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11/21/2018 - 6:01pm That's awesome. Thanks for…

That's awesome. Thanks for posting.

11/11/2018 - 3:24pm You must be looking at the…

You must be looking at the wrong poll, brother. LSU is 10th in the coaches poll, 9th in the AP. The AP does have Kentucky 12th, which is criminal, as you say. The coaches have them 21st, which is more accurate.

11/11/2018 - 3:20pm Forgot to mention one other…

Forgot to mention one other tidbit. In the coaches poll we increased our lead over Georgia by three points this week while losing a point to ND. In the AP poll both teams gained a couple points on us this week.

10/26/2018 - 11:12am Agreed. 


08/08/2018 - 5:25pm Awesome. Why don't you start…

Awesome. Why don't you start a thread for that?

07/23/2018 - 5:39pm Oh no! Has it affected your…

Oh no! Has it affected your ability to use that finger? That one's pretty important.

03/01/2018 - 5:21pm Awesome

Best thread of the day. I gave you one upvote for being a dork. People here are two serious.

02/27/2018 - 9:53pm so what?

I read the article. Dullest thing I've read in a long, long time. Do everyone here a favor: rebreak the link.

08/23/2017 - 11:13am Clue needed

You replied to the wrong post then.

08/23/2017 - 11:10am dope slap

Well I'd rather think that Kate Upton is leaving Justin Verlander to move in with me, my wife and our dog. My thought was that the three of them would sit around and rave about how great I am.

07/17/2017 - 12:32pm an internship?

Seems like it would be easier for the kid to be on the morning show if he was going to school in Ann Arbor, but maybe they plan to have him appear remotely. Video conferencing has really opened up lots of possibilities.

Of course I'm assuming Meyer really has arranged this, which may be a mistake. Why would Sam want the kid on his show if he goes to OSU? I guess you have to pat the kid on the back for factoring in somthing other than football, but he should get Meyer to put it in writing.

07/11/2017 - 2:15pm Thank you for the poll

Thanks for the thread and poll, Santa. I cringed yesterday when I saw this year's first installment of Geddon-whatever-it-is. I've really come to dread it. I gather that it's not a real fantasy league and the mods are using it as a vehicle to preview players, but the format does put me off; I've never been in a fantasy league and don't understand them.

Yeah, yeah, I hear the defenders saying just don't click on it. Trust me, I never have, but it takes up so much space and seems to drag on and on. I love this site, but I really dislike this feature. I think that opinion is as valid anyone who likes it, and I appreciate the chance to express it. I'm just sorry to see that so many people voted that they do like it.

06/09/2017 - 9:20am I just did ...

give them a second look. And now I'm going to give them a third.

I'm guessing you're a young man. You should be more generous; you'll be happier, and so will those around you. Those young women are all adorable and well worth appreciating.

04/21/2017 - 5:47pm annnnd ... still a dick

Halfway through this message I was going to give him an upvote for trying, but I guess some people can't help themselves. And it's not worth a separate post, but his next message only affirmed it. The only thing more dickish than a dick is one that won't shut up.

04/11/2017 - 10:18am Steve Fisher

I just noticed the thread above this one. Steve Fisher is available.

03/18/2017 - 10:40pm honest but incorrect

To be factual, they were equally random dudes that day. Both scored 14 points above their season averages. You made the math easy.

02/10/2017 - 11:13am Let me ask you something

Let me ask you something: What is a grit?

11/20/2016 - 2:28pm not so bad

Exactly, and when you look at it that way, the amount of experience isn't scary at all.

11/16/2016 - 2:43pm late and double-post

How many points do I get for that?

11/16/2016 - 2:40pm nah...

It's the manssiere.


10/19/2016 - 5:33pm nope

I didn't forget him. I intentionally didn't add everyone who's been mentioned as a possible take for us.

10/19/2016 - 1:37pm seems like a stretch

We're in good shape for a lot of great recruits, and it's real encouraging to hear about some of the highly-rated kids that are looking like serious possibilities -- Leatherwood, Browning, Austin Jackson. But it still seems like quite a stretch to say that we have a chance at the #1 class.

247 Sports has a neat tool that allows you to calculate the class score if certain individuals are added or subtracted to the current list of commitments. So I checked to see where we'd stand if we added the following:

- Alex Leatherwood

- Baron Browning

- Darnay Holmes

- Donovan People-Jones

- Isaiah Wilson

- Austin Jackson

- Drew Singleton

- Cesar Ruiz

- Nico Collins

- Chuck Filiaga

- Ambry Thomas

- Tarik Black

- Oliver Martin

- Jaylen Kelly-Powell

I also assumed we would lose Kurt Taylor.

Based on 247's system and their composite rankings, that would kick us up to 314 points, up from the 220 we have now (for 11th place). 314 would rank first today, but Ohio State and Alabama (293 and 289 points now) both look like they could go over 314 by signing day, since they only have 17 and 21 commits, respectively. Getting all of the above would bring our total to 29.

Obviously we could reel in some people not on the above list, but this would mean an exceeptional finish and I think the highest-rated class Michigan has had in the recruiting services era. That it still might not get the top rank shows what a tall task that is.

10/10/2016 - 8:47pm Exactly

They already have one. How could you improve on Wolverines?

09/30/2016 - 2:16pm Got it.


09/30/2016 - 2:04pm No link?

Could you at least tell us something about the basis for this? Someone else started a similar thread earlier this week, and it turned out to be based just on the fact that Mone was seen walking without a boot. It's nice to know how much stock to put in these statements.

08/01/2016 - 11:13am Did Harris commit yet? I

Did Harris commit yet? I haven't seen any follow-ups.

07/14/2016 - 3:51pm Ford's VP

The answer to your follow-up on #2: Nelson Rockefeller

07/14/2016 - 3:47pm lefties

I thought maybe Shane had yet to start a game, but he did start against Minnesota in 2014. As for the second person, I know Rick Leach was left-handed, and I'm pretty sure John Wangler was. But maybe Michael Taylor or Demetrius Brown were.

05/16/2016 - 10:32pm Hainsey no longer

I thought the tea leaves said the staff passed on Hainsey when he did not commit (or was it receive an offer) during a recent visit.

Oops. Hansard, the DT from NJ, was the guy I meant. The Blog things we're still in the running for Hainsey.

05/16/2016 - 9:56pm Pia

Our dog was christened Cassiopeia, but we call her Pia for short. And pronounce it pee' yuh. Glad to help.

05/15/2016 - 11:19am Love the sentimental stories

So is this what you had in mind, XtraMelanin?

05/02/2016 - 12:25pm Aggregate was my point

Actually, the aggregate of the recruiting class was my point. If we only had one or two other low-rated commitments, I wouldn't think twice about this. But he would be our 12th commitment for 2017, and the fifth rated below .8600 on 247. I arbitrarily picked that number as a range that's not close to four stars.

Yes, I understand that we need fullbacks and that you don't find them in the top 100. I'm encouraged that about this kid's MVP at the regional opening, so maybe Mason shouldn't be part of this conversation. But I'm still puzzled and disappointed that we accept commitments from as many lower-rated recruits so early in the process.

To say just trust the coaches ignores the fact that last year they took quite a few similar commitments early on and then had a mess when they decided later that they did not want some of them.

Put it this way: Compare our current list to Ohio State or Alabama, Georgia, Notre Dame or Oklahoma and see if you think we're keeping pace.

05/02/2016 - 9:48am Why?

I hope Sam's wrong. If he isn't, this will be another case where I don't understand why we accept a commitment. Yeah, yeah, I already hear the comments of trust Don Brown, trust Harbaugh, but it seems pretty clear that rankings are a good predictor of team success. I believe this coaching staff is abler than most at finding diamonds in the rough, but you live on that, can't have a class of diamonds. If we continue taking numbers of kids rated below .8600 I think we'll fall further behind the schools with average ratings of four stars.

Have you seen what Ohio State has so far for 2017? They're smoking us.

It would be different if we couldn't compete for top recruits. But Harbaugh showed late in the 2016 cycle that he could reel in four-star kids in a short time-frame. So things like this leave me scratching my head.

03/04/2016 - 7:34pm Hmmm

So I could have a say in this?

03/04/2016 - 5:44pm timeline?

Just curious. I have no idea what this is, but will it be over at some point.

03/02/2016 - 4:59pm Really?

What's her name?

02/12/2016 - 7:32pm Nice to have open minds

Its really refreshing to come to a blog where people express a variety of opinions and some are open-minded enough to consider the "other" side. I don't look at blogs for other teams, but I imagine a lot of them have nothing but homerism.

02/02/2016 - 10:11am Just like this thread

Just like this thread was given away for free.

02/02/2016 - 10:08am error

Sorry, I meant to post this above.

01/30/2016 - 4:12pm almost

A question mark on the end of that would have earned you my first upvote.

01/29/2016 - 10:45am calculating rank on 247

Honestly, I don't think it matters much whether a school ends up with the top-ranked class or, say, number 8. All of those will be good classes, and the margin of error in how good a recruit actually turns out to be is greater than the difference between the top 10 or 15 schools at this point.

But I've got time to kill until signing day, so what the hell. 247 has this nifty calculator that you can use to figure a school's score for this class if they add or lose certain prospects. So I'm playing around with the impact of Gary signing with us, of Asiasi and Tagaloa. It's a nice tool because it shows the points that each individual would bring. But I wonder if anyone can help me with a question: Why don't the individual scores add up their recalculated team score?

We rank third on 247 now, with 265 points and change. Signing Gary would bring us 30 points, Asiasi 23.8, Tagaloa 18.27 and Hill 14.31. That adds up to more than 86 new points, but the recalculated number is just 286. Anyone have some insight?

01/27/2016 - 4:36pm Asiasi and Tagaloa visits

Have we seen any reactions from Asiasi and/or Tagaloa since their visit? It was this past weekend, right? Would really seal this class to reel them in.

01/26/2016 - 3:32pm It may blow over

It may blow over, but that doesn't mean Michigan is handling this stuff the way it should. I agree with brianntb. Who cares if some kids make a commitment and back out of it? They're 17- and 18-year-old kids making decisions that are pretty important to their futures. We're the giant institution. Just do the right thing.

I'm sure recruiting is an enormously difficult and complex task with tons of pressure. But this part isn't that hard; just give the kids a lot more notice if you want to back out of an offer, or be more careful with offers in the first place. It's pretty clear in several of these cases that the staff cooled on the kid months ago.

01/26/2016 - 1:39pm not a fair shake?

Sounds like the vast majority of us are in agreement. It wasn't the most aggregious foul, but the coaches screwed up by not being more up front in steering these kids elsewhere, that it doesn't meet the ethics we would like the program to live up to, and that it creates image problems. Count me in the column of those who think Brian nailed it.

So this is a minor quibble, but I disagree with the notion that Michigan and Harbaugh have or will be treated unfairly over this. What are you saying -- yes, we screwed up, but the criticism is not fair because it doesn't capture every nuance of our perspective? That seems whiny and unrealistic. There's always some sloppiness to media coverage. Yes, it'd be great if every reporter was diligent and conscientious enough to get every fact right and to put them in perfect context. But when does that happen.

Be a big boy and expect that if you screw up you may get blasted, and some of the treatment may be off-target. If you don't like it, don't screw up.

09/11/2015 - 4:12pm Stroh's

I miss Stroh's.

09/03/2015 - 8:38pm watching online?

We ditched our TV a couple months ago. Is there anywhere to watch the action online?

08/22/2015 - 5:10pm 1. Rudock2. Green3. Harris

1. Rudock

2. Green

3. Harris (hope he can finish the season)

4. Canteen

5. Hill or Winovich

6. Charlton

7. Wormley

8. Clark

9. Hill

10. David

In most cases I'm just going with the person who was in front or seemed best at the end of last season, even though that probably holds less water with a new coaching staff. Rudock was better than Shane last year, Green the top back before his injury Canteen advantaged over a high school player, Wornley and Charlton getting the most snaps (that's my sense, anyway).

For #2 TE it depends on whether you mean H-back or a TE lining up on the line of scrimmage, because I expect Harbaugh will use both and they'll be different people. Hill's a returning starter at H-back, though Shallman will push him. For an inline TE, I think they're trying to replace Williams, and I'm guessing Winovich can catch better than Poggi and block better than Bunting.

Wilson an option for #2 safety? I assume he'll be the first safety. I guess you're counting Peppers as #1, but he's going to play nickel. Hill's getting buzz at safety as is Clark at CB, and I buy it. For kicker I'm going with the highly rated recruit.

05/01/2015 - 9:28am delete

misplaced comment

04/06/2015 - 6:54pm more 4 and 5 stars

I agree with umichsea -- feel like the recruiting isn't where it needs to be to meet expectations down he road. I know we're in good position with a few elite 2015 prospects, but I'm surprised at the number of offers going out to 3-stars, and the number of commitments we're accepting this early from that category. Yeah, yeah, I know -- great evaluator of talent, finds diamonds in the rough who fit his system, etc. I'd buy that if we were going after a few lowly rated kids to go along with mostly 4- and 5-star targets, but it seems like half of our offers are not elite prospects and that those being offered may soon be filling up the class.

I'm surprised because my impression was that Harbaugh's hiring immediatey made us a hot program, so I don't understand why we would have to settle. I think we've seen enough analysis the past couple years to make the case that number of stars is a fair barometer of future success.

So what am I missing? Like are a lot of these 3-stars going to get a fourth? Please tell me I'm missing something.

12/02/2014 - 4:19pm Thank you, thank you, thank you

For the dedication, recruiting, and caring about the kids. Thank you for running the program with integrity, even if not everything was handled perfectly (Gibbons).

Chill on that.