Was the main topic yesterday on my call with HUEL this week. They put in a hotfix that isn't going to be a permanent solution. Drupal depreciated the old WYSIWYG editor so we had to install the new one, but all of the things we'd written for it have to be updated.
The list is the list. Jeremiah Beasley is going to count against Sherrone, Harbaugh will get credit for Evan Link, etc. I wasn't going to start taking guys off for editorial reasons. "Development" is only one part of what's going on here. They found talent, found self-motivators, figured out ways to project guys better (e.g. if their dad played in the NFL), and probably most effectively, they made it a program goal to prepare their players for the NFL. Harbaugh also likely used his connections in the NFL to help his guys. Development is in there somewhere too, but that's not really what we're able to measure. What we can say is Harbaugh-recruited players whose college careers are over were far more likely to be in the NFL than players recruited by former coaches.
I know y'all are being haters but point of fact: Michigan State credits transfer better than literally any other school. They get a lot of MSU transfers, and there's a lot of reciprocity between the school systems to convert each others' programs to credits at one or the other
Some of you weren't reading my 2020 and 2021 recruiting posts and it shows. This was a "Sad Josh" recruitment. As Sam reiterated on the radio today, Michigan was coming in soft for Mangham as a WR/DB athlete, and Mel Tucker's staff started working hard when they came online. Meanwhile Michigan was prioritizing Zeke Berry, found Damani Dent outta nowhere, and were all in on Keon Sabb. They also were fighting MSU for Dillon Tatum, but could afford to lose that battle given the other guys they got.
Now that safety class is at Bama, Charlotte, and nickel, and Rod Moore is out for the year. I guess I'm the official MSU non-hater around here now but I find it ideal--whatever school Mangham went to--if Michigan can just go to the next guy they wanted and steal a starter off a rival.
As for whether there's room, ah yup. Add Sabb and Q-Jo's snaps together from last year and that's the role that's available. Brandyn Hillman came in super-raw but he might be pushing for snaps by the end of the year. The only guy after him is true freshman Oden, who's a better player than people realize but also a true freshman. I'd add Mangham to that group in a heartbeat.
I'd also use the next heartbeat to lament the broken bits from going into the offseason with Rod Moore, Makari Paige, and Keon Sabb as our rotation. That Moore injury may be the suckiest injury at Michigan since...Aidan Hutchinson in 2020? T-Wolf in 2010?
"NCAA fix this" is a strawman. Today's conversation was about how negotiations over a settlement in the House case are an opportunity that the NCAA hasn't had yet to be sitting across from somebody at the other end of the table who is representing player interests. They can't just get out of the lawsuit without presenting a plan, so they can actually create a plan! The problem before was they couldn't negotiate because there wasn't a negotiating partner, and won't be until the players have a union capable of collective bargaining on their behalf.
In RR's slight defense, Hoke's staff didn't do a great job developing guys that Rich Rod and his staff only got through their freshman and sophomore years (he arrived too late in 2008 to build much of a class). And Practicegate and 3-9 and all of that also dampened recruiting, so the bottom of his classes were a lot lower. RR also had a few more guys I might classify as good college player who weren't as valuable to the NFL. Like, we'd recruit Craig Roh, Roy Roundtree, Devin Gardner, and Kevin Koger again, but those guys never made an NFL roster.
But he still had a lot of whiffs. Draft picks:
Name
Round
Taylor Lewan
1st
Mike Martin
3rd
Michael Schofield
3rd
Jake Ryan
4th
Denard Robinson
5th
William Campbell
6th
Mike Cox
7th
Josh Furman
7th
Jeremy Gallon
7th
Jordan Kovacs
UDFA+
Kenny Demens
UDFA
Patrick Omameh
UDFA+
Richard Ash
UDFA+
Fitzgerald Toussaint
UDFA+
4+-stars who weren't drafted:
Devin Gardner Darryl Stonum Dann O'Neill Craig Roh Justin Turner Demar Dorsey Je'Ron Stokes Boubacar Cissoko Cullen Christian J.B. Fitzgerald Tate Forcier Anthony LaLota Quinton Washington Sam McGuffie Marcus Witherspoon Brandon Smith Ricky Barnum Terrence Robinson Brandon Moore Michael Shaw Kevin Koger Marvin Robinson Ricardo Miller
You're making this more dramatic than it is. Yes, I think Warde only half-assedly tried to keep Harbaugh, and that some of the regents were very frustrated by this. But that was happening before Jan 8. After Warde made him sign a cheap deal in 2020 Harbaugh was going to be looking to get back to the NFL. I said as much in HTTV last year. He was more likely to stick around for a NC, but after he won one, the only thing that made it possible for him to return was that the NCAA and Big Ten were doing everything they could to push him out the door.
It's a lot more than optics. Employment agreements exist in all fields of business because a company can't spend all of its time swapping and retraining employees. It behooves both parties to sign an agreement providing stability.
Also the system right now makes players choose between optimizing their value as athletes and receiving a complete education. This incentive structure is backwards, but does competitively benefit the SEC, Ohio State, and most of the G5 schools who aren't providing high-value educations for their athletes (even if the school itself is a good degree). Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, and a lot of high-academic schools that recruit on education have been fighting this at the NCAA level for years.
Just checked his RS status. He burned it both years (meaning he played in more than 4 regular season games). Last year it was 4 snaps against Nebraska that did it.
The portal is weird and unknowable, but taking a cornerback to Oxford MS for a semester then returning him a wide receiver is probably its strangest move yet.
They're both home though? Clemons family lived in Michigan until he was like halfway through HS. Home for most of his life was Lansing. He was good friends with Andrel Anthony.
I'm glad I'm not alone on pnc. They just have so many cool quirks to discover as well. Like fans walking by can see into the bullpen so if you are walking by the river before the game you might see Pedro Martinez warming up.
Dodger Stadium Parking Lot is awful but you're right about the vibe. I didn't want to make neighborhood the main thing so I did not make it a large component of my rankings. Angel Stadium was very low for me because I used to have to do a trade show at Disney every year and thus gained a heavy diffinity for that fake texture style of architecture. Even the rocks aren't real. Dodger Stadium meanwhile transports you directly to 1960s L.A. Add the sweeping view and Elysian Park and it jumped out at me. As one of the last ballparks we saw I was not expecting to be moved. I literally still dream of being there. Fenway is still #1 but Dodger and PNC were the biggest surprises relative to my expectations before going.
Buddy from college and I have been seeing every ballpark, are gonna add St Louis to the list next week. I've made changes to my list since this Twitter thread.
Jacob's Field (Cleveland. The first trip. Went to see an interleague game vs Mets in college, made it back to Ann Arbor just as Larionov scored in 3OT after hopping radio stations to listen to it all the way home.)
Kauffmann* (Kansas City) ----Some character, nice place to see a ballgame
Seems to have substantially improved his range since 2021, automatic inside 40 for the last two years. Also kicked a program record extra points last year. pic.twitter.com/NT1z4zIbrV
No, before he was in the portal UK sites seemed to know they were making a run at him. Whatever this was, it was pretty clearly Kentucky tampering, not that anybody gets in trouble for that.
Speculation is useless but I seriously doubt it's a $$$ thing. Michigan just got a lot more money in their NIL fund and they prioritize current contributors. Not ruling out some wild promise, but just think it's unlikely.
Doubtful it's the main thing but one thing that's probably part of it is Waller was closely connected to Clink. Clink went to his high school. Clink prioritized Ohio. Clink was his primary. Clink develops tall CBs. Losing your #1 advocate makes everything else suck more.
As for timing, the Winter semester ended yesterday (Finals are this week).
It's the scrappy award for the least talented athlete that carved out a spot in the starting lineup. Or in my case, the athlete who picked a sport that had one other guy in his class and nobody in the class behind them (hence no winner in 1999) due to the coach being a drunk who spent all of practice in a bar, so that by his senior year he was the de facto coach who'd recruited all of the sophomores and freshmen himself.
Has nothing to do with his recruitment but I ran into his dad this morning at breakfast. Looking forward to Friday. If anyone's going down there and you're bored, check the Parents Award. Not a lot of great athletes, but a famous photographer, writer, blogger, and a couple of singers' names are on there.
It got boring to keep making the same joke so I edited it out. But once in awhile I throw it back in again. But I still have the with-joke version on a track in the file I create it with.
That was me. I removed a post that was slandering an important business partner. It was late, the thread was already out of hand, and I was too furious to respond to it without over-responding. Sorry for not posting it here; I had to stop at that point or I was going to start banning people for piling on. This is a company that saved our blog. I doubt three companies in the world had the patience and competence to do what they did, let alone care enough about this place to do it in a way that we could afford it. And they're still doing it.
Being critical doesn't get you banned, and being wrong won't usually get you banned either. But that thread went WAY over the line--well into slander--without anyone having the first clue what they were talking about, or showing even a modicum of curiosity. I'm not hosting that.
The old WYSIWYG editor was depreciated and we installed the latest one, which has more features that pushed other features to a dropdown. If you want to post an image, click the damn three dots in the upper right. If you don't like the design, take it up with the Drupal community. And if you want a helpful response, instead of damaging the site maybe just ask.
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Was the main topic yesterday on my call with HUEL this week. They put in a hotfix that isn't going to be a permanent solution. Drupal depreciated the old WYSIWYG editor so we had to install the new one, but all of the things we'd written for it have to be updated.
You're one podcast too late.
https://mgoblog.com/content/mgopodcast-1527-your-ring-makes-you-look-fat
The list is the list. Jeremiah Beasley is going to count against Sherrone, Harbaugh will get credit for Evan Link, etc. I wasn't going to start taking guys off for editorial reasons. "Development" is only one part of what's going on here. They found talent, found self-motivators, figured out ways to project guys better (e.g. if their dad played in the NFL), and probably most effectively, they made it a program goal to prepare their players for the NFL. Harbaugh also likely used his connections in the NFL to help his guys. Development is in there somewhere too, but that's not really what we're able to measure. What we can say is Harbaugh-recruited players whose college careers are over were far more likely to be in the NFL than players recruited by former coaches.
Just one time for the title.
I know y'all are being haters but point of fact: Michigan State credits transfer better than literally any other school. They get a lot of MSU transfers, and there's a lot of reciprocity between the school systems to convert each others' programs to credits at one or the other
https://mgoblog.com/category/tags/jaden-mangham
Some of you weren't reading my 2020 and 2021 recruiting posts and it shows. This was a "Sad Josh" recruitment. As Sam reiterated on the radio today, Michigan was coming in soft for Mangham as a WR/DB athlete, and Mel Tucker's staff started working hard when they came online. Meanwhile Michigan was prioritizing Zeke Berry, found Damani Dent outta nowhere, and were all in on Keon Sabb. They also were fighting MSU for Dillon Tatum, but could afford to lose that battle given the other guys they got.
Now that safety class is at Bama, Charlotte, and nickel, and Rod Moore is out for the year. I guess I'm the official MSU non-hater around here now but I find it ideal--whatever school Mangham went to--if Michigan can just go to the next guy they wanted and steal a starter off a rival.
As for whether there's room, ah yup. Add Sabb and Q-Jo's snaps together from last year and that's the role that's available. Brandyn Hillman came in super-raw but he might be pushing for snaps by the end of the year. The only guy after him is true freshman Oden, who's a better player than people realize but also a true freshman. I'd add Mangham to that group in a heartbeat.
I'd also use the next heartbeat to lament the broken bits from going into the offseason with Rod Moore, Makari Paige, and Keon Sabb as our rotation. That Moore injury may be the suckiest injury at Michigan since...Aidan Hutchinson in 2020? T-Wolf in 2010?
Scholarship players. Data are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kXyhlMo2Yzfgv9QGhnyeJp65DL9mUxF…
I said they exist, not that everyone's on one.
"NCAA fix this" is a strawman. Today's conversation was about how negotiations over a settlement in the House case are an opportunity that the NCAA hasn't had yet to be sitting across from somebody at the other end of the table who is representing player interests. They can't just get out of the lawsuit without presenting a plan, so they can actually create a plan! The problem before was they couldn't negotiate because there wasn't a negotiating partner, and won't be until the players have a union capable of collective bargaining on their behalf.
In RR's slight defense, Hoke's staff didn't do a great job developing guys that Rich Rod and his staff only got through their freshman and sophomore years (he arrived too late in 2008 to build much of a class). And Practicegate and 3-9 and all of that also dampened recruiting, so the bottom of his classes were a lot lower. RR also had a few more guys I might classify as good college player who weren't as valuable to the NFL. Like, we'd recruit Craig Roh, Roy Roundtree, Devin Gardner, and Kevin Koger again, but those guys never made an NFL roster.
But he still had a lot of whiffs. Draft picks:
Name
Round
Taylor Lewan
1st
Mike Martin
3rd
Michael Schofield
3rd
Jake Ryan
4th
Denard Robinson
5th
William Campbell
6th
Mike Cox
7th
Josh Furman
7th
Jeremy Gallon
7th
Jordan Kovacs
UDFA+
Kenny Demens
UDFA
Patrick Omameh
UDFA+
Richard Ash
UDFA+
Fitzgerald Toussaint
UDFA+
4+-stars who weren't drafted:
Devin Gardner
Darryl Stonum
Dann O'Neill
Craig Roh
Justin Turner
Demar Dorsey
Je'Ron Stokes
Boubacar Cissoko
Cullen Christian
J.B. Fitzgerald
Tate Forcier
Anthony LaLota
Quinton Washington
Sam McGuffie
Marcus Witherspoon
Brandon Smith
Ricky Barnum
Terrence Robinson
Brandon Moore
Michael Shaw
Kevin Koger
Marvin Robinson
Ricardo Miller
You're making this more dramatic than it is. Yes, I think Warde only half-assedly tried to keep Harbaugh, and that some of the regents were very frustrated by this. But that was happening before Jan 8. After Warde made him sign a cheap deal in 2020 Harbaugh was going to be looking to get back to the NFL. I said as much in HTTV last year. He was more likely to stick around for a NC, but after he won one, the only thing that made it possible for him to return was that the NCAA and Big Ten were doing everything they could to push him out the door.
It's a lot more than optics. Employment agreements exist in all fields of business because a company can't spend all of its time swapping and retraining employees. It behooves both parties to sign an agreement providing stability.
Also the system right now makes players choose between optimizing their value as athletes and receiving a complete education. This incentive structure is backwards, but does competitively benefit the SEC, Ohio State, and most of the G5 schools who aren't providing high-value educations for their athletes (even if the school itself is a good degree). Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, and a lot of high-academic schools that recruit on education have been fighting this at the NCAA level for years.
Just checked his RS status. He burned it both years (meaning he played in more than 4 regular season games). Last year it was 4 snaps against Nebraska that did it.
The portal is weird and unknowable, but taking a cornerback to Oxford MS for a semester then returning him a wide receiver is probably its strangest move yet.
my friend sent this to me with the obvious Ron Mexico joke.
Still "We." If you want to just go by direct ancestry everybody's from everywhere and nobody's from anywhere.
Still a big can of whoop-ass.
They're both home though? Clemons family lived in Michigan until he was like halfway through HS. Home for most of his life was Lansing. He was good friends with Andrel Anthony.
Priebe's at LG.
Don't see any issues?
I'm glad I'm not alone on pnc. They just have so many cool quirks to discover as well. Like fans walking by can see into the bullpen so if you are walking by the river before the game you might see Pedro Martinez warming up.
Dodger Stadium Parking Lot is awful but you're right about the vibe. I didn't want to make neighborhood the main thing so I did not make it a large component of my rankings. Angel Stadium was very low for me because I used to have to do a trade show at Disney every year and thus gained a heavy diffinity for that fake texture style of architecture. Even the rocks aren't real. Dodger Stadium meanwhile transports you directly to 1960s L.A. Add the sweeping view and Elysian Park and it jumped out at me. As one of the last ballparks we saw I was not expecting to be moved. I literally still dream of being there. Fenway is still #1 but Dodger and PNC were the biggest surprises relative to my expectations before going.
thx. I thought he'd redshirted in 2021-'02 but he played in 14 games.
Poor guy was never forgiven for the crime of not being Raylen Wilson.
Buddy from college and I have been seeing every ballpark, are gonna add St Louis to the list next week. I've made changes to my list since this Twitter thread.
* means we went on an opening day.
----Absolute Gems. Must visit if you're a fan.----
----Lots of character, worth a visit----
----Some character, nice place to see a ballgame
----Modern-ish parks with little charm---
-----Cookie-cutter or equivalent-----
--------Dumps--------
Non-MLB stadiums on the official tour anyways
Not visited yet:
I think he's trying to come back but he's not confirmed, therefore not on the roster.
Here's Turner's chart by the way.
The portal?
This was my question when we had the kids. They pulled the baby out, and the next thing you know they've acquired a hat.
brad.
Too many dudes and I have VICTORS to write.
It's still live 9 o'clock thursdays. We just don't take calls.
No, before he was in the portal UK sites seemed to know they were making a run at him. Whatever this was, it was pretty clearly Kentucky tampering, not that anybody gets in trouble for that.
Speculation is useless but I seriously doubt it's a $$$ thing. Michigan just got a lot more money in their NIL fund and they prioritize current contributors. Not ruling out some wild promise, but just think it's unlikely.
Doubtful it's the main thing but one thing that's probably part of it is Waller was closely connected to Clink. Clink went to his high school. Clink prioritized Ohio. Clink was his primary. Clink develops tall CBs. Losing your #1 advocate makes everything else suck more.
As for timing, the Winter semester ended yesterday (Finals are this week).
For those of us who edited the Scriptor because we couldn't make the football team as well!
It's the scrappy award for the least talented athlete that carved out a spot in the starting lineup. Or in my case, the athlete who picked a sport that had one other guy in his class and nobody in the class behind them (hence no winner in 1999) due to the coach being a drunk who spent all of practice in a bar, so that by his senior year he was the de facto coach who'd recruited all of the sophomores and freshmen himself.
Has nothing to do with his recruitment but I ran into his dad this morning at breakfast. Looking forward to Friday. If anyone's going down there and you're bored, check the Parents Award. Not a lot of great athletes, but a famous photographer, writer, blogger, and a couple of singers' names are on there.
Hatch/Hash. Michigan accent makes it impossible to tell the difference.
On Falcons
fixed title.
OSU fans still believe Michigan will vacate the entire season and probably several
don't care what useless people think
I am NOT drinking any manischewitz. That stuff is sugarjuice. I did however spend a lot of time with my 10yo writing a PowerPoint Haggadah.
They haven't mentioned kicking.
Linebacker in the portal who reached out to Michigan to see if there was a spot for him.
It got boring to keep making the same joke so I edited it out. But once in awhile I throw it back in again. But I still have the with-joke version on a track in the file I create it with.
I hear you but I can't seem to recreate it. I let HUEL know tonight and they're looking into it.
Annoying because it's something that we tested before launching the new WYSIWYG. Here's what happens when I go to upload a photo:
That was me. I removed a post that was slandering an important business partner. It was late, the thread was already out of hand, and I was too furious to respond to it without over-responding. Sorry for not posting it here; I had to stop at that point or I was going to start banning people for piling on. This is a company that saved our blog. I doubt three companies in the world had the patience and competence to do what they did, let alone care enough about this place to do it in a way that we could afford it. And they're still doing it.
Being critical doesn't get you banned, and being wrong won't usually get you banned either. But that thread went WAY over the line--well into slander--without anyone having the first clue what they were talking about, or showing even a modicum of curiosity. I'm not hosting that.
The old WYSIWYG editor was depreciated and we installed the latest one, which has more features that pushed other features to a dropdown. If you want to post an image, click the damn three dots in the upper right. If you don't like the design, take it up with the Drupal community. And if you want a helpful response, instead of damaging the site maybe just ask.
removed the puss thread
OT: The transfer portal is Kadyn Proctor's favorite place
Misleading, bad journalism. Procter had to enter the portal to transfer back to Alabama. He has done so.
I'm thinking about this. I make the call after my full season re-watch. Also MDen is out of blue jerseys right now.
I do know this (and looked it up today) but this blog has a stance on blue vs red that supercedes the GI Joe laser coloring scheme.