long-time lurker...this game finally brought me out

Remdog...let's not kid ourselves

ND was LEAGUES ahead of Michigan yesterday....I'm still kinda faded so I'll do it on a point by point basis:

- three boneheaded turnovers? First off, if you looked at those turnovers, it wasn't like the Denard turnovers from 2012; ND actually FORCED those turnovers with some very aggresive secondary play; god, I wish Michigan's secondary was like that...that's just called being out-played....also, as someone else pointed out in this thread, it was 21-0 in the first half with no turnovers

- Definitely agree that the 2 missed FGs were terrible

- but let's not blame the refs

- Michigan also lost while "out-gaining ND" because ND made up for it on Special Teams...their average starting position was at their 40 yard line..Michigan's average starting position was at their 18 yard line...please, let's not stick with the old "ohh but we out-gained them! so that means they're not that much better, or that means we lost the game ourselves (I know you didn't say this one specifically, but I've seen a lot of people do this)"

Also, one more thing...Michigan didn't run a play in Notre Dame's red-zone once