? BTW, please don't give me a rock bottom for my comment. It would hurt too much.
Also, you missed an apostrophe while getting down from your high horse to make your original post.
Maybe you should use google next time...
...at least it's more realistic than the NBA (in that the storylines are scripted and the winners are predetermined, but the guys in the ring actually put forth a little effort to entertain the fans).
P.S. - obligatory "It's still real to me, damnit!"
What is "fake" about being body slammed? Sure, some moves don't hurt as much as others and the punching/kicking is usually not as hard as it would be in a street fight, but those guys get injured all the time. Professional wrestling takes a serious toll on the human body over time. Obviously it is scripted, but that is just part of the business.
You may have completely missed the point of my comment where I back up the fac that pro wrestlers actually put forth effort in entertaining their fans. I truly understand that these guys put their bodies through hell. A brawl at 3/4 speed is still a hell of a lot to put your body through. However, it is nonetheless "fake." The storylines are scripted, the outcomes are preplanned, the fights are choreographed.
It's like if I was to get a diamond ring that was beautifully handcrafted, but with simulated diamonds and nickel. I would still respect the craftmanship and skill required to make it and understand why others would buy and treasure it, but at the end of the day, regardless of the effort that went into it, it's still a fake diamond ring.
I mean, it's "fake" in the sense that a seemingly-immortal and supernatural Undertaker doesn't actually tombstone piledrive his half-brother Kane, a man capable of commanding fire to erupt from ringposts with his mind. I think people look at the theatrics and the spandex and default to "haha dumb rednecks" and feel that it is slightly homoerotic. Of course, go to a gym and you'll see Men's Fitness magazines everywhere with guys trying to get abs like the half-naked dude on the cover. Or they'll watch 300 and ignore the fact that most of the movie is a bunch of barely-clothed men kicking other guys and cutting off their CGI'ed limbs.
I agree that wrestling as a physical activity is incredibly real. Guys die from injuries at a rate you similar to former NFL players, and the concussion issue is as prevalent in the WWE as in any sport. Heck, Dolph Zigler basically lost his title because of a concussion. They are incredibly talented stuntmen who also can usually act and emote as well as most action stars.
I "predict" that all action movies and TV dramas are "fake," but I guess that probably doesn't stop you from liking many of them.
I'm not going to predicate stereotypes. Although you're making it easy...
I feel like a snarky comment about wrestling from someone on the internet comes with its own stereotypes...
The last time I watched wrestling, Mr. Perfect was making a living. How's he doing?
Edit: never mind, I don't think he's showing up tonight.
Curtis Axel (Joe Hennig), is wrestling tonight.
Great write-up by the Masked Man (aka David Shoemaker from Grantland) on Curt Hennig.
Is this the Breaking Bad thread? Come on Jesse!!!
My mind is blown....
i haven't watched wrestling since I was in the 6th grade and Goldberg was on a 100 match winning streak.
Need the distraction, and not all of us (wrestling fans) are sociopaths living in our moms basement.
Go CM Punk
Bubba and his guys got theyself's a double wide.
so Rybaxk came from under the ring (after Punk was beating the living hell out of Heyman) and drove Punk thru a table.
Wow there is still a WWF I had to google what the WWE is
The "wrestling" crap wasn't nearly as interesting as the little old ladies sitting at ringside who were going apeshit over the theatrics inside the ring. I've always wondered if they were paid by the promoters or were just as delusional as that sad fuck in the "It's real to me Dammit" video.
Now that name takes me back. I saw him at my local high school when I was in the 6th grade or somethig. He was so old he never let go of the rope. I'm not even making that up!
I like how PEDs are legal. Whatever you can find is OK to use. And those guys need it - they're on the road performing 200+ nights a year!
legal. The WWE has what's called the Wellness Program now. They actually suspended a ring announcer for violating it.
Yeah, honestly the Wellness Program seems to catch way more guys than whatever crap the NFL brings out. Or at least they promote it more often.
seem to pass the eye test now. You don't see WWE wrestlers that look like the Ultimate Warrior anymore.
Yeah. I watched some old Wrestlemanias and WCW/NWA events some time ago and you could see the syringe marks on some of the guys' arms. I mean, I'm sure some are still juicing, but the differences in body types is far more believable. I think now the bigger issue is pain reliever abuse, which is an issue all major sports are dealing with.
If you ever need some good laughs, follow The Iron Sheik on twitter.
People still argue over whether it's fake or real? It's a soap opera on steroids. It's about the story lines and plot twists, pure entertainment. These are actors who do their own stunts. Like any movie with stunt men, the stunts are real but the movie is fake.
Daniel Bryan won! I'm happy.
Orton has been my favorite wrestler since his 8 month IC title reign in Evolution. Plus, D Bryan doesn't seem like a heavyweight champ to me...kinda like how I liked Mysterio, but hated him as world champ
Daniel Bryan is such a worker it's nice to see it pay off for him. He wrestled in empty gyms and for now he is the holder of the biggest title in wrestling. Pretty awesome. I felt the same way when CM Punk won the title
I like how this post has 26 comments but none actually relate to, you know, NOC.
I love the MGoBlog community most of the time, but every week people have posts about whatever prestige show is currently running and nobody says "why the hell are you so into a fake show about Meth dealers, gangsters during Prohibition, advertising executives in the 60s, etc? You know it's all fake - Bryan Cranston really isn't a brilliant chemist who also is the one who knocks." But gawd forbid someone wants to talk about professional wrestling and everyone has to come out with the "hurr hurr you know it's fake. They all use steroids! Bunch of dumb hicks watch it."
Again, this place exploded yesterday when a bunch of teenagers and early 20-somethings nearly lost a football game. We salivate over whether HS seniors will choose us (yes US!) over some other school, and we act liked jilted little kids when we don't get what we want. So before everyone acts superior to a couple of us who enjoy the "absurdity" of professional wrestling, how about we all look in the mirror? And before anyone calls me a hypocrite, I get my fandom of UM is patently absurd and accept that. And in terms of recruits, I have never had a particularly strong affinity toward that part of the system because of the illogical emotions it tends to invoke in people.
That said, on to the main event.
Caught a stream of the card (bought Summerslam last time, and my wife definitely wonders if I buy more than a couple a year). The card looked decent on paper but I figured there would be some smoz endings to keep storylines going through the fall until Hell in a Cell.
Was surprised to see Del Rio hold onto the WHC just becaue he can't generate enough heat to melt an ice cube and Van Dam has been pretty hot since his return. Plus, if they want to give it a run with some other heel, you need an easy transition champ.
Diva match was crap, but what's new? Did think the Miz and Fandango match moved reasonably well, but both of these guys just seem "there" in a way that is a death knell for careers. The Punk-Axel match was predictable but fun, and I like the idea of Heyman getting Ryback to watch his back now with Axel failing so often.
Bryan winning the title back seemed unbelievable to start, but he was booked strong in this match and I guess it progresses the storyline. The ref's quick count will definitely be brought up tomorrow.
Overall, an okay card, but kind of happy I didn't plop down the money.
the ringside announcers say anything about the quick count?
I don't believe so, but the immediate response online was that it would probably be brought up. Also, like Chekhov's gun, an extended ref bump introduced early on must lead to something in the end.