Honoring our fallen soldiers

Submitted by Yessir on May 27th, 2019 at 2:37 PM

Please join me in a 1 minute moment of silence to honor our fallen soldiers at Noon PST or 3pm EST. 

We are a group of vets, family and friends that mostly communicate online and through texts.  Not an official group. 

Apologies to those who feel this should be in the other thread.  

Thank you! 

 

rob f

May 27th, 2019 at 2:49 PM ^

Perfectly appropriate for its own thread.  After all, Memorial Day is to honor the brave souls who made the ultimate sacrifice of their lives for our freedom.

3pm.  Moment of silence to be observed here.

blueday

May 27th, 2019 at 5:43 PM ^

We are enjoying whatever we do today because of them and those that serve. Freedom is NOT free. There are daily threats to our constitution and liberties. Just watch the news. If you don't get it, LEAVE or get educated.

4godkingandwol…

May 27th, 2019 at 11:18 PM ^

Thanks for the link. Yeah, that article confuses white supremacy with affinity bias, and I think the author is an ignorant fool for making such a leap from one to the other. That being said, it in no way suggests the fire was a good thing. Just as the author is a hammer looking for a nail, so is anyone who makes the leap that this article supports the burning of the cathedral. 

bronxblue

May 27th, 2019 at 10:44 PM ^

I know this is just an attempt to start a fight, but I read the article and it's hyperbolic to say the author is saying it's a positive that the fire's destruction of Notre Dame is a positive.  In fact, the article explicitly states at the end that the intent is not to minimize those real loses from a religious perspective.  But she rightly points out that a lot of people reacted emotionally to it's destruction in ways that were perhaps out of whack with the actual impact of it's damage, as opposed to other recent events and landmark losses that happen in cultures that are minimized in this country.

It is absolutely a sign of white supremacy that we only teach a selective view of the world in our schools, that media tends to cover major events through a very particular Judeo-Christian lens, and how we as a society sometimes weaponize sadness and outrage in the (relatively) innocuous or inconsequential while ignoring far more damaging events that don't fit into a neater narrative.

It's not a perfect article, and I do think that for a lot of people (including myself as a Catholic), the symbolism of Notre Dame is very real and visceral.  But yeah, I hear about a bunch of predominantly-black churches in the South being destroyed by an arsonist, or a nation of people being systematically eradicated by a despot, and I feel bad but I compartmentalize that pain because it's pretty abstract.  It's important not to forget that for these people are suffering as well, and while my life isn't demonstrably affected by the burning of a church in another country, their problems are both real and immediate.

All that said, Memorial Day is about remembering those who have fallen in service of this country.  We can all argue for days about the merits that ultimately led to their sacrifices, but they're still losses that, in the whole, allow everyone, including you, the OP, this author, etc., to voice his or her opinions in a meaningful way.  

I'mTheStig

May 28th, 2019 at 1:04 PM ^

I know this is just an attempt to start a fight

Really?  How do you *know* that?

That's what I love about those of the diverse and inclusive crowd -- quick to make negative assumptions about people who don't conform to their opinions.

p.s.  that wasn't my intent at all... I had no motivation to start an argument with that post.

the article explicitly states at the end that the intent is not to minimize those real loses from a religious perspective

Yes, it does say that... and then goes on to do exactly the opposite.  I guess you missed that part in your rush correct me.

But yeah, I hear about a bunch of predominantly-black churches in the South being destroyed by an arsonists

Yeah, but your sources are selective.  You're clearly not seeing the whole picture southern, African-American churches aren't the only victims -- vandalism is all over Europe too... driven by the contempt in your words above.

We can all argue for days about the merits that ultimately led to their sacrifices

I don't need to argue about it.  I appreciate those who went before me and I wore my nation's uniform in their honor.  I wear a POW/MIA bracelet every day since I was honorable discharged too... it never comes off.  Looking at your posts, you're the one who seems to have a problem with it.

mjv

May 28th, 2019 at 10:53 AM ^

While I believe that we are all in agreement the fallen troops deserve to be honored for their sacrifice, please don't conflate their sacrifice with the military actions ordered by the political class (of both sides of the aisle and across the eras of several presidencies).  

The greatest threats to our constitution and liberties are not on a battle field or in a war torn city across the ocean, but here at home.  The NSA, CIA, FBI and power hungry politicians passing laws such as the Patriot Act and turning a blind eye to the surveillance apparatus destroying our liberties are not patriotic and deserve none of our admiration.  

jblaze

May 27th, 2019 at 10:30 PM ^

I love the military and all of the soldiers that have sacrificed themselves for our country. Too bad the POTUS hates the soldiers that are captured. 

lostwages

May 28th, 2019 at 4:11 PM ^

Actually don't need to join you...

This was put into law in 2003 by our Fed, that on 3pm local time wherever you are, you should take a moment of silence.

Anyways, observed, and thought about this a great deal on Monday. A lot of good people paid the price, but it's important to remember this EVERY day, not just Memorial Day.

Skidmark

May 28th, 2019 at 4:30 PM ^

War is insane.  It's an insane way to resolve conflict.  Here, put on this uniform so your comrades will know not to shoot you.  Now go shoot some strangers who are wearing different threads and have been told the same, trained for the same; same objective:  patriotism, country, their version of their god.  

That's what I think about on Memorial Day.  And other days.  And then  there is this; "hey, you can't have nuclear weapons.  Never mind that we have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.  No nukes for you!  You are a bad actor.  We are the white hats.  We get to decide."