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WTKA Roundtable 11/15/2018: No Pulls Comment Count

Seth November 16th, 2018 at 8:00 AM

Note: Brian is not feeling well so he missed this episode. Craig Ross and Johnny Wangler will be joining me on MGoRadio this afternoon instead.

Things discussed:

  • Rutger: Brown admitted they got got by the zipper motion, wanted to keep that to 12 yards
  • Weather was a factor
  • Patterson ain't pulling.
  • Indiana: the Ball State game?
  • Ramsey is more conservative with the football this year
  • Their defense gets no pressure, can't tackle
  • Nova on the road: defense travels.
  • Not last year's Nova, but they brought back Paschal and some 5-stars.
  • Iggy! Played defense like Simpson, in his 3rd game in college, on the road, versus the defending champs!
  • Flexibility: 7-guy rotation but Livers is the hot shooter and lets M go five out
  • Simpson and Teske both candidates for DPoY. Juggernaut?
  • Teske can swat shots from guys after they get by him.
  • M got themselves some easy shots at the rim too.
  • They let Matthews go right.

You can catch the entire episode on Michigan Insider's podcast stream on Podbean.

Segment two is here. Segment three is here.

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Comments

Bill22

November 16th, 2018 at 8:32 AM ^

Went to that Ball State game in ‘06.  It was painful to watch.  Brady Hoke was their head coach!  Let’s not see a repeat this weekend and just take care of business please.

CR

November 16th, 2018 at 11:12 AM ^

Thanks for asking. It is a very simple idea I played around with in my first book, and it has been remarkably accurate this year, calling MSU, PSU, Wisconsin within a point. Off in the Rutgers game by 7.

1. It assumes turnover neutrality.

2. It looks to net yards per pass attempt, on offense and defense, to yield a team strength number.

3. These numbers are sack adjusted, because the NCAA lumps sack yardage in with run yardage.

4. At this juncture of the season, UM's offensive YPPA is 7.54. That's pretty good. Their defensive YPPA is 3.54. Maybe the best number I have seen since looking at this stuff. That's a NYYPA of 4.00. This is a final four quality number.

5. Indiana is 5.80 on O and 6.86 on D for a minus 1.06. That shows a team that is 5.3 points below an average team on a neutral field. The delta is 5.06. That is UM's # is 5.06 higher.

6. In terms of points (a lot of trial and error to fit the outcomes of games) that represents a 25.3 point differential, not adjusting for home field or about 28-29 points in Ann Arbor.

7. As an aside Bill Connelly has UM winning the game by 28.7 points.

Numerous footnotes.

1. Why YPPA? because I was looking for a single variable idea and I read a footnote many years ago (Pete Palmer?) that net YPPA was the only single variable that tended to predict NFL games. After I had played around with this, I found another guy, Bud Goode (deceased) who worked with NFL teams and he believed this was the best single metric for prediction. Goode, I am guessing, did not confront how the NFL put sack numbers to the side, however, keeping them out of run and pass yards.

2. Why no run yards in the equation, like ED Feng and other stat guys do? Because I think run yards are baked into NYPPA. I think looking to relative numbers and not gross passing yards, tends to include the efficiency of a team's run game. Hence, I think looking to all yards gained tends to have "too much running factored in it." Ed doesn't agree with me, but, this year at least NYPPA has been a spot-on metric, better than the multi-variable ideas I have looked at. Admittedly, I haven't studied this carefully. I am old but I still have to make a living. 

3. Why 5 as a multiplier? This is a very crude number that I played around with and it tended to fit/solve the equation in prior games at that time. It would be great to see the NYPPA numbers for every team in the country, but that's more work than I can do. I wish someone else would take that one on. But I have done a few years of BT data, and with occasional outliers, the NYPPA attempt numbers and standings match right up by the end of the season. Usually the outliers have had crazy TO numbers or have exceptional/dreadful special teams.

4. About 5 other footnotes about run yards, pass yard, fumbles, interceptions, but I suspect I am boring you, assuming anyone is still breathing in this particular dimension.in the first place.

 

CR

 

 

 

CR

November 16th, 2018 at 1:20 PM ^

Yes, assuming the OSU numbers are adjusted for sacks on both sides of the equation. That is, subtract yards lost on sacks and add the number of sacks as pass plays to get an "actual" YPPA. Plus you have to adjust for home field. Maybe worth 4 in CBus.

But the arithmetic is good and so far this year this little idea has been about as good as any.

 

CR

lsjtre

November 16th, 2018 at 9:32 AM ^

He got the Ball State score wrong; it was Michigan 34 Ball State 26, not 42-37 or whatever.

I made an account just to clarify this injustice, getting Michigan scores wrong bothers me a lot more than it should.