Basil is kicking and punting apparently. He's keeping everyone on their toes, it seems. Urban stands creepily close.
Know Thy Enemy: Ohio Spring Game
I can't watch it (no BTN) but I am sure that Braxton Miller will cement his position as the frontrunner for the 2013 Heisman with this performance today.
Their OL looks terrible and Basil just missed three straight FGs terribly.
Apparently a lot of their fans were pissed about the game being at Cincy being it is a 4 hour drive.
And it's only two hours, but your point is still valid
I can imagine how pissed Michigan fans would be if they decided to hold our game in Grand Rapids.
Why the hell would they play in Grand Rapids? Are they gonna play where the GR Rampage of the Arena Football League played?
I dunno, why the hell would OSU play in Cincy?
Same reason Michigan had the '08 Spring Game at... Saline HS. ("Why the hell a high school?!?")
I'd wager that with the new interest in spring games, the BTN's televising them, etc., that Michigan would hold a spring game at Ford Field, or in Grand Rapids, if the situation arose again.
It benefits their program...exposure to alot of GREAT HS football schools in Cincy. Joe Bolden came from one those suburban cincy schools.
It is barely an hour and a half away.
A lot of buckeye fans and alumni live in Cleveland, maybe they were the ones complaining
Yeah. I can make it from my house in the northern suburbs of Cincy to Ann Arbor in less than 4 hours.
Secondary will be good this season. OL is experienced, idk how talented though. Missing depth & a RT altogether. Urban prefers 10 WR, 1 QB/RB.
Urban saying the D Line had struggled. I'm not gonna try to assess the validity of that, but if true, the amount of pressure they're getting on the quarterback is not a good sign for their offensive line.
They might go 0-12 this year. Braxton won't be able to stay upright in a single game /Spring game overreaction
Spence and Washington look very good
Against a bad offensive line.
Are they? They return 4 starters from last year.
drinking game. Drink whenever the announcers say Urban Meyer.
I will do this for the next November telecast featuring that coach.
Glen Mason: "The 'who' stage of this offense is done". No idea.
The whats are on the second string.
What I don't understand is, why couldn't Michigan have had their 2008 spring game at Ford Field? ohio is having theirs at an NFL Stadium due to their stadium being renovated.
Not that 2008 was a year to remember, AT ALL, but it still broke my spring game streak due to it being invite only for parents and higher up donors. Plus the weather was turrible that day and it showed in the score. They made it invite only due to it being at Saline HS which has a 1K seat stadium and the amount of people that would have showed up due to the new offense would have far exceeded the number of seats.
I bet if DB was the AD back then they would've played at Ford Field.
Considering everything that I read here about how that 2008 spring game went, I think it's fortunate that so few people saw it. Unfortunately, it definitely presaged how that season was going to go.
2008 ? Never happened..dont remember it
Is Ohio Stadium under renovation?
Urban Meyer says he can't win a National Championship till the stadium looks like this:
Then they have to turn the surrounding area into a teaming mess of stinking swamps, trailer parks and derelict government buildings recomissioned as high-end Days' Inns. THEN he can get it done.
Did they say a moment ago that Meyer has never coached a 1,000-yard RB? On that note, I haven't seen Brionte Dunn... though I haven't really been looking for him.
EDIT: Oh there's Dunn. I didn't recognize him in the shell of his former HS promise self.
I believe it's because they have renovations at their stadium.
If there is interest, LandGrantHolyLand more or less made a portal to their Spring Game coverage....
One thing about Braxton Miller - despite the no-contact rule here, the first quarter showed a bit of the 9.54% sack percentage flair thanks to subpar OL play.
Also, did anyone else feel no shock whatsoever when Gordon Gee mentioned that he spent most games aside from the Spring Game in the bathroom?
Translation: He masturbates to a photo of Jim Tressel during Ohio State football games.
watching the Buckeyes makes me want to punch myself in the dick
Probably turn out ok. Watch out for your balls, however. That might hurt a bit.
for having "a bit of a problem". Somehow totally forgetting his NCAA-violating team / HC and their bowl-ineligible team just a year ago
Spence and Washington will be very good, but not as good as Lewan and Schofield. I'm not too worried about that matchup.
This is, honestly, what I believe to be the most intruiging matchup of The Game. Can we establish a run game, and can we stymie Braxton Miller in order to halt their offensive production. Our DL should be much more stout and able to stuff most of the power attempts next season.
I don't know how much of a run game we'll establish. A lot of the games in the late 90s and early 2000s were wars of attrition in the trenches. I think you could see at least a partial return to that type of game. OSU has some extremely talented d-linemen and LBs. It all depends on how our interior O-line develops over the season.
Even for OSU offensively, they don't have that game breaking playmaker. Miller is a good runner but he isn't Denard and they don't have a Percy Harvin type receiver. I don't think our defense will give up too many big plays, though. Miller isn't the greatest passer.
It's hard to pick out an advantage that either team has at this point. Gardner looks great and I could see him having some huge games if he's given time in the pocket.
Absolutely got to limit big plays, but running the ball is the core of our offense. If we do that effectively last year, we win.
Running the ball will be huge, but Devin will have to make multiple plays in that game, especially if their front seven is all it's cracked up to be. Think of the throws Henson had to make in the 2000 game. I trust him to do that.
Braxton is every bit the playmaker that Denard was. He also has more help than Denard had at UM. He also is better with not turning the ball over.
He is not the same as Denard in the open field.
Regardless, there is no reason to overstate him or the team as a whole. We could've beat them last year and it'll probably be another close game next year and every year after so long as Meyer and Hoke are coaching. That's how The Game should be.
I agree with you on both points. Denard is better/quicker in the open field. We would've beaten Ohio last year with a true power back, allowing us to control TOP and set up play-action.
We would have beaten them last year if Borges didn't do a line at halftime and mess with the gameplan as a result.
Their "Percy Harvin" type is going to be Jalin Marshall. He'll only be a freshman, but he's gonna be a major pain in our ass for the next 4 years (if he stays that long).
I tend to agree but, I just happened to be watching the replay of the game earlier this afternoon and Washington beat Lewan for a sack and they both got pressure on Gardner all game. So, although on paper it seems we have the advantage they did fare well. Granted a lot of other factors go into that as it's not as simple as one-on-one matchups all game, but they did play well and Washington did beat Lewan 1-on-1 for a sack using a speed rush. Hopefully we can run at them so it's less of an issue.
And yet you dismiss the South Carolina game when Lewan completely neutralized Clowney? Do you think Washington is better than Clowney? Or could Lewan just have lost one snap in a vast pool of samples and that's the one you're focusing on and drawing grand conclusions from?
Are you referencing a previous comment, because if so you need to make note it in your comment because I have no idea where your comment is coming from. We are discussing the Washington/Spence matchup against Schofield/Lewan. What does that have to do with Clowney?
I said I agree that we appear to matchup well against OSU on paper, but I was providing evidence of us getting beat as well as OSU getting good pressure all game. I did not say Washington/Spence won the overall matchup. Are you saying that was the only time Washington or Spence beat Lewan?
Yes, I was referencing the Spence/Washington match-up. I interrepted your comment that we don't match-up well with Spence/Washington because you mentioned they got a lot of pressure. I rebutted that the sample was too small, i.e. one sack by Washington vs. Lewan, and that Lewan neutralized a much better defensive end than either the next week, to imply that I don't think they match-up was as bad you stated. Now, granted, your metric of 'pressure' is a bit nebulous, and I'm not sure you you define it, but the Spence/Washington combo last year in The Game only recorded one sack the entire game (the above referenced sack by Washington). Their lB's did have a couple of sacks, but that's not the match-up you presented. So I believe I have strong ground to stand on for my argument and that your evidence of OSU matching up well against us and getting pressure all game does not stand as valid based on the match-ups you provided.
I was only making an observation. I made no argument as to whether we won or lost the matchup. You are the only one making an argument and taking a stance. So, is your argument that if an offensive lineman only gives up once sack per game that's a win? What if all 5 offensive lineman each give up one sack, are they still doing well? I'm not sure what this strong ground is you reference in your argument, simply my lack of evidence?...because you haven't really presented any evidence of a Lewan/Schofield winning the matchup either. But, again I was making an observation, not an argument, hence only one example...kinda what an observation is.
did they play this in Cincinnati?
Renovations in Columbus
taking the bars off the windows at the penitentiary?
The toilet's clogged
you spelled cooler wrong.
Because Columbus is a whore.
Doesn't have the same ring to it.
I just want to know how BTN has a pre recorded show aring and it goes over time.
Wondering the same thing
The only tough game they have this year is us.
They play at NW. Other than OSU I think NW is our second most difficult game. I know our schedule is more difficult than theirs, but nontheless if we consider NW a difficult game for us we should also do so for them....ahh eff them they play a weak schedule!
They don't play Nebraska or Michigan State and I'm not sure what to expect from Wisconsin. Northwestern (and maybe Penn State?) is the only other possible threat.
Yup, agreed. Cal is their "featured" out-of-conference game and they will be heavily favored. They don't play Neb or MSU as you mentioned. I think Wisconsin is still a quality team, they bring back a lot of guys, but they still have question marks at QB and OSU gets them at home so you'd certainly expect them to win that game. OSU gets PSU and Iowa at home too, all games you'd expect them to win. They seem to have a pretty easy schedule. But, NW on the road won't be a cake walk for them and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them drop that game.
OSU has never really struggled with Northwestern, though. Their game at Purdue might actually be a "tougher" game because OSU has a history of struggling with Purdue in West Lafayette.
It's pretty frustrating that Urban Meyer (who was alreay deemed a quasi-deity by the media) is getting to cakewalk his way to two outstanding records in his first two seasons at OSU which will only fuel the Urban-is-a-college-football-coaching-god meme which will likely result in phenominal recruiting classes for OSU thereby increasing OSU's odds of having another decade long run of clobbering everyone in the B1G. If OSU had played UM's 2012 schedule they probably would have lost 3-4 games and the enthusiasm surrounding Meyer's return to the game would have been significanly dampened.
I know that Purdue has given them a tough game the past few years, but they lose a lot from that defense this year. And in all fairnress OSU hasn't played NW since 2008 and Pat Fitzgerald only got there in 2006, so they are going to be playing a completely different animal than their history would represent. Northwester has a good team is certainly up there as a favorite to win our division. I'm guessing that will be a close game.
If it makes you feel better OSU plays both Va Tech and Cincy in 2014 who should be decent. Then they have to go on the road to Camp Randall, Kinnick, and Beaver Stadium. It's hard to tell if any of those teams will be good in 2014 now but those are all tough places to play. And, then UM travels to OSU with 5th year senior QB and finally some upperclassman and depth on defense, although I'm not sure how our replacements for Lewan and Schofield will be yet, but it should be a great game. Anyways, if someone wants to displace them then they have to start beating them. We can't leave it up to anyone else or expect anyone else to do it for us. They aren't gonna hand it over or stop recruiting well.
What a surprise. Another easy schedule ahead. Thankfully, it's over. On to what matters.
Lewan should dominate everyone this year. Their interior DL isn't too good so it will cancel out with our interior OL.
CARDALE JONES STILL REFUSING TO PLAY SCHOOL
With the caps lock, I assume your angry about that?
You're not? It's very fitting, IMO.
BTN better not cut off a single fucking minute of the Michigan Spring game covering this Ohio shit that ran past nine.
Did anyone else see that OSU made championship rings for their undefeated season? I loled. I would have loved to have seen them play Alabama or Georgia. They would've been murdered.
I made a ring...for my poop this morning. Almost the same thing, right?
That depends. How big of a poop was it? Did you weigh yourself before and after? If not, then GTFO.
Well, they do make fantasy football championship rings too. But perfect way to celebrate a year penalized by selling memorabilia, by giving their players more memorabilia...
Kind of reminds of the participation trophies they hand out to kids that play soccer now. I wonder if Urbs handed out Capri Suns and orange slices too.
I thought Braxton Miller looked much improved in the passing game. I believe they will be 11-0 when they come to AA. We need to make sure they leave 11-1.
Not sure if this comment us serious
Why wouldn't it be serious? Have you seen their schedule?
And yet last year they couldn't pull away from Purdue, or Cal all at home, or IU or UW...I expect a slight regression to the mean and they drop a game or two. It's really hard to go undefeated, even with an easy schedule. It's possible, and they are a good team, but still weird things happen in sports.
Oh, and the first part of the not sure if serious comment was that Miller improved...from the stats on the game, I believe he was pretty much exactly the same as last year. Not great, but makes one or two great deep balls and avoids TOs. Nothing new there. Still dangerous, but no an elite passer.
"I expect a slight regression to the mean and they drop a game or two."
What is the mean in this case? What distribution (maybe binomial) are you using to determine the mean? What is the vaule of the regression? Reading your post, I'm confused how you are using statistics to determine the outcome of a season. Please explain your logic and stats.
For the record, I agree OSU does have a weak schedule as their first four games are games they should win, although going to Cal is a toss up but likely in OSU favor. I refuse to homer out and think they will go 11-0 before they play Michigan. Maybe 9-2 or 10-1 at best. I'm still lost on what you mean by your above quote. Are you trying to say its hard for a team to go undefeated, let alone do it in back to back season maybe?
People love to use terms like "regression to the mean" because they think it sounds important and scientific. Also "data points."
I think he meant they won't be as lucky. They were extremely lucky to not drop at least one game last year. Kind of how we were lucky in 2011.
Yep. You got it.
But is it really that incredible to think OSU could go undefeated... One year from going undefeated, returning most everyone of significance and facing a weak schedule? Sure, it's not a lock. But silly to have overly strong views on either side of this.
'Regession to the mean' obviously doesn't apply to a scenario that has no stats to actually back it up. But it is a useful phrase that everybody understands to mean, that yes, weird things happen in sports and I do not expect OSU to go undefeated, as I never expect any team to go undefeated. Because more than likely they won't. I feel a one or two loss season going into the UM game is a much more reasonable expectation, even for a really good team
Ain't nobody got time for dat !!!!!
The only game I think they have a chance to lose(other than us) is at Cal which I believe is the 2nd game of the year and Cal gave them problems at home last year. But even thats a stretch. They have a very good team and a weak schedule. They will be 11-0 when they come to the big house. Bank on it.
They may, but I'll bank on the fact that it's really difficult to go undefeated in sports. Even Bama couldn't do it the past two years. And OSU won close games last year against Cal, MSU, IU, Purdue, UM (all those just off the top of my head). Statistically, they should just drop one of those by chance. I expect that to happen this year at least once. Any team that can't pull away from Purdue or Cal at home last year is not elite.
Also beat Wisconsin in OT, so that's another close game. Although, to be fair, that Indiana game wasn't really all that close: OSU was up 18 with about 3 minutes left in the game and then IU scored two really quick TD's to make it appear more competitive.
Where's Seth? He's the resident expert in the use of "Thy" vs. "Thine." *
* Seth corrected a diary entry of mine last year, but he did it in such a good-natured way I couldn't be upset. I think "thine" is the proper use in this context. But I ain't no good with grammar.
I wasn't impress
Did they hand out their:
You know, Champions rings at half time?
Champions for life!
They'll totally be able to explain what a "Leaders Division" championship is without going to Wikipedia or a 50 for 50 when telling their kids the story. No possible way that's dated like a 90's music video in twenty years.
is the most Ohio thing ever. Along with that plastic case the gold pants come in. I got all sorts of things in those kinds of boxes over the years: SimCity cards, academic pins, Western blots.
They should put up a banner that says they would be B1G champs and play in the National Championship game if it wasn't for Tressel.
but Casey Anthony DOES have some attractive underarms.
Let's never post anything about The Nuts on here ever again please. This is Michigan.