OT - England crashes out of their Group . . . the EU that is.

Submitted by M-Dog on

England, along with the rest of the UK, have voted to leave the EU.  Nobody thought they would do it, but they have.

Stock market's going for a ride boys.

Lot's of coverage on www.BBC.com

Interesting day to be an England fan at the Euros, no?

 

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The Mad Hatter

June 24th, 2016 at 7:47 PM ^

For a couple hours and things get nasty and personal up in here! We were having a mostly polite and reasonable discussion with a few jokes. Then you partisan dicks had to go and ruin it. For my last comment on the subject I'll just say that this whole thing is going to be much ado about nothing. Britain will negotiate favorable trade deals with EU members and clamp down on immigration a bit. There will be little if any lasting damage to the UK economy. Maybe Scotland leaves, but I doubt it.

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drawdown400

June 24th, 2016 at 9:50 PM ^

Hey fellow mgobloggers....this comment has nothing to do with the OP but considering I can never remember my password/username long enough to accumulate enough points to post on the board myself, I'm left to commenting. So disregard this if you're solely concerned with brexit...

For as long as i can remember, I've dreamed of going to Michigan, like so many of us on here...I had the chance to go to Michigan for undergrad but had to pass it up for a variety of complicated reasons, but I held onto my dream, and earlier this month I applied to Michigan med school. I didn't just apply willy nilly, I'm a qualified and competitive candidate - the prospect of earning admission to the greatest school in the world has motivated me beyond belief for the past four years. But michigan's prestige also means that everyone that has a shot at going to Michigan is qualified and competitive - to actually get in, I need something that sets me apart. Obviously I've been working on "setting myself apart" for years now, but if anyone has any advice for the rest of the application process (secondaries and the interview, specifically), I would be so appreciative if you shared it with me.

As always...go blue!

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gopoohgo

June 24th, 2016 at 11:55 PM ^

Hi.  I'm a physician who is a little tipsy.  Yaaaaay bourbon.

You need to do some deep introspection to figure out why the hell you want to go into this field.

After that, the personal statement becomes like a best man speech.  Short.  Funny anecdote.  Round it off with heart-warming/tear-jerking introspection, and you are golden.

Interview: It's allllll on you man/woman.  I interviewed/sat on comittees for med school and residency; just like the interwebz, you are looking for someone who is articulate, appears sincere, and knows what the hell they are talking about.   Once you get your "foot in the door" with your baseline stuff (grades, test scores, etc), it really is about you.

Good luck!  So glad I'm not in your shoes!

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Roanman

June 25th, 2016 at 8:02 AM ^

Have just glommed on to the notion and likely fact that the best and most accountable government is that which resides closest to your home, and that the further the government is located from your house, the worse and more unaccountable it becomes. This is true if only because the guy behind the counter(regardless of sex) is a lot more likely to have to run into you at the supermarket after work, but also because he's there living the consequences of his decisions just like you are. All of Europe, with the possible exceptions of the Germans are suffering from the one size fits all approach required by unelected completely unaccountable beauracrats in Brussels. The intent of the European Union was always and remains the accumulation of financial power by a very small group of people for the benefit of that very small group of people. This is made clear by their actions, their words notwithstanding. This has also become the case in this country as the stench of the rot in our Federal government is readily apparent to just about anybody with a sense of smell. Which explains the rise of Bernie and The Donald.

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Sopwith

June 25th, 2016 at 8:39 PM ^

or "MEPs" (not to be confused with Moops) are elected by their home countries according to election rules set by those countries. European Commission and EU Council are appointed. All EU laws have to be ratified by the MEPs, so it's not "unelected and completely unaccountable."

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Sopwith

June 26th, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^

EC drafts proposed legislation and it both parliament and the EC vote on it in at least an advisory capacity depending on which legislative procedure is used, which in turn depends on subject matter. The EP has become more influential than it was at the beginning due to a series of reforms along the way.

 

The Single European Act (1986) and the Maastricht, Amsterdam, Nice and Lisbon Treaties successively extended Parliament's prerogatives. It can now co-legislate on equal footing with the Council in a vast majority of areas (see Ordinary legislative procedure) and consultation became a special legislative procedure (or even a non-legislative procedure) used in a limited number of cases.

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I get the criticism and share in large part, but I also understand the need to have strong executive side to deal with the common market issues so you don't have a situation like in the U.S. where a single senator can put a hold on a nominee or hold up important legislation with a filibuster forever if he/she chooses. But to say it's totally unelected just isn't accurate.

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a different Jason

June 25th, 2016 at 8:09 AM ^

I didn't even know what Brexit meant until the day of the vote. The coverage on every US news channel showed groups who were campaigning for them to RemaIN. All day I never saw any coverage of the other side. I didn't read enough to see if anyone else posted this.

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Roanman

June 26th, 2016 at 12:56 PM ^

As laws are passed by elected MEPs, but regulations are created by unelected beauracrats much as they are in this country. It is the behind the scenes anti democratic process along with the loss of control of national currencies that is responsible for the ongoing demise of Europe. The argument having to do with they did it to themselves borrowing themselves into oblivion makes my case. Debt levels for membership were set by law and treaty, then we're subsequently bent if not completely ignored by regulation and practice. A glorious idea sold as a means of guaranteeing peace on the continent has been poisoned by the greed of a few. Sad.

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