Lose for T. Law, trade staff to pats where he goes on to win a couple Super Bowls. T Law busts, classic lions.
Seemed inevitable once the option was announced. Totally makes sense and is the right choice.
Yeah, they’re not saying he opted out due to Covid19. This is either due to him testing positive or having a traceable exposure...so...not great?
Edit: I realize the above comments are discussing the relative merits of him opting out so maybe my clarification is more for the overall thread. It’s just the origin of this news item isn’t that Stafford opted out...yet.
Yeah, my bad. I was proposing it for him as a prudent option and didn't mean to imply he had already chosen that route.
Exactly. He is not opting out yet, it's that he's been directly or indirectly exposed. I do expect, because of Putin's reasoning, he will eventually opt out due to family risk. It only make sense.
My comrade's second point I disagree with though, I would tank for Fields before pretty boy Lawrence but that's a different discussion I'm sure will be rehashed a thousand times.
Wait...You think Lawrence is pretty?
Seriously? He's marketing gold in the NFL . Not sure why I got negged, but I'd take Fields any day from a franchise QB standpoint.
I'm not sure how good Fields will be in the NFL, he played on a stacked Buckeye Squad and when he went head to head against Lawrence, Trevor willed his team to victory.
He also, as a freshman, beat a loaded Bama team and destroyed them with his great play in the biggest game no less...give me Lawrence any day.
Keep drafting Buckeyes and the Loins will be tOSU north. Actually, not a bad option.
I will never understand why anyone, let alone a Michigan fan, gives OSU the credit and respect of putting the 't' in front of OSU - 'tOSU'. That's a made up thing that some WR said during Monday Night Football introductions. It is NOT part of the school's name - it's merely something they like to say.
Why give them that pleasure?
August 1st, 2020 at 10:17 PM ^
It's not respect, it's subtle mockery. They say "THE", so "t" is just "the." At least that's the way I use it.
August 2nd, 2020 at 12:41 AM ^
I kind of like the blatant mockery of THEEEEEEEE ohio.
August 1st, 2020 at 10:17 PM ^
To be honest, I always took "tOSU" as mockery. As an alumnus of another Ohio school (Miami University) that was around long before Ohio State was, the "The" in "The Ohio State University" has long annoyed me and deserves to be mocked.
Miami (NTM) was founded in 1809 and held its first classes in 1824; Ohio State was founded in 1870.
August 1st, 2020 at 10:20 PM ^
Agreed. I’ll definitely concede that Fields has a higher ceiling because he’s a better overall athlete, but I take Lawrence over Fields right now because he is far more proven. He’s played in and won the big games. Fields hasn’t (yet) won the truly big games. Lawrence disemboweled Alabama as a true freshman, and has pretty darn good athleticism in his own right. Good enough to outrun a few OSU defenders anyway.
I guess it’s the age old question of whether you take the finished product or take the upside. If we have a complete season this Fall and Fields goes out and obliterates the competition and wins it all because of his own merits, I’d take him over Lawrence. But I take the more proven product right now.
Besides, who was the last OSU QB to accomplish anything of note in the league? There’s still time for Haskins, but everyone else in the last 20-25 years has been either meh or nonexistent.
Name a QB from OSU that has excelled in the NFL in the last 20 years.
Fair enough, I respect all of these opinions. It will be fun to see how it turns out.
I have a fairly decent QB spreadsheet covering everything from 1974 onward. This covers more than 11,000 games (regular season and playoffs).
I show 11 OSU QBs who have played in a game. Mike Tomczak (undrafted, 1985) is the start-wins leader with 45, Kent Graham (8th round in 1992) second with 17, and Tom Tupa and Troy Smith tied for third with 4. A grand total of 81 wins for teams starting OSU QBs.
UM has a college-best of 434, though much more than half of that total is a goat. The current coach is second with 68.
Purdue is second to Michigan at 383, and the top five rounds out with three Pac-12 schools in the low 300s.
Fields is a very good college QB. But I don't tank to get him to be my QB for the NFL.
Even WITH stafford, they will lose for Lawrence.
Stafford is a great qb. He got unlucky going to lions.
August 2nd, 2020 at 12:44 AM ^
Yeah right another stafford apologist and fan boy. He certainly knows how to WILL his team to victory or he knows how to CARRY a team on his back. Please stop with the he is on a bad team bit, which is partly true, but GREAT qbs occasionally do what I mentioned when it actually counts. He has NEVER done that, and NEVER will. Please don't spout off his 4th quarter comebacks as they are 90% of the time against teams they should beat. His record against teams .500 or better is less then 10%.
But please don't let facts get in the way of your argument.
I just wanna see Stafford win a super bowl. It'll probably happen on another team tho.
Superbowl?! I'd settle for one GD playoff win.
August 1st, 2020 at 10:17 PM ^
They got that in the 90s.
Someone made a really good point in another thread the other day.
If I’m Stafford, I sit this season out. You’ve got four kids, and a wife still recovering from brain surgery to have a tumor removed. Take your millions upon millions, take the year off and be with your family. Life is too short, and no one will think any less of you for it.
Also, you play for the Lions. Whether your play or not, you’re not making the playoffs anyway. Much less winning the Super Bowl.
All of the local media in Detroit are reporting that this means he either tested positive or was exposed to someone who had. It's not an optional designation on his part.
It's happening...
August 3rd, 2020 at 12:16 PM ^
Now the report is he tested positive but is asymptomatic.