WTKA Roundtable 11/14/2019: If You Aren't in Prison
Football things discussed:
- State preview: Lewerke is less broken, they're 86th not 128th.
- MSU played a better game than Illinois, but for a lot of Sparty Nos.
- MSU was running Michigan's arc read—how little brother was that.
- State's Brady Hoke Concussion Adventure: they tell the truth that they didn't give a shit if Lewerke had a concussion, then the medical staff is like waitaminute we've got to lie.
- Bachie is a huge loss though they have more good linebackers. What they don't have are the elite secondary players.
- This is just the cusp: recruiting has been a crater, and they're going to lose almost all of their good players.
- KJ Hamler told the announce crew for MSU-PSU he didn't go to Michigan State because people don't come out right up there.
- Credit to Michigan State for taking a comeuppance they've deserved for years.
- Malik McDowell: everything people were worried about with him came true because he went to Michigan State.
- Lloyd Carr did not like Bobby Williams.
- Watch the Illinois game: Gotta dial up more shots.
- The Dread: last year things felt bad even though Michigan was up a touchdown forever until the DPJ touchdown. But Michigan was still dominating that game.
Basketball things discussed:
- App state: Zavier Simpson's worst game since he won the starting job, had a good game against Creighton.
- Running sets that Juwan brought from the NBA. In the 2nd half the offense gets better because they're on offense by their bench and Juwan can yell at guys.
- Pink Teske: was pretty tired out there—maybe tempo isn't going to help his style. Gave up a lot of OREBs. But Teske iced the game too.
Other things discussed:
- Who's Alabama beaten? Brian: They'll have beaten Auburn; that's not as good as the other 1-loss teams. Oklahoma or Oregon is going to have one more win and a conference championship.
- Buying Minnesota? Yes they can win the West. But they played even with Penn State, whom Michigan was better than on the road, so they're on our level.
- Ed does a Brian impersonation.
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November 15th, 2019 at 7:57 AM ^
"But they played even with Penn State, whom Michigan was better than on the road..."
Could just be me, but I seem to remember losing this game?
November 15th, 2019 at 8:05 AM ^
Yeahh, I was kinda confused by that one. I just had to tell myself maybe I didn't understand what he was trying to say and moved along lol.
It was a game of two halves.
November 15th, 2019 at 8:34 AM ^
Outcomes, you guys are so invested in outcomes. Be better.
November 15th, 2019 at 8:08 AM ^
Why do I get the feeling Brian is going to bonk Ed on the head with his headset?
Dude was more of a stickler this week than usual lol.
November 15th, 2019 at 8:56 AM ^
I'm not sure why Ed is even on the roundtable anymore. He brings an interesting perspective from an analytics standpoint, but analytics are worthless when not taken into context, and he seems to go off on opinions that he's not qualified to have. Very nice guy, but more or less worthless in this show.
November 15th, 2019 at 3:28 PM ^
Agreed, he is a terrible fit for the roundtable. He should just have his own segment where he dives into whatever analytics he has for Michigan, the Big 10, and national college football. Instead he tries to play Brian's game and just gets contradicted all the time. If it's an "MGoBlog roundtable" bring in Seth and/or Ace instead.
November 15th, 2019 at 9:33 AM ^
Brian is spot on with this one. We lost, but we played better. If my memory served me correctly, we racked up 420 yards to their 280 yards. It was one of those, we dominated game but lost on scoreboard games. Played better 3 of 4 quarters basically, and the killer were 2 incorrect flags, and 1 big drop, and red-zone disconnects.
November 15th, 2019 at 12:09 PM ^
UM outplayed PSU 3 out 4 quarters in that game. The better team doesn't always win. PSU, UM and Minnesota are all good teams, but they are outside that next tier of teams this year. I think that was the only point being made.
November 15th, 2019 at 1:52 PM ^
"Michigan was up a touchdown forever until the DPJ touchdown"? No, the game was tied before the DPJ touchdown..
After the DPJ TD, U-M had a long TD drive which was almost all running plays to make it 21-7.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:49 PM ^
So did Brian make his Minnesota bet? Hopefully he acknowledges Ed's numbers were better than his this time.
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