The Game 1902. Ohio State has always had ugly stripes. [UM Bentley Library]

Five Victories Over Ohio State: 1897-1904 Comment Count

Seth December 10th, 2020 at 11:22 AM

Any conversation with an Ohio State partisan is only going one way because who won most recently is the only truth in the world. What day is it?/December 10th./No it isn't./Look on a calendar!/Look at the scoreboard!

As much as recent history sucks, history is still so much in Michigan's favor that other college football fans argue it doesn't matter. I take issue with that, yes because my team won the first college football game and more than anyone else since and I'm a biased fanboy, but also because any slicing of dates to create a "modern" period is a repudiation of the process of change, and the normality of more of it.

Take the "Integration Era" since that's a popular one. George Jewett integrated college football when he joined Michigan in 1890, but in 1934 Michigan still had one Black guy, whom they sat when they played Georgia Tech. The Civil Rights Era had landmark moments: Texas Western started five Black players and won the 1966 men's tourney, Florida A&M (an HBCU) beat all-white Tampa in 1969, USC blew out Alabama in 1970, and two Black quarterbacks started the Michigan-Ohio State game in 1973. But it would be another 20 years before D-I rosters were a majority non-white, almost 40 years before Denard Robinson and Braxton Miller followed in the footsteps of Dennis Franklin and Cornelius Greene, and 2019 before Michigan ended a three-year run when not a single Big Ten head basketball coach looked like 75 percent of players have since before the coaching pool played. There is no date in there when past became modern, just an accumulation of decisions that add up to an uneven progress.

The Stone Age Game

That said, jumping from the only modern moment to when the Michigan-Ohio State series began requires some orientation. Teams around 1900 didn't have access to the forward pass, or platoons, or scholarships, or hash marks. Their touchdowns were worth five points instead of six, but their field goals were worth four, and placed at the front of the endzone, not the back. Though their training regimens differed vastly from the average student's, they were nothing like today. The players were much smaller, especially Yost's because he liked them that way. Scheduling was…well it was a lot like 2020: if you were lucky you had a conference organize a bunch of games that might be played, saving room for a surprise at the end. The Big Ten (the "Western Conference" then) was the first such organization, and only a year old when Michigan-Ohio State began.

It wasn't completely foreign. Both schools were also surprisingly modern in their football attitudes. They got up for rivalries. They had blue chip recruiting battles that went on for years. They had massive alumni networks who handled illegal payments to facilitate those recruiting battles. These fans and bagmen would get furious at their coaches when they lost big games, and schools relied so much on these people to fund and promote their school parts that they'd often capitulate, then launch searches as desperately insane as today's.

Specifically, Ohio State at the turn of the century was much more OHIO STATE than they'd like you to believe. Their resources didn't differ that much from Yost's, their fanbase was comparable to most of the schools that were in the original Big Ten, and their football team's interest in academics was as perfunctory as ever. These games counted. They count now. And if you just haven't heard about them, that can be remedied.

[After THE JUMP]

The First

1897: In the second season of the Western Conference, and the first seasons under new head coaches Gustave Ferbert and Charles A. Hickey, Michigan invited the Morrill Act school of Ohio to come play at Regent's Field. Ohio State's program at this point was seven years old, but you could get off the mat quickly in those days by taking the game more seriously. This OSU did, pouring resources into their young program and advertising it as a way to quell a strong anti-educational sentiment across the state. It worked better than they could have hoped; before football Ohio State was constantly in danger of being shut down by state politicians who ran on the idea that tax dollars were going to teach Evolution. In only a few short years of football, those politicians had to shut up, lest they upset the state's best shot at a public interstate power.

Ohio State would become the Boise State of the day, dominating an unofficial mid-major conference of Ohio schools. Michigan had long-running relationships with all of them—Ohio, Oberlin, Miami, Case, Western Reserve (two different schools at that time), Cincinnati, Wittenberg, and Wesleyan, the last coached at the time by rookie Fielding Yost. Ohio State wasn't a power yet, but they were on par with any Indiana or Illinois, and indeed won half of their games versus the big Western Conference teams.

Michigan fans clearly thought of Ohio State as the marquee Ohio school. What didn't exist yet was the hate—Michigan fans were excited about the rivalry, friendly with the school they could reach by train, and hopeful that Ohio State could join their young conference, which was the first of its kind.

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The 1897 Ohio State team, in Dantonio-era MSU uniforms for some reason. [Ohio State University Libraries]

The first game, however turned out to be a rote Michigan tuneup against another overwhelmed Ohio mid-major, because Ohio State was injured all to hell. Like the 2020 Wolverines, Ohio State lost two of their stars before the season, and their next best three players unable to make the trip due to injury.

Michigan dispatched the Buckeyes in two short halves—20 and 15 minutes. A strong wind was behind Ohio State in the first half (via the Daily), but what that gained in punt efficiency Michigan just took back by goring the undermanned Buckeyes at a steady 10 yards a play, much of that behind a new starting guard, Colorado transfer William Caley. Michigan then used the wind to their advantage, pinning Ohio State back to run out the clock, but missing a short field goal try to keep the final score just under a point-a-minute: 34-0.

Point-a-Minute One

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The Game, 1901 [UM Bentley Library]

1901: Speaking of point-a-minute, the only team other than national power Chicago to hold Yost's first Michigan squad under the mark was, indeed John B. Eckstorm's then-undefeated Buckeyes. It was the third time these teams played—they tied 0-0 in 1900—the first time Michigan traveled to Columbus, and the first time Ohio State was scored upon that season. The game also attracted twice the previous attendance record for Ohio State—4,000 spectators, including about 700 from Ann Arbor. Michigan, as expected, "preserved the sacredness of her goal line"—the team would win all of its games by a combined score of 555-0.

The closest anyone came to this unprecedented juggernaut was, indeed, Ohio State. Eckstorm was well-prepared for Michigan's hurry-up approach. He couldn't win, but holding Michigan to a reasonable score alone would be a huge boon to his rising program, and he had a sound strategy to make this happen: play the shortest game possible. Though the teams had agreed upon 35-minute halves, Eckstorm insisted on 25- and 30-minute halves, until an umpire had to tell him to shut up or take a forfeit. The Ohio State players were coached to slow the game by any means necessary, most especially with fake injuries—the Freep snidely reporting the Buckeyes' doctors and trainer ran for more yards than both teams put together:

The game showed up the superior condition of the Michigan men. On almost every scrimmage some Ohio man would stretch out on the ground and take his full time. This playing for wind was so apparent that the Michigan players finally burlesqued it.

They also hinted Ohio State's eligibility standards were as loose as always:

Their ex-star players, who have been returning to college in such suspicious numbers, failed to puncture Michigan's magnificent defense effectually outside of a short portion of the second half.

The gambit did its job—the game lasted less than 2 hours—but so did Michigan mistakes, missing three extra points and a close field goal, and fumbling away two promising possessions inside the Ohio State five. They also took four offsides penalties—there were no false starts at this point but if you crossed the line of scrimmage before the snap the penalty was a turnover. One of those penalties resulted in the scariest moment all year for the shutout streak, as Ohio State took over on the Michigan 25 and tried a field goal.

Michigan did get in five touchdowns (worth 5 points) and an extra point for a final score of 21-0. The biggest play of the day was, of course, by Michigan's star left halfback Willie Heston, who broke loose out the backside for a 40-yard touchdown.

Point-a-Minute Two

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Boss Weeks (dark team) coming through the line for a TFL [Bentley]

1902: Yost was still interested in playing Ohio State every year. I mentioned that Ohio State was good enough back then to go .500 in the Big Ten if they were members, but they were still a mid-major, so Yost was able to strike a deal where they would play two in Ann Arbor for every one in Columbus, but starting with the one in Columbus. So 1902 was the return to Ann Arbor. Again, Michigan was the first team to score on the Buckeyes all season, and the Bucks would later tie Indiana and Illinois (which went 10-2-1 that season)—this no pushover.

It was also starting to take the shape of a rivalry, including calling them simply "Ohio" and inventing uninventive cheers just for them:

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In halves of 35 and 25 minutes, in front of the largest crowd ever gathered at Ferry Field (~8,000), Willie Heston returned from injury to put on a clinic. His first carry was 20 yards off the left and and set up Michigan's first score. Ohio State's first possession was quick and hapless, and Michigan got the ball back in short order. It's at this point Yost unveiled his response to the Buckeyes' grind-down-the-game strategy from the previous year; punting on first down! On these downs Ohio State was using two halfbacks half-deep (like a Cover 2) instead of the usual one guy way back to protect for punts. So Michigan punted, pinning Ohio State back, and forcing OSU's much worse punter to continually kick from his own end zone. From there it was a ridiculous NCAA dynasty game, where Michigan would get the ball on the OSU 30 or 40, take a couple of chunk runs, kick off, three-and-out, repeat.

Ohio State ended the game with as many punts blocked (two) as first downs. Final score: 86-0. On the train ride home, inspired by "The Yellow and Blue," and clearly flooded with emotion after supporting his school through that, Ohio State glee club member Fred Cornell wrote "Carmen Ohio" on the back of an envelope.

Point-a-Minute Three

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Ohio State managed to move the ball through the middle when Michigan's vaunted center went out with an injury. [Bentley]

1903: By this point in the Yost Era, Michigan was taking a lot of heat from a football establishment that figured Michigan must have been cheating (We were, but so was everybody). Anyway the whole country was pretty much set against us, and went nuts for Minnesota when they tied Michigan 6-6, the game when Michigan left their water jug.

The game after the Jug game was 6-1 Ohio State, who was coming off a huge home win over West Virginia, Yost's alma mater. Yost communicated with his friends to get the skinny on the Bucks, and this of course was considered highly unethical because losing teams I guess weren't supposed to share scouting information? (It wasn't; I'm just pointing out Ohio State fans have always been this way).

Anyway the real cheat code was having Dad Gregory blocking for Herb Graver as Michigan built a 36-0 lead, with five TDs by Graver. The first half was weird as the Ohio referee kept penalizing them for huge yardage, and Michigan kept winning it back. Back then in nonconference play each team supplied an official and the home team recruited an impartial referee, but the one Yost got wasn't overruling the guy Ohio State brought. According to Walter Eckersall, at this time a J.J. McCarthy-level recruit, but later a famous Chicago Tribune football writer, Michigan used to get called on "passes" all the time—forward passes were illegal until 1906, so Yost had his teams perfect lateral swing passes where the RB would catch the ball outside with his momentum going downfield, and these tended to get whistled by referees who believed the play to be illegal. By now offsides was a 20-yard penalty instead of a turnover, and Michigan could get 20 yards whenever they wanted.

But OSU tightened up their defense later in the half when Gregory went out for a knee injury, and even went on a drive, getting to the Michigan 10 before time ran out on the first half.

In the second half Ohio State changed their tactics to force everything inside, and Michigan's offense stalled, fumbling away two drives as well. Even inserting Willie Heston, who was being kept in reserve for the big game against Wisconsin next week, didn't change the formula. A drive to the one yard line ended in a fumble, and another fumble forced Michigan end Curtis Redden (later a famous WWI war hero) to run down a potential fat guy touchdown at the 20. The second half of 25 minutes ran out with the halftime score of 36-0 standing.

Point-a-Minute Four

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The 1900s version of BEAT RIVAL buttons. That's not a winged helmet by the way; it's supposed to be a coonskin cap in reference to old Ohio stereotypes of Michigan as this wild, untamed, long-haired country bumpkin state. [Ohio State University Libraries]

1904: It was now Ohio State's turn to host again, and the first time the two schools would actually play all of 60 minutes. This Ohio State team again came in undefeated and unscored-upon, blasting Otterbein, Miami, Muskingum, and Denison by a combined 184-0. Denison (where Woody Hayes would later get his coaching start) was a mid-major punching above its weight, and the 24-0 shutout was considered a major victory.

Michigan too had dominated the warmups, pounding Case, Ohio Northern, Kalamazoo College, and Physicians & Surgeons Chicago (a good mid-major back then which later merged with Illinois), by a combined 248-0. The Daily, with no snark at all, billed it as the "Greatest game ever played in Ohio" and remarked "O.S.U. has always had the best rooting of any team that has played in Ann Arbor."

Michigan fans bought up more seats from Meyers's news stand for the road game than they'd purchased for any home game up to this point. For their part, many Ohio schools canceled their own games or moved them to the morning so they could get to Columbus for The Game.

Once again the coaches haggled over the halves, with Yost demanding the agreed-upon 35-minute halves and new Ohio State HC Edwin Sweetland asking for 30, but this time Sweetland got his way.

The subead here tells the story, as well as serving as a biased-headline-for-the-ages:

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After a few punt exchanges Michigan had a sustained TD drive, missing the extra point. Another slow drive stalled out and the half ended with Michigan up 5-0 in one of those "We're way better than this other team and the score doesn't reflect it and now we're late enough in the game that I'm concerned something weird can screw this up." Like a Maryland special teams touchdown kind of thing. Except in this case it was a fumble in a pileup on Michigan's first drive that squirted out into the hands of Ohio State's fastest player. Suddenly it's Ohio State 6, Michigan 5.

Michigan was awoken, but kept botching field goals, and also fumbled on the OSU to the same guy. But OSU's offense was basically shot at this point and the short fields piled up for a comfortable 31-6 final score. The Daily consoled the Michigan partisans upset that their goal line had been penetrated, and give away the fact that they considered their vanquished foe something less than a Wisconsin, Minnesota, or Chicago:

The fact that Michigan was scored on at Columbus yesterday should not in any way dishearten Wolverine football enthusiasts. The team perhaps needed such an accident to prepare for the hard games of the next few weeks. At any rate the six points that Ohio State secured against Yost's men are no discredit to the players who fought so valiantly for the 'Yellow and the Blue' yesterday. The splendid record of the Michigan tam in the latter part of the second half was evidence enough that the Wolverines will make an enviable record for the University this season.

Also the Buckeyes wouldn't score on Michigan again until 1908. Every point since, of course, has been a fluke.

Comments

kurpit

December 10th, 2020 at 11:51 AM ^

any slicing of dates to create a "modern" period is a repudiation of the process of change, and the normality of more of it.

There's no reasonable cut off date, but it's totally reasonable to value recent success and recent championships more than old ones. For example, I know that technically the 1955 Stanley Cup championship by the Red Wings has as much value as the 1997 one or the 2008 one, but my heart knows full well that's a load of crap. Don't know about other people, but I don't really find pride in things that my team did decades before my grandparents were born.

Seth

December 10th, 2020 at 12:04 PM ^

In general I think people value what they know about, and the more recent the thing the more they know about it. But history has awesome people and awful people, and when you meet them and can understand them they become every bit as fascinating as those you meet today.

What I didn't say is that very old events should be celebrated as much as recent ones. What I object to is an arbitrary cut-off where we only count the series record since 1970 because that's when Alabama became the 100th team to integrate.

The 1955 Stanley Cup is part of the reason the Red Wings stand out. It's why a lot of hockey players list Detroit as one of their no-trade exceptions even when the organization is going through a rebuild. It's got cachet in hockey the way Michigan does in football. At that point it's just a blur, a feeling, a few names. But if you're in hockey you know those names. Your friends talked about a Gordie Howe Hat Trick. You got in a fight with another kid because you wanted to wear #9 because THAT'S THE CENTER NUMBER.

Same with Michigan-Ohio State. We talk about the storied rivalry today and mostly think of Bo-Woody when doing so. But Bo-Woody happened because there was such a strong rivalry to build on, and that happened because Michigan was the first Midwest football program and Ohio State was one of the two (with Chicago) first professionalized Midwest football programs.

kurpit

December 10th, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^

I get the sentiment but strongly disagree. I think the notion that we should celebrate the past as much as the present is pretty absurd. I also get that there's no "correct" answer here because we're just talking about how titles feel to us, but nobody's gonna convince me that Minnesota's 1942 national title means as much now as Clemson's 2014 national title. (just picking random title comparisons to try to take any homer-inspired views out of the conversation.)

All sports are and always have been a "what have you done for me lately?" world. If that wasn't true then we'd still consider ivy league programs to be elite programs and Pitt would be a national power.

kurpit

December 10th, 2020 at 1:13 PM ^

Fine, you want me to use the examples you provided?

Your friends talked about a Gordie Howe Hat Trick. You got in a fight with another kid because you wanted to wear #9 because THAT'S THE CENTER NUMBER.

This is plainly false and actually a fantastic example of how you're wrong. My friends wanted to wear #19 and #91. We loved Steve Yzerman, Sergei Federov, and Nick Lidstrom more than Gordie Howe because we got to experience the excitement of those players and those games. 

The experience of winning >>>>> stories about winning

Seth

December 10th, 2020 at 1:21 PM ^

#19 and #91. #99. Weird that so many great hockey numbers had 9's in them. Anyway you're still arguing a premise that I'm not making. If you hate history because your feelings are all that matter to your fandom then maybe the history articles aren't for you. I'd have a Foe Film in this spot today but there's no foe.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

December 10th, 2020 at 12:28 PM ^

Hey look, there's no question you guys dominated the horse & buggy era.  Riding out to the rugby grounds to watch the gridders from UM use their leather helmets to impose their will on foes such as the Detroit Athletic Club, Adelbert, Grand Rapids High, Physicians & Surgeons and Kalamazoo had to be an incredible experience.  I'm sure the lads went back to the rooming house, put a record on the Victrola and celebrated the hell out of those wins.  I don't know if they had the opportunity to take the train to Washington and meet President McKinley after any of those seasons, but the "Leaders and the Best" should have been recognized.  When Michigan was dominating back then, it was coinciding with the evolution of the silent film.  While a great way to see the exploits of the boys from Ann Arbor, unfortunately it would have failed to capture the full experience of the game.  As a point of reference, watch the episode of "Little House on the Prairie" when Albert Ingalls forms a Walnut Grove football team.  That would have been around the same era, so it could give you an appreciation of the exploits of the mighty Michigan Men.

gremlin3

December 10th, 2020 at 1:10 PM ^

Michigan has the 6th highest win percentage since 1970. Won the first national title by a Big Ten team during this period.

Also historic: Michigan is a 10x better university than the glorified HS that is Ohio State. And in that regard, OSHS will NEVER pass Michigan. May it give you comfort that you can only pass Michigan in endeavors where you can cheat and no one cares.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

December 10th, 2020 at 3:48 PM ^

Michigan (USNWR # 3 public university) is a great university - with that I agree.  Ohio State (USNWR #17 public university) is a great university as well.  Not ranked as high as Michigan, but certainly not a "high school".

 

As far as the "cheating" - that's a baseless claim people from losing programs make.  I never heard all of this "well we do things the 'right way' and you don't" stuff until UM started circling the drain.  How is Ohio State cheating?  If you mean that football players are admitted who may not have been had they applied on their academic credentials only, well UM and every other D1 school is guilty of that - essentially bending your standards in order to be competitive on the field.  Other than that, what cheating is there?  

Transfer Portal

December 10th, 2020 at 1:14 PM ^

On Xfinity, there is some random non-HD channel that will show a block of like 6 episodes of Little House on the Prairie.  If you see it click on the description.  They are always so sad and depressing that I can't believe how much my parents were into it in the 70's.

Vasav

December 10th, 2020 at 12:32 PM ^

This is awesome Seth, thanks.

Also - I saw your article about why we played the first football game, and....I mean, we can give this one to Rutgers, can't we? Or we should wait until 1905 with the first forward pass?

Either way, the only school that was battling for national championships at the turn of the 20th century and the turn of the 21st century is Michigan, so that's why we care about this. And I'm happy we care about this. It makes us better understand how the game adapts and evolves more than any other major North American sport, makes me more curious about the future of football and what the game can be, and makes me confident that Michigan can (and should) expect better than to be a top 15 program about half the time.

So thanks for this, it's nice to have during this week, in this year.

Tuebor

December 10th, 2020 at 12:54 PM ^

I've always been a proponent of using 1950 as the cutoff date between pre-modern and modern.  1950 is the last year an Ivy League team (Princeton) claims a national title.  It also dovetails between WW2 the civil rights movement.  

 

History is wonderful.  But what made Michigan special was having the history and also being currently relevant. We are fading in the latter.

 

 

Seth

December 10th, 2020 at 1:42 PM ^

There's a very general tendency to count about one generation beyond that person's memory as "modern," because to our own perspective that's when the people we know best have personal experiences. The middle of the 20th century aligns with the childhoods of the parents of today's middle-aged adults, so that's our average go-to.

You'll be unsurprised to learn the perspective on what is "modern" in the past did the same thing, using whatever momentous shift was going on to justify it. One day they'll break "modern" college football into pre- and post-2020 because after that players had NLI rights, and forget that 2010 used to be the cutoff point because that's when the conferences realigned, or that 2000 was because of the spread offense and internet-ized recruiting, or that 1990 was because that's when more than a few programs could get on TV and everybody had to jump into conferences, or 1980 because the passing game...

The idea that history is a continuation is one that's gained traction in academia, but gets a visceral negative response from the public, probably because our brains prefer everything nice and neat and boxy.

Tuebor

December 10th, 2020 at 2:05 PM ^

Fair enough.

 

Perhaps trying to split college football history into two eras is the problem. I chose 1950 because culturally the '50s are aligned with massive changes to US social structure. You have the growth of suburbs, colleges become more accessible to the middle class. These changes alone coupled with the racial integration in the south in the '60s is enough to say that somewhere in there is a before and an after that are different playing fields.  And given the Ivy League's early dominance of the sport, in my opinion the last Ivy League claimed national title is significant milestone.  

 

I love Michigan football's rich tradition and the Yost point-a-minute teams are stories that need to be told.  But these games happened a generation before my grandparents were even born ('late 20s early '30s).  Michigan was 13-0-2 against OSU before they even won a game.  That is eerily similar to OSU's current 15-1 run.  You can bet your life earnings that I'd rather be 15-1 over the last 16 years and still down 7 in the overall record than 13-0-2 from 1897-1918.  

 

Is that attitude the inherent selfishness of recency bias from the living? Sure. But I can't choose to be born in the late 19th century.  Nor would I want to truth be told.

Seth

December 10th, 2020 at 2:22 PM ^

Yeah, you've pretty much got it. We don't have to ignore major shifts or their effects on things, in fact the opposite: if you see a major shift in effect you should look back and see what the hell happened there. For example why did the Big 2 Little 8 become a much deeper Big Ten in the 1980s? Well, better coaches. Why did they have better coaches? Big Ten had more money. Why did the Big Ten have more money? Oh, better TV deal. Why better TV deal?

That's totally the right way to look at it.

And I don't mean to negate recency bias on the experience because duh: I'd rather win now than in the past too. The thing I wanted to get across in my justification for talking about these games, is that feelings are only part of the story, and the structure of college football only makes sense in the context of things that happened outside of our ability to feel much about it. You don't have to get roused by history (though it's possible to do so). But I do want people to relate to it, and see what kinds of things happened that are relevant to today, for example the way Ohio State fans immediately saw Michigan, not their Ohio unofficial conference-mates, as THE game, to the point where they canceled or rescheduled other games to go to it. Even though anyone who consciously turned around on Ohio State teaching science with public funds because they liked the football program is dead, Ohio State has maintained that relationship with the rest of the state. It wasn't some conspiracy that made them a lone power in a major football state. It was the structure from the get-go that came about for very relatable reasons!

Chris S

December 10th, 2020 at 2:14 PM ^

Dude, who cares about whether or not we're bringing up old stuff. This is a very well-written post. It's good to know for Michigan fans, and any college fans, really. You can gain a lot of perspective with what's happening today. I think the frustration comes when Michigan gets made fun of for our 20 National Championships Before WWII. It's college football: there will always be some kind of ammunition to make fun of with any program. All I know is those "stands" under the Point a Minute Three section look incredibly sketchy!

Also, I can't remember off the top of my head, but I'm assuming Boss Weeks made your All-Name Team under the Listen To Keith Jackson Say This All Day category?

Seth

December 10th, 2020 at 2:55 PM ^

Oh they were sketchy, not least because people were always trying to burn them down for reasons.

[looks at Northwestern*]

So Keith Jackson sounds like poetry because he speaks in anapestic (preacher-style) verse, therefore the best Keith Jackson names are names have three-syllable feet. I also love to give him either a rock-hard first name that he can emphasize, or go the opposite route and give him a vowel he can sing. Also make sure the last syllable has a good hard consonant in it.

Drue Tranquill.

Chris Colasanti.

Denard Robinson.

 

*Your team captain admitting Michigan was the more deserving Big Ten champion is a perfectly legitimate reason to burn down one's stadium

Thursday

December 10th, 2020 at 10:14 PM ^

I did my BA at Ohio Wesleyan, and across the street from the current stadium there is a flattish area with a bunch of trees, between the sulphur spring and the Delaware Run, with a historical landmark placard noting that this was the location of the first OSU football game. It was forgotten until only about a decade ago, when they found a letter in the archives that described it. I walk by every now and then and try to imagine it without the trees.

https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=18316

The hill that seated the spectators is built over by Phillips hall, which houses Psychology, Education, Philosophy, and Religion. 

https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/football-ohio-wesleyan-ohio-state-football-teams-to-celebrate-1890-matchup/

kshed

December 11th, 2020 at 4:03 PM ^

Both schools were also surprisingly modern in their football attitudes. They got up for rivalries. They had blue chip recruiting battles that went on for years. They had massive alumni networks who handled illegal payments to facilitate those recruiting battles. These fans and bagmen would get furious at their coaches when they lost big games, and schools relied so much on these people to fund and promote their school parts that they'd often capitulate, then launch searches as desperately insane as today's.

When did UM stop having a network of bagmen and when are they coming back?