Braylon Edwards: There's A 'Deeper-Seated Problem'

Submitted by Pepper Brooks on September 27th, 2019 at 7:30 PM

https://971theticket.radio.com/articles/braylon-edwards-it-doesnt-matter-if-you-fire-harbaugh

It Doesn't Matter If You Fire Harbaugh -- There's A 'Deeper-Seated Problem'

Edwards makes the case to sacrifice academic requirements in order to cast a wider net recruiting.  

"Stop trying to bring in kids that had a 1600 on the SAT. Let’s be honest, stop trying to bring in kids that come from two-parent homes and picket fences and got a dog named Fluffy and all that. You need to bring in some dogs. You need to bring in some kids that are hungry. You need to bring in some kids that need Michigan. Stop trying to bring in kids that don’t need Michigan." 

"What is our school? Are we academics first and we’re going to win 9.5 games and maybe we’ll battle it out against Penn State, lose to Ohio State?"

Harbaugh has put a lot of effort into ensuring the player's academic success (see https://michigantoday.umich.edu/2019/08/22/student-athlete-oxymoron/). 

I'd like to think that Michigan can do both.

wolve1972

September 27th, 2019 at 8:53 PM ^

I don't buy any of this. Take a look at the 247 Composite top 100 (I just did) and we've offered almost all of the same kids as Alabama, Clemson, OSU, Georgias etc...….. I also read on this board that Harbaugh has recruited to the point where we're in the top 8 or so for recruited talent on the roster (again from 247). That team that just waxed us last week brings in nowhere the talent we do. Just excuses now.  

Hotroute06

September 27th, 2019 at 10:51 PM ^

If you knew anything about football and recruiting you would understand that for 10 years now we have largely been recruiting players who are terribly overrated.

 

Derrick green,  Aubrey Solomon,  drew singleton,  Brandon peters... just to name a few.  

 

BroadneckBlue21

September 28th, 2019 at 9:29 AM ^

Jabrill Peppers wasn’t exactly a genius, either. Nor was Chase.

Most of the football team would not be admitted on academics alone, I’d venture. Harbaugh has put a premium on character guys like them, though. 

What Edwards mean is, we need MORE guys that are so athletic it doesn’t matter that they’d struggle in gen eds. I agree—as long as UM supports those athletes in the classroom and helps them grow academically.

I believe college is about growing intellectually —some of those athletes were patronized their entire lives when it comes to academics. People who don’t think economics plays a role in k-12 education levels, especially for talented poor athletes, is kidding themselves.   

I see admittance of elite athletes with low gpas as a chance for the university to help shape the young men.

I wonder, though, if Braylon would agree with me that these kids should be academically challenged to grow, or if he thinks they should be passed along as they likely were in high school. We don’t need UNC academic scandal. 

Richard75

September 28th, 2019 at 8:43 AM ^

Notre Dame > Michigan, but ND's playoff appearance was a product of their schedule. Remember what happened when they played Ohio State in the Fiesta a couple years back. If they played OSU every year like we do, they would have to run the table in their other games to even be considered for the CFP.

michgoblue

September 27th, 2019 at 7:50 PM ^

 Notre Dame and Stanford kind of actually prove Braylon’s point. Take a look at Notre Dame‘s record over the past decade. They have one really good season with 12 wins, a couple of 10 win season’s and a whole bunch of seasons that, if the Michigan coach had, we would be calling for the coach’s head. His point, and he’s not wrong, is simply that our standards relegate us to being relatively mediocre and occasionally having a good  to great season. 

Again, not saying that we should change but simply noting that he is not incorrect. 

maizenbluenc

September 27th, 2019 at 8:08 PM ^

This same premise starts in pop warner. Bring in the suburban kids to staff the b team and fund the booster club for the “athletes”. The “athletes” really need this because it teaches accountability and discipline.

This is how you end up with the UNC Basketball Museum proudly displaying the AFAM Degree for a player who never would have gone to college otherwise.

My view is it is a disservice to both b and a team kids from the start, and follows them all the way up through.

michgoblue

September 27th, 2019 at 7:40 PM ^

Here’s the thing:  What he said is upsetting and somewhat controversial, but not entirely untrue. We do, in fact, have a different academic standard than almost all top programs, and that does make it harder for us to compete. The “problem” (if it is a problem) manifests itself in two ways:

1. There are probably a handful of kids that we don’t even pursue because they won’t make it past admissions. If we lose 1 game changer a class, it could have a real impact. 

2. Because Michigan actually makes their athletes play school - albeit at a somewhat less rigorous level than non-athletes if they choose to - some top players are, in fact, likely turned off. Some kids just want to pick a school to play football and don’t come to play school. 

That doesn’t mean, however, that we should change our ways. It’s a choice and I am fine with Michigan choosing to keep its standards as they currently are. 

But, to the OP who said that we can do both, I would respond by pointing to the top 3-4 programs over the past years. Clemson,Bama, OSU, Georgia and even LSU - not exactly an academic group.  Sure, you can get there - every couple of years ND has a successful season (beating nobody) and makes the playoffs, but it is tough to have sustained success while maintaining the standard maintained at Michigan.  

JPC

September 27th, 2019 at 7:54 PM ^

Point 2 is much more relevant than some mythical “higher standard.” If an elite kid passes the NCAA clearinghouse they get in. 

The huge issue that you didn’t mention is the lack of transfers. Michigan can’t get junior college kids in to cover for attrition, and we had to turn away some Ole Miss guys who would have been great since their units didn’t transfer. 

andrewgr

September 27th, 2019 at 8:22 PM ^

I think Junior College transfers rarely make a difference for a top team.  They get a lot of attention, and the team's fan base make a big deal about how they've plugged a hole, but I'm not sure that a single conference championship or playoff selection or BCS selection has been determined because of a JUCO in this century.

I dunno, a quick google search turned up some links-- I'm not spotting anyone:

SBNation Top JUCO Players Ever

247 Sports Top College Transfers of All Time

I really have no idea how much Michigan's academic (or character evaluation) standards impact them; but I think JUCOs probably aren't a big deal, at least if you've got a team that can compete for championships.

michfan23

September 27th, 2019 at 9:57 PM ^

Totally agree. I do assume that some of these JUCO players saw some bags of cash flit their way too. 

Not that I’m in support of that. I think we can agree Cam saw some money...I mean, he had to have some seed money to start his immense hat collection that he drags out every Sunday before he watches from the sideline injured. 

CHUKA

September 27th, 2019 at 11:39 PM ^

The lists that you provided show how big of an impact JUCOs can make. I think your point’s very wrong.

”I'm not sure that a single conference championship or playoff selection or BCS selection has been determined because of a JUCO in this century.”

Have you heard of a guy named Cam Newton? If so, do you think Auburn wins the BCS or even makes it without him?

OaklandInPlay

September 27th, 2019 at 7:55 PM ^

Stanford proved it can be done even after Harbaugh. This is just another dumb ass excuse. The revenge tour last year showed when angry this Michigan team is a problem to deal with. We treat every opponent the same like an NFL team instead of getting fired up for big time games and that’s on the coaches. The way we came out the tunnel vs OSU last year and Wiscy last week, I know we would get blown out. 

goblue234

September 27th, 2019 at 8:05 PM ^

Stanford is currently 1-3 this season, with all of their losses being blowouts to ranked teams(but ones who would be beaten fairly easily by Wisconsin). 

Harbaugh would be on the hottest of hot seats if he were currently coaching Stanford. Not exactly a great example.