OT: North Dakota Fighting Hawks release first logo
Fighting Irish is an old derogatory term to describe Irish people. They should change that. As a person of Irish heritage it bothers me that they use this name. /s
Kind of stupid overall when you can have the Seminoles of FSU and because a few people have their feelings hurt NDSU has to change their name.
Glad to see that the Washington Post did their survey on the Redskins name and found 90% of native American Indians could care less about the name pretty much killing that faux issue.
which i despise
so this seems like a just retribution
I have been to Ralph Engelstad arena many times. It is one of the nicest arenas I have ever been in. When it was built, they put so many indian heads in the arena, it will be impossibly to take them all out. They were in the railings, marble floors, and just about every possible place. I thought the nickname and logo was great. I hate to see it go.
The Ralph is indeed one of the best, if not the best end-to-end facilities in college athletics. It's a palace.
Yet just as you've indicated, it came behind the donation of an objectively offensive human being. Ralph Engelstad was a casino mogul who had a number of really questionable personal beliefs, not the least of which was an admiration for Hitler. The guy had a "war room" displaying his Nazi collection in his casino, and even threw Hitler birthday parties, complete with Engelstad dressed in a Nazi uniform. Bundle that with his unabashed support, if not obsession for retaining the Fighting Sioux name and insignia, and you've got a really complex and uncomfortable situation.
The website was taken down. Not sure how many they sold.
Looks like they forgot to trademark it.
I'd buy one of these in maize and blue for each day of the week and wear my Sunday one to church.
It's simple and sleek with a minimum of colors. I like it, but share the concerns of how it would look against a darker background.
At the end of the day I am glad they made a switch to a mascot that is simple but still a good one for sports, some of the ideas getting thrown around were way on the far side of awful.
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Bottom line -- first team to adopt a SW mascot, BEFORE they get your fandom, they first get a Cease & Desist letter from Disney's lawyers.
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It's not awful, it's just a bit generic. It could be a trucking company or something.
Does nothing for me. At the Michigan/N. Dakota hockey game the ND fans still wore their Sioux gear and waved the flags. Much better than the Hawks.
The Washington redskins and Cleveland Indians however I would support a change.
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Yawn.
The old design is, and will always be, prominently displayed throughout the Ralph.
but I think they could've used the same generally portrait to make a nice Hawks logo out of the Sioux logo. You have some decoration on both sides of his head. Make a similarly positioned logo where those are both wings to a Hawk. Helps speak to the past but still makes the change if that's what you want to do
their fans start calling them the hawks. Saw them play hockey in Denver last year and all their fans kept yelling go Sioux. I was like who the hell is that, your the Hawks. Have a nephew who attends school there and even he said it's a little ridicuolous how fans won't let Sioux go.