Herd - Glorious, Loves UM, loves Harbaugh, Craps on OSU excuses

Submitted by Bo Harbaugh on January 4th, 2024 at 7:41 PM
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The Harbaughnger

January 4th, 2024 at 8:43 PM ^

Funny personal story about MSU:

I grew up a Michigan fan in Ohio. I got all kinds of shit for that growing up- everything you would expect and then some but I didn't care.

When I was 24 I moved to Michigan. Got engaged and my future in-laws were all MSU alumni/rabid fans.

And...with my being from Ohio, and growing up just before the internet was in every home, I honestly had absolutely no idea how badly MSU wanted to be UM's rival.

For a few years, whenever it came up that I was a Michigan fan, my in-laws were (surprisingly to me) genuinely offended that I didn't know anything more about UM vs MSU than I knew about UM vs any other B1G school.

They just could not understand how Michigan/MSU games weren't on my big-game radar...they couldn't fathom that outside of the state of Michigan, MSU didn't really register enough with most people...like they were invisible.

It was hilariously similar to the way Lego Joker was so hurt by Lego Batman for hating Lego Superman more.

I've always chuckled at that looking back on my childhood and my experience moving to Michigan- it shows how I had absolutely no bias in my mind about it. MSU genuinely wasn't a big deal because they simply didn't matter enough outside the state for a kid from Ohio to know how they felt about Michigan.

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TXWolverine44

January 4th, 2024 at 10:07 PM ^

I get the sentiment but MSU IS a rival. Hard stop. I also was out of state and knew a ton more about OSU and ND history vs Michigan but also knew about MSU and Minnesota a little as far as rivalry.

That said, when I went to UM I grew to absolutely HATE MSU fans so much more than OSU because of how petulant they were (c/o 2012 so that period certainly didn't help matters)

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goblu330

January 4th, 2024 at 10:53 PM ^

That used to be the case, but I don’t think it really is anymore.  Michigan State is a complete dumpster fire now, but for a period of time M v MSU was absolutely on the national radar.  I think M/MSU was the second or thirds most watched regular season game nationally in 2021.  I think it got more viewers than the Iron Bowl.

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mGrowOld

January 5th, 2024 at 8:48 AM ^

Trust me it's still the case and that's why it kills them.  I live in northern Ohio so I'm surrounded by buckeye fans, some hard core, some marginal.  My wife's BF is a marginal and knows I went to Michigan.  For a while every time MSU won something she'd text my wife "tell Don congrats on the big win".  I kept telling her I didnt go there, I went to University of Michigan and her general response was "oh, I keep forgetting there's another big college up there."

Nobody gives two shits about MSU anywhere else but Michigan.  Travel anywhere in the US or the world and you'll run into a lot of random M gear.  But you never, EVER see anything from State.

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mgoblue78

January 5th, 2024 at 9:08 AM ^

I was having a conversation at a party a few years ago in East Lansing at a retired MSU professor's home when someone commented about the large influx of Chinese students at MSU in the past few years. Another person said "It's really hard for them to get in the top schools at home,so they come here then go back home after graduation and tell everyone they went to Michigan. That works because no one has heard of MSU outside East Lansing and Lakeview"

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DickyWheysUM

January 4th, 2024 at 10:42 PM ^

Haha very similar. Grew up in Ohio, born in the mid 80s. All I knew was fuck Ohio State. Traveled a little bit when I became an adult and could afford things and had some guy see me shirt and say Go Green! I proceeded to say who in the hell are you rooting for when you say that? He was so offended 1) I didn’t know that was a Michigan State thing, and 2) that I couldn’t care less about that school. Go Blue, fuck Ohio State… all that mattered 

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MichaelCarras

January 4th, 2024 at 9:05 PM ^

I had to Google what RCMB was. The level of delusion is off the charts. I have never seen anything like it.  Besides how fever brained the posts are, I think the most amusing part is how much they care about Michigan and little the average Michigan fan cares about MSU. They are like the fourth most important rivalry behind OSU, PSU, and Notre Dame. 

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Oregon Wolverine

January 5th, 2024 at 9:23 AM ^

Fourth is a stretch.  It’s important to beat Sparty down, yearly, just to throw a wet blanket over their insecure strut.  When Sparty has success, Sparty is obnoxious. Buckeyes No 1 (obviously), ND No 2 (good to quiet that inexplicable superior attitude down), Sparty No 3 (to maintain order).  

While it’s important to beat PSU, have never considered them a “rival,” they’re more like Wisconsin or Nebraska -  take care of business.  

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BlueHills

January 5th, 2024 at 12:30 AM ^

There was a time, many years ago, when Michigan State was considered a more serious rivalry by students and alums than it's been lately. This was before Bo Schembechler. I was around then.

I started Michigan not that long after MSU won the national championship two years in a row. During the mid to late '60s, MSU was a powerhouse. Michigan was not playing on their level, but the MSU rivalry was taken seriously. Michigan fans would say 'we're an academic school, not a 'football factory'. Shoulders would be shrugged.

Beating MSU was a big deal. The script flipped when Bo came. During the Bo v Woody years, it became the Big Two and the Little Eight, and beating MSU or any of the Little Eight was not that big a deal.

The legacy of that era is still with us in terms of how we view the rivalry. MSU, of course, views it differently. But the Ten Year War was the era when the OSU game became THE game every year. It was certainly a big game before then, but not that much more than MSU, or even Minnesota.

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Rams

January 4th, 2024 at 8:17 PM ^

There was an amusing thread over on 11W earlier today proclaiming Washington the national champions, saying that even if Michigan were to somehow win, the title would be vacated by the NCAA. I don't see it there now, so maybe their mods realized just how stupid it was and deleted it.

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MIMark

January 4th, 2024 at 11:11 PM ^

Head to the south. SEC hacks genuinely believe Connor Stalions is the only reason Michigan is good. I loved knocking my Alabama fan boy CEO around getting him to admit that the time to observe a sign, understand it, decide on an adjustment, communicate it to your captain, and have the captain communicate to the team, is just not possible in the timeframe of an average play.

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MichaelCarras

January 5th, 2024 at 9:01 AM ^

Colin had a bad interview with Harbaugh before he joined FOX in around 2014. Has been the biggest Harbaugh supporter of anyone in media since. Was more supportive of Harbaugh than 90% of Michigan fans from 2015-2020. Nothing has changed with him toward Harbaugh. A lot has changed among fans toward Harbaugh since then.

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dickdastardly

January 4th, 2024 at 7:55 PM ^

I saw this earlier today and what infuriates me is that all of these guys could have destroyed the cheating narrative long ago but didn't. They all know it's a hit on Harbaugh and Michigan by a disgruntled low T OSU coach.

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