Rod Gilmore and the Gardner quote
Last night Rod Gilmore said Hoke had actually once considered asking Gardner to leave the program. Gilmore said so many irritating, semi-insulting things about the UM program last night, but this one really floored me. Anyone else hear him say this or know what he might have been talking about?
October 12th, 2014 at 10:07 PM ^
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October 12th, 2014 at 10:25 PM ^
Sounds like being at the game and forgetting to DVR may not have been a bad move.
October 12th, 2014 at 10:52 PM ^
I don't know who is responsible for these assignments. I had heard that the director of sportscenter was an Ohio alum.
October 12th, 2014 at 11:48 PM ^
October 13th, 2014 at 12:11 AM ^
...with a generous definition of "ask".
How many times in his 13 years did Carr toss the transfer papers on the desk? What's the over/under on the number of players on the roster...on any roster, under any coach...who have had the "son, are you sure you really want to be here" conversation at some point in their career?
October 13th, 2014 at 12:45 AM ^
Think of August 2011, the time I was referring to. You actually think Hoke would've excused Devin, his backup quarterback, from the program when the only other quarterback behind Denard was Bellomy. Bellomy only committed a few weeks before NSD so its not like he was their top prospect for the position. Now I do agree that coaches surely ponder the question in general, but from what I observed there was nothing to merit Hoke to ask his backup quarterback to leave the program. Sure, him and DG didn't see eye-to-eye during those practices sometimes, but nothing to the extent of asking him to leave.
October 13th, 2014 at 12:53 AM ^
How many times in Carr's 13 years did he toss the papers on the desk and the player signed them and left?
It's a motivational tool. The risk is minimal, and the one time in 100 the player actually leaves you were probably both better off knowing up front.
October 13th, 2014 at 1:20 AM ^
Agreed it can be a motivation tool if it is kind of tounge and cheek, won't discount you there. With your point though, are you saying theroetically that when Carr tossed the papers on his desk he actually wanted the player to sign them or wouldn't care if he? Because the way you make it sound is "Oh ya, see these? Sign them and get out, we don't want you here." It could happen occassionally, but a coach isn't routinely doing this to players. Even if the player doesn't sign them, its pretty damning to your confidence that I'm not sure motivation will even overcome. You bring a kid in to play 4 years. Just because it doesn't work after a year or two you don't dust them.
October 13th, 2014 at 12:20 PM ^
No, just the opposite. I'm guessing the delivery wasn't tongue in cheek but I think every time he did it he fully expected the player to stay. (Maybe not with Mallett? I was never so sure there, but even that wasn't a 'dusting'. I'm sure he wanted it to turn around, I just don't know if he expected it.)
And that's why Gilmore's "asked him to leave" is getting the story completely wrong even if it's technically accurate, which it probably isn't.
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