OT - God the Tigers Suck

Submitted by BlueInWisconsin on

It's almost the All Star break, are the Tigers seem like a team that is sliding toward mediocrity.  In the past the Tigers could rely on superior starting pitching and inferior competition in the AL Central to eek their way into the playoffs.  Now neither of those things exist and team just seems totally listless.   Someone please tell me that there is some realistic hope for the second half of the season becasue this is getting depressing to follow.  Harbaugh can't get here fast enough.

Rodriguesqe

July 2nd, 2015 at 10:10 PM ^

Interesting idea. Bad OPS, but he might hit well getting all those #2 spot fast balls.

Waiting for Kinsler to break out of it might not work out well. The last few seasons the trend with him has been considerably worse second halves.

MGoBender

July 2nd, 2015 at 10:13 PM ^

I think that's exactly the idea in moving Cespedes up.  Suddenly, you're giving a power hitter a lot of fastballs to hit.  JD Martinez will take the brunt of that move, but if you can clump all that power at the top, you should be able to produce runs.

93Grad

July 2nd, 2015 at 11:35 PM ^

Sure the lineup is strong but the pitching is basically 2 1/2 sold starters and one dependable bullpen arm. The rest of the pitching staff is either a huge unknown or terrible. That is not a winning formula and they don't have the assets to make big improvements.



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50shadesofHARBAUGH

July 2nd, 2015 at 10:17 PM ^

Losing Scherzer, Porcello, and Fister has finally caught up with the Tigers. We were always able to pitch out of slumps, can't do that anymore. Price is the only legit starter we have. Can't win with that. So as much as people complain about manager, offense bullpen. It all comes back to starting pitching. So unless DD gets another starter, this team will not make the playoffs and the future looks bleak.

Hotel Putingrad

July 2nd, 2015 at 11:31 PM ^

and pick up another starter, they'll take one of the wild cards....or they can spin their wheels until the All-Star break and then start unloading. Sorry, Mr. Illitch.

swmichman

July 3rd, 2015 at 8:28 AM ^

Within two years time, DD  dismantled on of the greatest pitching staffs in modern era.  Combine that with they way he awarded mega contracts to Verlander, Miggy and Victor and this will haunt this team for years.  Look at the backs of Alfredo Simon and Shane Greene's baseball cards - What you're seeing is how they've performed over their careers. Simon is a journeyman at best... so what if he was an NL All Star in 2014, look at his 2nd half..look at all his years prior to that.  Mediocre minor league pitchers with no history of success usually just don't "find it" eventually.  At what point does DD realize this team isn't going to win a WS and start dumping veterans and reload the farm system?  When you have one Top 100 prospect in your entire organization (and he's #100 ), at some point you have to realize it's time to restock the system. 

blockm97

July 3rd, 2015 at 8:41 AM ^

I don't see how you can take shots at DD.  He has done far more good than bad as GM. 

Dismantling a great pitching staff?  The Porcello deal appears to have been smart as RP is getting blasted this year.  The price tag on Scherzer was ridiculous.  And while the Fister deal backfired...even DF has been injuried and regressing this year.  

Rodriguesqe

July 3rd, 2015 at 9:29 AM ^

Yea, thats overly harsh. Fact is, the budget really has only been a concern in the last couple years. the Fister trade was the first trade I can think of that was fiscally motivated and hurt the club.

I think DD's done a great job, but this is not a great year. And it does reflect on him.