My ND preview: UM Defense

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Intro is same as offense version here, http://mgoblog.com/diaries/my-nd-preview-um-offense

All right so I am going to start this off by saying 2 things #1 UM’s win over WMU is great for everyone.  ND fans are more excited about this game than before, obviously the entire stadium was rocking with support of UM and the coaching staff and the entire team looked like they were having a great time.  Although everyone on the team didn’t experience last year, it looked like they all came together to put any fears of that repeating fully to bed.  I fully congratulate UM on their win and I mostly wish them success in the future.

 Before we move on to #2 I want to put up this disclaimer: You probably will not like what I am going to post, and I won’t hold it against anyone if it results in some lashing out, I was prepared for that long before I registered.  Also remember that quite a few posters actually requested this write up so here it goes….

#2 ND is going to tear UM’s defense apart, still too harsh? :) So if you’re still with me, you would probably ask why is that?  The passing threats are self evident, Tate and Floyd are constant play makers and if a secondary focuses on them with coverage then Rudolph or the Kamara coming out of the slot will burn teams up the middle.  A team sells out to the pass and the running game will kick in.  The running game will probably never be the shoulders this offense rides on but it began to show its teeth in week 1.  The new additions to the staff have already proven their worth in regards to the running game.  If your still still reading you shouldn't take that #2 statement too literally, it was just meant to weed out the undesirables.

UM Defense:

Secondary

WMU did not challenge UM’s defense and their short pass play calling allowed the secondary to play close to the line of scrimmage and support the run. The UM secondary was challenged maybe a total of 4 times with passes attempted over 15 yards. 

One was knocked down, and another fell incomplete when Hiller had 4 defenders break through his Oline causing him to throw early.  The last 2 completions both came late in the 2nd quarter on the last drive when WMU actually looked like they had a decent offense, though it stalled out a few plays later.  There were 2-3 drives that WMU was able to move the ball and they did it with a balanced attack by going with 10yardsish passes which pulled back the secondary and allowed for some respectable runs up front.  The only pass that took advantage of UM crowding the LOS was the 73 yard TD pass which was about a 30 yard pass and 43 YAC, that should worry UM fans more than anything. 

That type of attack is what you will see from ND though the ratio might be more like 2:1.  UM’s run support will not be able to rely on help from a secondary, they will have their hands full with our WRs.  ND will stretch the field, unlike anything WMU did.

Also where did all the excitement over Donovan Warren come from?  He did lead the team in tackles with 6.5 but he also generated 45 yards in penalties with 2 Pass interception penalties and a personal foul, which was away from the ball and the camera.  I would not be surprised one bit if he gets picked on next week by the play calling.  Especially if he still doesn’t think that he deserved those penalties on those particular plays; it could be a long game for him. 

Front 7

UM’s front 7 really took apart WMU’s line repeatedly.  The Oline was confused and lost, letting rushers through unchallenged.  They too got out of position and it led to the defense being able to drop the backs and QB for losses.  Overall UM tackled well, and didn’t let up really at all during the game.  Those front 7 will be looking across at an upgraded Oline this week though. Nevada’s pass rush last year was no slouch and they got pressure on clausen a couple times, they returned 2 DEs who totaled 23 sacks last season* and 15 tackles for loss. [EDIT]> The ND line did a great job giving Clausen time, he did feel the pressure a couple times, and Nevada did get one sack. There is no doubt Clausen will feel a strong pass rush this week, Brandon Graham will be a strong force on the outside and the ND Oline will need to have to slow him down in order to give Clausen time to pass.   The ND rushing attack was nowhere near amazing last week but it was a respectable 172 yards with 4.3 yds/c.  I am excited to see how physical they will be against the UM front, who showed their teeth against the WMU front regularly

[*EDIT: both DE's sack totals came from less than stellar competition and were probably not good indicators of NDs Oline strength]

Overall though the UM front 7 showed they can bring pressure regularly and that the Oline has to be ready for it to come from anyone.  The secondary probably had one of their easiest games of the season, and came away with just as many questions as a week ago, IMO.   The ND Oline will not tire as easily as WMU’s did and when they do, we again have depth to rotate them out.

Looking at how both teams match up against each other, you have to give ND the advantage.  ND’s passing attack vs an inexperienced UM secondary with little depth.  If you can’t stop the pass in the secondary that pass rush upfront will become even more important. And with the way the ND Oline shut down the 2 Nevada DEs I can’t see it being enough to stop the passing attack. Then you have the true freshman QBs under regular pressure from whatever blitz has been dialed up, and a secondary that doesn’t give an inch anywhere on the field and I still see ND having the advantage. 

With that all said, ND is playing at UM, in front of 108,000 anti-fans who are going to be loud the entire game, angry the entire game and ready to win again.  If UM can come out strong early and continue the same type of play they had against WMU, it will be a close game till the end no matter what advantage I may think ND has.

Comments

ShockFX

September 9th, 2009 at 10:42 AM ^

I count 2 missed FGs for ND to 1 miss for Syracuse. The inability to tackle is, uh, yeah coaching. The below zero temperatures effected Syracuse as well. Also, since Syracuse was LOSING BY 13, you'd think the temp would have been a bigger obstacle to them marching down the field 2 times to score touchdowns.

ShockFX

September 8th, 2009 at 3:37 PM ^

The running game will probably never be the shoulders this offense rides on but it began to show its teeth in week 1.
The ND rushing attack was nowhere near amazing last week but it was a respectable 172 yards with 4.3 yds/c.
Nevada at 120 in Passing defense in 2008 Nevada gives up 5.18 YPC against winning teams in 2008 [Weis' record against teams with a winning record goes here] I, however, am totally impressed by how ND shredded Nevada.

3rdGenerationBlue

September 8th, 2009 at 4:08 PM ^

ND looks good, skilled experienced players at keys positions on offense - check. Defense that pitched a shut out in game one - check. Overrated Fat Bastard coach - check. No need to rehash Michigan's weaknesses BUT it is a home game in front of a newly invigorated crowd and the team still feels like it has a lot to prove. After watching the game against Western again (in slo-mo btw) it looked like Michigan made a lot of small first game mistakes on offense - missed blocks, cutting toward the strength of the defense when there was open field in the other direction, not to mention the penalties and miscommunication on a few pass plays. Then add in our best RB (Minor) and best blocking back (Moundros) for the game against ND & subtract the unnecessary QB substitutions and.....ah hell none of it matters until they play the game.

ohio-michiganfan

September 8th, 2009 at 8:43 PM ^

I was gonna write a bunch of stuff but I will restrain myself. Come on dude it was Nevada. To hear you talk it was like they were playing against a really good team. They are not good at all. Talk about the great DE's. If they are that great then how could the pass defense be that bad. If they are both that good then almost everytime that the opposing offense dropped back to pass at least one of them would be hitting or sacking the quarterback. It was just Nevada, and I know we beat just Western Michigan. And that is why I am not on here talking about how great we are. I need to see more to say that we are good. You should feel the same way. I know it's just your opinion on what you think will happen and I do like reading it but it still gets me a little worked up. ;)

C-Dog

September 8th, 2009 at 5:51 PM ^

Long list of postings. On the analysis there were great points made on both sides. Frankly, it's too early to assess much other than, this Notre Dame team is not last year's team. This Michigan team is not last year's team. The game on Saturday is going to be like when both teams were relavant, just like the Miami / FSU game last night. Speaking of the Cocaines and the Criminoles, Notre Dame alums and fans of my era never hated Michigan. As competitive as both schools have always been, we respected our honorable opponent. Playing Michigan was like playing a brother. You wanted to win to see how good you really were. We saved the hate for the real cheaters, FSU, MIAMI, or any other 3rd world educational institution. And I say as an ND 3rd gen alum with family ties to the Rockne and Leahy era's, Michigan is an honorable program. So "enenmies" no, not to those who understand what both schools represent. Yes, I lived in Detroit and unfortunately there are fans who love UofM because the Lions suck and tracter pulls don't come around often enough. But those who know Michigan, the University, know it's like ND, DUKE, Northwestern, Stanford. These schools require intellect and do police themselves. I'm just looking for a good game. I want ND to win because I'm a fan. And now that UofM has shown it has teeth, a win would have meaning. UofM fans, aren't you glad ND looks good so far? And unlike games against the team in East Lansing, I'll wager there won't be any couch burnings after the game.

Michael

September 9th, 2009 at 12:22 AM ^

Although I'm not sure what exactly you're talking about here, I will say that you're right. We are a better school and have a better football team. With that said, I believe what many posters are referring to is the fact that us Michigan fans have a lot of respect for the ND institution, as well as the football program. We're just better :)

SysMark

September 8th, 2009 at 6:38 PM ^

No doubt we all appreciate the effort you put into that. However it would be more useful and palatable to many of us if you would just run down what you perceive to be the relative strengths and weaknesses of your team vs. UM. About halfway through we realize that every match up and variable is slanting in your direction and readers start to tune out. It sound less like an objective analysis and more like a ND fan calling South Bend sports talk radio. But thanks!

The King of Belch

September 8th, 2009 at 8:27 PM ^

I agree that this analysis was totally "GODDAMMIT I love notre Dame we kicked nevadas ass and michigan is only slightly better than poop!" Michigan's secondary matches up better with Floyd and Tate than they do when facing those goddamm aggravating three-step drops and slants. I may be full of shit, but I don't think tate and Floyd are exceptionally fast, and unless they get behind UM's DBs (as they did last year)--I doubt Claussen's downfield passing touch. What I wonder is whether ND will use a short passing game. They did burn UM with one last year-a quick hitter, a broken tackle, and 60 yards later my dog was stuck in the wall. Impressive for me was Michigan's team speed. Ya, it was Western, but last year Toledo was Toledo. UM seems better at RECOGNITION AND POSITIONING this year--not even close--not even comparable to last year. Seeing guys recognize, even during a play, what was happening and reacting (even the freshman Roh) was a thing of beauty. And don't get me started with their newfound ability to tackle people in he open field, one on one, and swarming to the ball. Gerg Vs Tenuta. Good matchup. GERG GOOD. Martin shows potential to clog up the middle, at least eough to free others to fill gaps and make tackles. Graham--what can you say? I like this matchup because Claussen is a classic dropback guy and he will be dropping back right into Graham's path. And Roh showed he can get there from the other side. Notre Dame will not, IMO, be able to devote a ton of resources to Graham. I like that. As for linebackers, I did notice Jonas Mouton still taking incorrect angles a time or two, or taking on blockers when he didn't need to. I'd like to see a bit better instinctual play from him. But he and Ezeh were maulers out there and showed they CAN get to the ball carrier in a hurry. The middle of the field was not open all day long for WMU. Will UM be able to track down ND's tight ends? This will be interesting because ND may keep them in for pass protection much of the time--so when they DO sneak out there, UM must account for them. They did not have to do that at ALL against the Broncos. In last year's game, except for the big plays, UM's team speed on defense was better than ND's on offense. Yes I said that. I think that will be the case this year as well. That has me optimistic. This year's Michigan D is faster. Last point: The trench battle is a tough call. With a bigger and better OL as ND has (over WMU)--can UM's svelte but faster DL's get through to the running backs or Claussen? ND will try to punch it up the middle--I don't see them fooling around with outside stuff too much, and I think UM's speed can negate the screen passes (although I'm honestly not sure howmuch ND uses he screen pass--fill me in). The battle between the Big Uglies will take place early and often IMO. I think Charlie believes ND can push Michigan around.

Irish

September 8th, 2009 at 9:50 PM ^

ND used a decent number of screens to counter Nevada's DEs, I am sure the same will be done at times to counter a bull rushing Graham. I don't really have a new argument against what you've said other than all ND can do is show it on the field. There is no doubt it will be a good game to watch.

jonvalk

September 8th, 2009 at 10:22 PM ^

Nevada was last in Passing Defense in 2008 for the entirety of FBS schools. Considering ND kept Jimmah and Co. in the game well into the 4th quarter, the game should have been an even bigger blow-out. Western had a much more respectable D last year.

Double Nickel BG

September 8th, 2009 at 11:39 PM ^

max protect alot? How do you think ND will deal with the blitz/BG? How would you rate NDs line? If ND goes max protect, I can see them making a few plays vs the Michigan secondary. It might be enough depending on the ND defense. If ND spreads it out I can see Michigan getting pressure with 4-5 man rushes and JIMMAH laying on his back alot. I think the running game might be the difference in the game. Ill take Minor/Michigan over NDs ability to run the ball vs the Michigan front. Time of Possession will be HUGE

Irish

September 9th, 2009 at 10:18 AM ^

I was really happy with the line after the game. I have cooled on how strong Nevada's DEs were supposed to be after reading some of the posts that were made. I also gained more respect for Brandon Graham. It was predominantly 2 TE sets with 2 WRs and a RB, for short yardage a FB came in, but later in the game we went to 3 WR sets at times and early in the game ran the wildcat as well. The running game success could very well be the deciding factor in the game. If ND can provide good containment and continue their bend but not break play, it could force the QBs to throw. If ND is continually stopped at the line, a strong pass rush could force Clausen to make mistakes.

blue note

September 8th, 2009 at 11:39 PM ^

I hate to be a stickler, but I just do not feel confident about our secondary yet- Also, when comparing, lets use pass efficiency d, which takes into account incompletions, TDs/Ints, etc. Nevada, which played Mizzou and Texas Tech, was 85th in the country last year. Michigan was 79th.

markjko.rn

September 11th, 2009 at 9:53 AM ^

Most people haven't been talking about this as a key to the game, but if we just hold onto the DANG BALL, we will have more than a chance to win the game. ND will get a couple TDs through the air on our secondary, but what else do they really have going for them against MI? They showed me nothing last year(see average field position that MI game them b/c they could not hold onto the DANG ball), and their roster really has NOT changed. ND did not beat MI last year. MI beat MI. If MI wants to win...Hold onto the DANG BALL...pretty sure Brian said the same thing in his season preview just in some slightly different words...