OT: Tigers call up Wilkin Ramirez
My fellow Tiger fans will remember his debut earlier this year where he hit a HR in his first career game. Casey Fien was sent back down. Thoughts on this? I was talking to tricks574 on MSN and he wondered if this is a precursor to a waiver trade involving Ryan Raburn. I speculated maybe they want someone not named Magg's to face the lefty pitcher tonight. Any thoughts on this move?
Cut MAGGS!!! NOW!!!!
Not to be a dick, but your posts really don't add much of anything to the blog. At least add something to your crazy yelling as to WHY the tigers should cut him. Mention the huge paycheck, the slumping power numbers, the hair...anything.
What hair? You're crazy! Magglio doesn't have hair!
Chances are nothing will change
"I'll take that under advisement"
wut
Not everyone needs to add as much to the forum as Dave from Wyoming. There is plenty of room for smartasses, even shitty ones.
Would anyone really want Ryan Raburn?
Every time I think of him I picture him running around the outfield like a rabbit with its head cut off.
I think Raburn has some value, especially since he seems capable of playing a number of positions. If I'm the Tigers, though, I rather keep him and find a way to move Ordonez, since I'm fairly certain we'll see his name on that MLB steroid list before the season is done, and his play has deteriorated enough that he simply is not a good option beyond a platoon.
anyone is taking Ordonez. The only move is to cut him. Also, I don't think the steroid listing is any reason to move a player. The reason to rid yourself of him is a huge contract and the fact that he's 35 and deteriorating.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:21 PM ^
No, I agree. I never expected anyone to take his contract - I just want him to sit so that his option does not kick in for next year. As for the PED tests, I just think it might be a better option for him to be on the bench/not in the public as much in case that list is leaked.
And he might clear waivers. Its gotta be either a precursor to a trade, or to releasing maggs. They wanna see if he's able to fill in as a righty bat to compliment thomas, so it makes sense that, if he's ok, they would get rid of one.
He did hit that walkoff vs the cubs earlier in the year
I had heard from various sites (I know very ambiguous, espn tigers board, MLB tigers site) that Wilkin was doing ok at AAA, but not great. A high number of K's w/ a .270's BA. At the big league level those are decent especially if there is some power, but once again, those were from AAA.
I welcome any change right now. The worst that could happen is he hits into a bunch of DP's, lots of K's, and once in a while he'll run into one. Last I checked, that's exactly what the Tigers already have, so I think this move is a wash. Maybe they'll catch lightening in a bottle with him.
since we haven't really gotten a chance to actually watch him play, that Ramirez is fast too. Last I checked, he had around 29 steals. He can fill a void as a speedster coming off the bench late in games if needed.
He's hitting .274/.351/.455 in 347 AB's with 116 (!!!!) K's. He may have a hard time keeping his BA over .240 in the majors right now.
you'll have to excuse chitown and his relentlessly negative attitude about the tigers - he's a mets fan, so he has a crack addiction, inferiority complex, and giant mustache that cuts off circulation to his brain.
You just wish that your mustache was as hojo-rific as mine.
Poor, poor Mets fan.
How many Mets does it take to do the laundry?
Just one, but if there's any folding to do the whole team shows up.
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The improved speed will help in the outfield. He'll probably get to far more batted balls then Ordonez (that's not hard, I know).
IIRC, in his first game up he went 1 for 3 with a homerun and 2 K's
I would be impressed if he could get to the non-batted balls as well.
I'd like to put in writing that I can't WAIT to see Scott Sizemore called up. Maybe we have the 2nd basemen of our future waiting in the wings?
I think it is a done deal that he is our 2nd basemen for the next few years. Since PP is a free agent at the end of the season.
should be signed for another two years. He brings a lot of intangibles to our team both at bat and on the field. He is a tough out, rarely strikes out and does not make errors.
Yeah, I would like them to resign him, but I'm not sure they want to pay him, especially with potentially $40 million in dead weight for next year.
While Ramirez could potentially be used as a left-handed bat on a semi-regular basis, there are now only 11 pitchers on the roster.
That said, Fien was atrocious in his limited time on the roster. It may be that the Tigers don't have anyone else in the Minors who they're that excited about filling a seventh slot in the bullpen, and want to give Ramirez a chance to compete for a spot in the hope that this will somehow boost the offense.
That said, hopefully they intend to make some kind of move via waivers, as there are serious holes in both the bullpen and the lineup.
I think 12 pitchers is overkill anyway, even though it seems to have been adapted as the standard. The 12th guy nearly always sucks, and is used as a matter of last resort.
Also, the bullpen is not a huge issue:
Miner 4.58
Ni 2.70
Seay 3.30 ish
Lyon 3.22
Perry 3.63
Rodney 3.52
Those are by memory. I didn't feel like looking it up. But the pen is fairly solid.
October 11th, 2009 at 11:27 PM ^
they didn't make it
Remember the days when teams didn't carry 12 pitchers on their roster? I still think 14/11 is a better roster construction, that 7th pitcher in the pen hardly ever pitches or is some one-out guy that you don't really need to have. You're better off with the flexibility to play platoons in the lineup and have some pinch hitters available (or someone to run).
and if the pen needs help, we can always just send someone down later. I like this.
Well Ramirez is batting leadoff and playing left. Rayburn in center, and Ordonez in right. This defense scares me bc Washburn is a flyball pitcher.
Not a smart move by leyland, sit your best OF, and start 1 mediocre to bad, and 1 ludicrously bad OF at each corner? Especially with washburns fly ball tendency...don't be shocked if you see a lot of the hits drop in.
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