If there is one thing in this world I cannot stand, it's fucking soccer, all right? And I hate when people do it around me.
Then why bother posting in a thread about soccer?
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Because no place in the ops description does it mention soccer or even OT, which it absolutely is. Therefore, he's already spent the time clicking, so...
And the thread wasn't even 10 posts in length when he posted, which took maybe 2 minutes to read. Hence.....why bother posting something snarky in a thread about a topic one doesn't care for?
I'm not a soccer fanatic, but Barca V Juve meant soccer to this poster.
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You're fuckin' out
You're fuckin' out!
How clever - is that really the best you can come up with?
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I'm a star poster. I'm not tryin' to be the best at fuckin' comebacks.
Out of curiosity, what exactly did you think "Barca or Juve" was referring to when you clicked on the thread?
And what about the millions of Europeans and South Americans and Asians who say the exact same thing about YOUR fave sport. I guess you simoly know a lot more than they do, and because of the purely random event of you being born in America your opinion is better than theirs. We are so blessed to have the smartest and most important man on the planet posting here. Bless us with more of your musings, oh Great One?
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Have to lean Barca to win, but I'll be pulling for Juve
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"Uhhhh-huh huh, huh-huh....huh-huh....what's he talkin' about Beavis...?"
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Força Barça
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Barca 3-1. messi scores twice.
JUVE ALL DAY
Pirlo and Buffon riding off in the sunset potentially with a UCL Victory would be amazing.
I worry about Chiellini's injury and what that'll do to the defense tho.
Having an Italian team win would be a nice change of pace for UCL considering the trifecta of Barca, Bayern and Real run the sport atm.
Watching cast offs from United and Real in Pogba and Morata win the UCL would be priceless too.
GC is a great defender, but his style of play is very agressive and is always a gamble in UCL. Juve needs to be perfect to win, which makes Barzagli a better option for this game.
What worries me is what they'll do if Zag has to sub out. Also, Lichtsteiner.
Vidal, Pogba and Tevez are going to have to set the tone for Juve. I don't think they will win in their typical defensive fashion. They're gonna need some firepower.
Mostly because my wife is Italian.
¡Força Barça!
Barcelona 4-0.
would bet on Barca.
Pogba
Barca.
A bad day for Juve. I predict a 2-1 Barça win.
I love the games of Pirlo and Buffon but it's hard to see Barca losing. Everyone talks about the big offensive three but Iniesta is the second best player on this team.
My one stickler about Messi being GOAT is that he essentially plays with the #3, 4, 6 and 7 players in the world on his own damn team.
Like what all-time player's stats wouldn't be boosted playing with that kind of caliber of teammate?
While true, Messi is on another planet, he is the GOAT in my opinion. Besides Ronaldo, who is #2 in my opinion, there is a signifcant drop off from 3 on.
That's the landscape of Soccer in the 21st Century. The best players all play on a small handful of the richest clubs. Real Madrid is actually the worst example of this--since the days of di Stefano and Puskas, they have always hoarded as much of the best talent as they could get. True to this day.
What is remarkable is that even in this environment, the offensive results that Messi and Ronaldo produce every year is staggering. And they are producing in the biggest games, at least for their clubs. Netting 60-70 goals in a season simply isn't done, and yet these two have been doing it for YEARS.
Many all-time greats have played with other all-time greats. It doesn't get results like this. The Messi-Ronaldo rivalry is a golden era of Soccer, one that we will tell our grandkids about. It's a pity that it gets so little attention in the States. This isn't just greatness, it's all-time greatness.
I always respected Barcelona in that their talent is mostly homegrown. They didn't start following the RM format until Ronaldinho essentially retired and Messi already established himself. Hell, they didn't have kit sponsors until 2011.
As an Arsenal and Dortmund follower as well, I despise oil magnets going all Yankees on the rest of the soccer world.... (looking at you City, PSG & Monaco)
I get what you're saying, but clubs having super-rich backers isn't a new phenomenon, nor is it just restricted to oil tycoons. And EPL clubs aren't exactly known for developing lots of homegrown talent.
The difference is... clubs like Bayern and Man U have history of winning tradition making them the superhouses they are now.
Real was just always rich and favored by Franco. Barca had insane national pride in the Catalonian independence movement, so they were always strong as well.
City and PSG especially have 0 winning tradition and just got swooped up by luck. Chelsea would be in the same boat a decade earlier.
PSG had a reputation as a underachiever prior to the Qatari takeover, true, but to say they had zero history isn't fair. They have the longest active streak in the French top flight, won the European Cup Winners' Cup once, and advanced as far as the semis of the CL. They have been one of the best-supported clubs in France for a long time.
Keep in mind, French clubs have historically been at disadvantage vis-à-vis their foreign counterparts because they have to undergo annual financial reviews by a government agency, which doesn't allow them to rack up hundreds of millions in debt like Man U, Real, Barça and others have. (And the government certainly won't underwrite their debt like the Spanish government did with Real.) For this reason, the top French players have historically fled for greener pastures (with Arsenal being one of the biggest talent poachers) when their clubs couldn't give them competitive salary offers.
For PSG, the financial playing field is now finally level with the big boys. They are the only top-flight club in a metropolitan area of 12 million people - by all means, they should be a giant.
They are also lucky Marseille fell off a cliff this century due to lackluster ownership after winning champions league in the 90s. Not to mention Lyon literally got scrapped for parts after running the 00s.
The word is magnate, and your comment is racist.
Why? Doesn't this comment also apply to Russian magnates?
What's a Juve?
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Had no idea what this topic was about until like 6 or 7 comments in.
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I don't see how Juve stands a chance today, but we'll see. I'm not a big soccer fan by any means but I'll be tuned in hoping for an upset.
Are those Junior Colleges or recruits?
(Never mind it's about soccer and not marked as OT!)
My head says Barcelona, but my heart says Juventus. Pogba becomes a household name today. (I mean, in some houses. Not Frito Banditos's house, apparently.)
But as previously stated in the thread, my wife is Italian. The 2006 World Cup was a dark time of non-stop talking about the greatness of Italy. I do not wish this to happen ever again (not even to my enemies). Thus,
¡Força Barça!
I mean... is she actually a Juventus fan? She could be an AC Milan or Inter Milan fan.... rivals... thus hate Juventus...
BUT they haven't been in Serie A since 1995. So whenever any Italian team of stature does something significant, I hear all about it. A LOT.
I've got the same head/heart split---pulling for Juve, expecting Barca.
Hating on soccer is nothing compared to the things I've done. I've killed people.
As a huge Tevez fan from his City days, and absolutely love his work rate, I can't help but think Barca has this. 3-1 Barca and a masterclass performance from the god amongst men, Lionel Messi!!!
I didn't watch much UCL and haven't seen Juve or Barca. (I watch EPL.). I am just looking forward to seeing two great teams for the first time.
As an aside, it's ironic that folks will spend time writing a comment about how they "wasted" 30 seconds clicking on a thread that they didn't know was about soccer.
Barca.
I was a Juve fan in my childhood, but the Calciopoly scandal made me hate them.
Add to that the fact that Messi is the greatest footballer that ever kicked a ball.
I have been waiting to see them against a compact, defensive Italian side for years, though, so the matchups will be interesting.
Calciopoli was shady as hell, but people forget AC Milan, FIorentina and Lazio's involvement. Not to mention the ridiculous bullshit involving Inter manipulating the situation.
Irriducibli Laziale. Why bring other clubs into this? Juve got blatantly obvious with it. Whistleblowers after the fact got others involved.
This is MgoBlog fergodsakes. Title should have read: "WHO YA GOT??
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