More evidence of awful culture at MSU, volleyball this time

Submitted by Amaizing Blue on

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/04/24/michig…

Short version-Rick Butler, A prominent youth volleyball coach was accused of sexual assault by six (!) different former players in 1995.  His defense (?) was that in at least three cases, the sex was consensual and happened after the players turned 18.  

Despite this, MSU volleyball kept recruiting his players and working with him well after these allegations were made public.  They played exhibition games at his facility as recently as 2014.  

The head volleyball coach at MSU, Cathy George,  worked for him in the past.  When she was the head coach at WMU, she was talking to one of the players who alleged Butler had abused her hundreds of times.  She apparently told her "I'm sorry that this all happened, but I will still have to recruit from him."  (Because, you know, winning.)

Their culture really is every bit as bad or worse than anyone could imagine.  They SHOULD fire everyone, wait three years, and start over.  They WILL...do as little as possible.

 

 

 
 

AVPBCI

April 24th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^

I don't understand one bit how this hasn't effected MSU in recruiting in football or basketball.

WHo seriosuly wants to go to MSU after all this.

Ramblin

April 24th, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^

I think that is the really scary part of all this.  Deep down, many people don't care or think it's girls crying rape.  I think the "they don't represent us!" faction at MSU is mostly a farce.  Beat Michigan.  If that means some girls get raped, so be it.  The stadium will be full next year with people rabidly cheering on a team that they damn well know has several future rapists on it.  They of course will rationalize this somehow, but I just can't see it any other way. 

Dantonio is still a hero even after he recruited Auston Robertson to the team.  I'm sure he has a few more questionable characters getting ready to suit up.  I'm also sure they are going to sell a lot of tickets and merchandise to an adoring fan base. 

Penn State is back riding the gravy train with famous comedians supporting the program.  The NCAA lifted the sanctions and gave back the wins.  The same thing will happen at MSU.  Jackson will go in the top ten in the NBA draft, think he gives a shit?  The lesson to be learned is clear: pay off the victims and carry on as usual.  It's very depressing to me at this point.

People will go to MSU because they think it is in their best interests to do so.  They will live in blissfull denial of the sick institution they are supporting.  Athletes will do the same.  It's human nature. 

God I'm so over all of this.  What sick joke it all is.  Sorry for the rant.

Lawyer12

April 24th, 2018 at 4:41 PM ^

It doesn’t effect recruiting in basketball or football because, in the case of girls being abused, it is assumed that a) it will not happen to a boy/man, and b) it is an issue that is not the direct fault of the coach and is in the past.

With regard to the basketball teams sexual assault issues, each parent and recruit believes this is something that will not happen to them and doesn’t affect them. Izzo has the keys to the kingdom of the NBA and that is too good to pass up in a lot of cases. That’s just the truth of the matter.

1201SouthMain

April 24th, 2018 at 2:36 PM ^

I understand looking the other way or paying players in FB and BB (not advocating but understand) because those sports generate a ton of revenue for big schools and subsidize the other sports.  But why risk "looking the other way" for a top volleyball recruit?  

saveferris

April 25th, 2018 at 7:08 AM ^

Because volleyball coaches want to keep their jobs.  If the systemic culture of your athletic department suggests that the way to keep your job is to win above all, then you "look the other way".  While some want to brush this incident aside as not as big a deal as other recent scandals, I think it's more damning to MSU because it really does support the claim that this culture of winning at the expense of the welfare of the athletes and students truly is institution-wide.

Some want to brush this off as piling on, but it's becoming clearer that MSU really doesn't take ethics into account when managing their sports programs, all in the interest of bridging the prestige gap they have with bigger names like Michigan and Ohio State.

Ramblin

April 24th, 2018 at 4:24 PM ^

Aside from MSU being buddy buddy with this guy (not suprising at all...  we are talking about MSU here), why was he allowed to coach girls volleyball?  Are there no adults left in the world?

dj123

April 25th, 2018 at 9:30 AM ^

So don't burn MSU down for this one, unless you are prepared to closely examine UM too. (Of course, broader context matters, and Mich is in better shape in that regard.) But still, this situation is pretty removed from direct MSU responsiblities.

 

I'm surprised the News reporter didn't at least peep at Michigan's roster before publishing.