Maybe it's time for JUCO players?
We need players on D that can play right now. I know that bigtime programs shy away from them, but I've seen plenty of programs build with JUCOs while they develop their younger players. Isn't the QB for Oregon a JUCO transfer?
Maybe this is the bandaid that patches us next year until we can bring in some legit 3and 4 star players?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:20 PM ^
Yes, Masoli is a JUCO.
So far we've offered two guys that I know of: Wayne Dorsey (a defensive lineman) and Mike Harris (a cornerback). I don't think we have a great shot at either, but we'll see...
November 8th, 2009 at 9:22 PM ^
I remember hearing somewhere that one of the big reasons we don't get JUCO guys as much is because UM doesn't allow a lot of their credits from JC to transfer over.
Anyone have any further info on this?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:25 PM ^
its hard for JUCO guys to pass the academic requirements.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:13 PM ^
which determines the value of a degree from U of M, makes it very hard for JUCO credits to transfer in at face value. It would not be fair to admit someone for two remaining years of football eligibility who is three years away from graduation based on credits, so the Admissions Dept doesn't do it.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:31 AM ^
Are there any more specifics on this? Several engineering students I knew took required classes at WCC instead of U of M and got those credits transferred in; is there a cap on the total number of credits you can use to do this?
November 9th, 2009 at 12:35 AM ^
Pretty much everyone takes some classes outside of Michigan (I took E&M Physics at Eastern) it's that you can only transfer so many credits into Michigan and also a lot of credits don't transfer in besides "departmental credits" which gives you credits but doesn't get rid of pre-reqs. So you wouldn't be able to graduate on time.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:24 PM ^
it's very difficult to get their credits to transfer to umich. otherwise, there's no question we would have seen several jucos over the last two yrs.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:25 PM ^
1. Very hard for jucos to transfer to uofm
2. Jucos are a band-aid and are also not guarantees to be great either (see austin panter).
Jucos are a desperation move and are a band-aid over a huge wound. It'll stop the bleeding until the band-aid gets ripped off after a few days
November 8th, 2009 at 9:26 PM ^
had a critical personal foul penalty in the HORROR.
So we can't say he never did anything.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:05 PM ^
That Panter sure never worked out for us. And wasn't he the national JUCO defensive player of the year when he got him?
November 8th, 2009 at 10:11 PM ^
So he was kind of a project more than other Juco's. The worst part was burning his first year and not red-shirting him. Terrible move on LC's part.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:39 AM ^
Walk-ons are a band-aid too, and I don't think great is what we're looking for. I also think that "desparation" and "huge wound" are terms that apply very well to our defense right now. It really comes down to the transfer requirements.
A minor undesirable side effect would be the Freep bitching about how Rodriguez is changing the culture by taking in academically unsound recruits, but that would be one of the most minor hypothetical problems we would have.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:44 AM ^
They aren't a quick fix. We are playing 2 underclassmen walk-ons. These aren't seasoned veteran Juco players these are young walk-ons who will play for us for the same amount of time that schollie kids will.
Playing a walk-on is most certainly not a band-aid.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:25 PM ^
Academics, these guys end up at Junior Colleges for a reason, and it usually isn't because they have smarts to succeed academically.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:17 PM ^
I knew the JUCO thing was academic and admissions related but what about FCS guys? I know its a desperation move and those guys aren't 1A for a reason but I'd imagine that they'd help shore things up quickly. Could probably get them to enroll early, too. Just a thought.