Yeah Lego can be a very expensive hobby. I would guess it’s about $2,500 in value of the pieces. Maybe slightly higher but probably somewhere around 8 cents a piece on average.
As for what I spent, I’d guess less but still probably around $2,000 over the course of three years. A significant number of the basic bricks I already had, but obviously those had to have been purchased from somewhere (a lot of bulk lots from Goodwill mostly). In the last year I placed a lot of orders on BrickLink, especially for the pieces used in the landscaping.
Thanks for sharing the Diag Lego project! Proud to have been recognized on here for my main hobbies of the last decade, playing with Lego and photoshopping bread into Michigan athletics photos.
Thank you! I’m really happy with the setup but it definitely is made possible by us not having kids. I don’t the space to stay that way forever and that’s ok. But it sure is nice to know where things are and not spend 20 minutes rummaging around in random bins for one piece.
Thank you! Yeah, not seen are the four additional 4 ft shelves off to the right. Only one is filled right now but they won't stay empty for as long as they probably should.
I don't have instructions (and to be honest it would take me far longer to make them than actually building these) but all of the buildings I did design in Lego Digital Designer before actually building them. I'm happy to share those files. Apologies if what I am writing up below is like another language to someone...
I would say some familiarity with LDD is going to be necessary in order to get anywhere with these. They are mostly complete files but some newer piece types aren't available in LDD because the program itself is pretty old (I know that I could use Stud.io but I find LDD so much easier). So in those cases I substituted in red pieces that had a similar footprint and made notes to myself of what to use. If you import the LDD files into BrickLink you can get a piece list and go from there. When I was building I would open up the LDD files and gradually delete pieces as I built them into the model. There was also definitely some freelancing on the structural work as I went. They might not look very pretty on the inside but they're pretty sturdy.
Thank you! Burton Tower was actually the very first campus building I made, about 5 years ago I threw together a very small version of it. It's on one of the shelves in the last few photos of that album. But having learned what I did after making these models I would probably start over on that.
The nice thing about the grid setup is that it's easy to add other baseplates in the future. So if I wanted I could add extensions on all sides to expand the scope of it.
Me too! I am moving at a pretty slow pace obviously but I'm torn now between moving towards other central campus buildings off the diag or north campus (where I work). North would definitely be easier to design, lots more brick buildings (maybe start with EECS or FXB).
I'd like to once life returns to some semblance of normal. The Ann Arbor District Library has an annual Lego event that would be fun to showcase at. Maybe they would be interested in having it displayed for a week or something in the lobby. There are also more regional Lego events every year like Brickworld although I've only ever been there as a spectator.
I'm more than happy to share the design, such as it is. Can't promise how easy to follow/intuitive it might be for someone else, though given the detail you're working with this should be accessible.
That is definitely that part I struggled with the most. I tried so many different variations with the eyes and never was fully satisfied with how it turned out. You can't see his left eye in the original photo, and none of the ways I tried with a visible eyeball/lid seemed to look any better than keeping most of the right eye in shadow.
If you're standing 8-10 feet away it looks great, but unsurprisingly becomes an issue the closer you get.
There are a few different ways, I designed this one mostly in photoshop.
There is some software out there to help, I've used LD Digital Mosaic Creator in the past as a starting point. It lets you define dimensions, brick orientation (do you want studs up or layered), and a few other things. You can then select/deselect which colors you'd want to use. If you have a simpler photo, or are just using fewer colors, you can usually get a great result without any extra work.
One issue with the mosaic programs is you can't bulk select certain areas to be a specific color. So for example in this project I knew I wanted the jersey to be mostly dark blue lego, but the program kept coding it as black.
The alternative is to create a grid in photoshop where each cell is the size of a 1x1 lego plate. You can then overlay the picture on it, and set filters so that only specific colors appear. Essentially you are doing the same thing as in the mosaic program, but you can now change and color individual cells if you want.
The first picture in this gif of the design process is the best I could get out of the mosaic program. From there I ported everything to photoshop and did it cell by cell.
However now you are stuck with a grid of 1x1 plates, which would be terrible to build. So then I'll go back and convert sections of the plates into larger plate or brick sizes (for example 4 plates wide X 3 plates tall is a 1x4 brick).
The Yellow Submarine set is so much fun to build. The Wall-E one was great as well.
Lego campus is my very very long term plan. I did the Burton Tower without much regard for scale relative to other buildings, so now I'm trying to define a consistent one starting with the grad library.
That is a skill set I'm still trying to build. The football and helmet I made the past few years were good learning experiences, but still simpler symmetrical and regular curves. I've been working with some 3D modeling software to try and learn more about how to build irregular 3D shapes, I think something like that will be my next project.
Yeah, the cost is mainly what limits me to one of these projects a year. Including shipping costs I think this was around $250. The helmet and football also cost a similar amount, but with maybe 1/3 of the pieces. I've gotten better at designing without some of the pieces that are particularly expensive.
I'll second the Michaels suggestion, I had them frame my Zoltan jersey a few years ago. I believe it was about $150 when all was said and done. Not cheap, but I wouldn't have trusted myself to do anywhere near as nice a job. Picture below from our most recent move...
Second year in a row my wife is at a national conference during the bye week. Spent the morning playing in the Arb with the dog and now we're both settling in for a nap.
No need to worry, we took care of the requisite Apple picking last weekend.
Glad to hear it, enjoy! At some point I'd like to go back and redo the football with what I know now. But you can swap pieces in and out to make a better structure in LDD. One thing to note is I used a ton of 1x2 plates on towards the middle because I built just 1/4 (ie half the bottom) of it and then flipped it to save time. So there is some room in the middle for adding stability and saving on pieces.
Yeah that's what I'm working on right now. I had one mocked up digitally but when I put it together it did not look right. I had messed up a bunch of the angles and how much it should extend out. Hopefully will be able to put a new one together relatively quickly.
Here is a Google Drive link to the Lego Digital Designer file...I think you should be able to download it from there. If not shoot me an email at [email protected] and I can send it directly.
If you've used LDD before you'll know the build plans it gives you are really strange and not as easy to follow. I just build from the ground up when I put it together but having scrolled through the LDD build instructions I think they're fine.
Here are the LDD files for the football, top and bottom half respectively. I would not advise someone use these as build instructions but certainly could deconstruct as a guide. It was designed from side to side, not top to bottom, which was a mistake. I haven't had any issues with the structure since I built it last winter but it could easily be done with 200 or so fewer pieces and way less stress. Also after I designed it I discovered some of the pieces were stupidly expensive or unavailable in dark blue.
From start to finish (design & build) the football was about 30 hours, the helmet took me slightly less. Maybe 25 hours or so. Usually was a saturday afternoon project for a few hours each week, but once I got close to being done I just wanted to finish it up.
Though since I'm sure people are curious I spent about $200 on pieces for the helmet and maybe $275 for the football. I bought pieces through various sellers on BrickLink and since I had to split up orders probably $30-40 of that was shipping costs.
The dark blue Lego pieces are generally more expensive than your standard colors and certain types of pieces aren't actually made (Example: there are no 1x3 or 2x3 dark blue bricks available). With the helmet I had a better idea of what pieces could maximize efficiency in the build while also keeping prices down, so that helped.
Oops, put up the wrong link at first in the main post. Two football pics below.
I did not go about building the football in the most efficient way, so it took more time than it should have. Probably 20 hours designing it in Lego Digital Designer, then another 10 or so to build.
Given what I learned from that experience the helmet went quicker, even though I think it was probably a tougher design. Maybe 10 hours working up the base design and then another 5 or so to rework it to get the color patterns right. Probably about 10 hours build time on that one too.
Of course the hardest part is ordering all the pieces and waiting impatiently for them to arrive.
Thank you! I am certainly happy to share them, see the links below and let me know if you'd prefer to grab them another way. You can email me at [email protected] if needed. Probably way more information than you're after but...
I did the planning in Lego Digital Designer and will readily admit that I did not build it in the most efficient way. I've tinkered with Lego my whole life but this was far and away the most ambitious project I've attempted. The final product is about 1,400 pieces (most of them small plates) and weighs about 2.5 lbs.
While the finished product turned out great some of the pieces aren't as secure as I'd like. I haven't had any issues yet with the structure weakening so I haven't been incentivized to go back and improve it but there are definitely changes that could be made for the better. As far as actual design, it is essentially a sphere with the middle portions cut out to make the oval shape. The maize M is on both sides of the top half.
It is hollow inside but the inner workings/supports are kind of a mess. I don't have pictures but if you look through the plans you'll see that it was a pretty rough approach inside. Having the M on the top half looks great but it threw a wrench in the piece arrangements since I had to switch colors. The lower half was much more simple.
I built the halves separately and then put together, mainly because I was concerned about not being able to complete the top/bottom without being able to get into certain grooves if I just built from the bottom up. Lego Digital Designer auto generates instructions (the ones linked below) but they skip around in strange ways so I didn't quite adhere to them.
Lastly, I used regular yellow Lego plates/bricks for the bottom and dark blue ones for the top, most of which were ordered from sellers on BrickLink. I didn't take price/rarity of pieces into account when designing (a mistake on my part) and had to made adjustments because of that. For example 1x6 dark blue plates sell for about $2 each, and my original plans called for 40 of those. Using traditional blue lego bricks for the top would certainly save some money. I spent about $200 on pieces for the model.
My signed Zoltan jersey is definitely one of my most prized posessions and hangs above my desk at home. Also not sure if it qualifies but I am proud of the Lego football I built this winter and it is now in a display case below the Zoltan jersey.
My wife and I brought home a golden retriever puppy last Friday so we'll be spending the weekend playing and training with her. Been a ton of fun but absolutely exhausting.
Much more tolerable to stand outside at 3 AM waiting for her to pee when it isn't 15 and snowing.
My signed Zoltan jersey is my most prized Michigan possession, have it hanging above my desk. Had to make sure to it stayed safe when moving last summer.
Bought tickets for the 2008 Capital One Bowl. Had to use my ID to pick them up from the Ticket Office but they were just regular tickets. No ID needed to get in the stadium. We were just in a section with other Michigan fans, not all students.
Wonderful, thank you! I am going to give this a shot next weekend. I think I would also prefer making small ones in muffin tins vs. a large loaf, and it is hard to object to fresh brioche in the morning.
For the last two years or so I've been doing a lot of sourdough loaves but have been trying to do more yeast breads recently. Been busier on the weekends and don't have as much time to sit around and wait for slow rises. I make a more basic sandwich loaf once a week and in the summer especially make lots of corn bread.
I'd be interested to see what you do for brioche and the milk loaf, I haven't done much before with either of those two.
At the risk of being too self-promoting, here is a pretty comprehensive list of everything I've baked since 2012.
For the last four or so years I've spent a good chunk of my free time baking bread. It's a great hobby to have because you always have bread around the house. It's a terrible hobby to have because you always have bread around the house. More recently I've taken to photoshopping said bread into Michigan football related photos.
This year is an interesting turning point in the acceptance rate/yield relationship for U-M admissions. Since moving over to the Common App the acceptance rate has consistently been right around 33%.
The big drop in acceptance rate this year is in response to the yearly problem of over-enrollment for Michigan. But acceptance rate and yield are inversely proportional, so admitting fewer doesn't always mean you get fewer.
Last year U-M accepted around 30% and got a 42% yield. This year they had a 46% yield from a 26% admit rate. The Ivy League is an extreme example of this, where schools like Harvard admit 6% or so but have a yield of over 80%.
Because of summer melt (kids who accept the offer but end up not coming in the fall for any number of reasons) there will be about 6,000 new students in the fall which is usually U-M's target.
My wife had no interest in a fall wedding. Partially because we both prefered summer but also because she realized that even if we got married on a Michigan bye week, somewhere down the line our anniversary would be on a Michigan game day.
when I was editing the photo, especially the guy smiling behind Breaston with a massive lens pointed the opposite direction. I almost went with another picture because of it, but liked the way this one worked out.
Edit: Also worth noting that I think this picture was from a 50 yd TD reception, not a return TD. But it was three plays after Breaston had returned the ball back to the 50.
In 9th grade rec baseball I struck out 13 over 5 perfect innings (we played 7 inning games). I got pulled because of pitch count/so other kids could pitch (it was a rec league after all). It's the only time I remember my dad getting into an argument with one of my coaches.
Wasn't an actual game but freshman through junior year at Michigan I did try out for the football team four times. Determined to be the next great Michigan punter, I really should have learned how to kick field goals.
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Yeah Lego can be a very expensive hobby. I would guess it’s about $2,500 in value of the pieces. Maybe slightly higher but probably somewhere around 8 cents a piece on average.
As for what I spent, I’d guess less but still probably around $2,000 over the course of three years. A significant number of the basic bricks I already had, but obviously those had to have been purchased from somewhere (a lot of bulk lots from Goodwill mostly). In the last year I placed a lot of orders on BrickLink, especially for the pieces used in the landscaping.
Thanks for sharing the Diag Lego project! Proud to have been recognized on here for my main hobbies of the last decade, playing with Lego and photoshopping bread into Michigan athletics photos.
Thank you! I’m really happy with the setup but it definitely is made possible by us not having kids. I don’t the space to stay that way forever and that’s ok. But it sure is nice to know where things are and not spend 20 minutes rummaging around in random bins for one piece.
Thank you! Yeah, not seen are the four additional 4 ft shelves off to the right. Only one is filled right now but they won't stay empty for as long as they probably should.
I don't have instructions (and to be honest it would take me far longer to make them than actually building these) but all of the buildings I did design in Lego Digital Designer before actually building them. I'm happy to share those files. Apologies if what I am writing up below is like another language to someone...
I would say some familiarity with LDD is going to be necessary in order to get anywhere with these. They are mostly complete files but some newer piece types aren't available in LDD because the program itself is pretty old (I know that I could use Stud.io but I find LDD so much easier). So in those cases I substituted in red pieces that had a similar footprint and made notes to myself of what to use. If you import the LDD files into BrickLink you can get a piece list and go from there. When I was building I would open up the LDD files and gradually delete pieces as I built them into the model. There was also definitely some freelancing on the structural work as I went. They might not look very pretty on the inside but they're pretty sturdy.
LDD Campus Files
Thank you! Burton Tower was actually the very first campus building I made, about 5 years ago I threw together a very small version of it. It's on one of the shelves in the last few photos of that album. But having learned what I did after making these models I would probably start over on that.
The nice thing about the grid setup is that it's easy to add other baseplates in the future. So if I wanted I could add extensions on all sides to expand the scope of it.
Me too! I am moving at a pretty slow pace obviously but I'm torn now between moving towards other central campus buildings off the diag or north campus (where I work). North would definitely be easier to design, lots more brick buildings (maybe start with EECS or FXB).
I'd like to once…
Thank you!
I'd like to once life returns to some semblance of normal. The Ann Arbor District Library has an annual Lego event that would be fun to showcase at. Maybe they would be interested in having it displayed for a week or something in the lobby. There are also more regional Lego events every year like Brickworld although I've only ever been there as a spectator.
But the correct answer is my signed Zoltan Mesko jersey.
I'm more than happy to share the design, such as it is. Can't promise how easy to follow/intuitive it might be for someone else, though given the detail you're working with this should be accessible.
That is definitely that part I struggled with the most. I tried so many different variations with the eyes and never was fully satisfied with how it turned out. You can't see his left eye in the original photo, and none of the ways I tried with a visible eyeball/lid seemed to look any better than keeping most of the right eye in shadow.
If you're standing 8-10 feet away it looks great, but unsurprisingly becomes an issue the closer you get.
The first picture in this gif of the design process is the best I could get out of the mosaic program. From there I ported everything to photoshop and did it cell by cell.
The Yellow Submarine set is so much fun to build. The Wall-E one was great as well.
Lego campus is my very very long term plan. I did the Burton Tower without much regard for scale relative to other buildings, so now I'm trying to define a consistent one starting with the grad library.
That is a skill set I'm still trying to build. The football and helmet I made the past few years were good learning experiences, but still simpler symmetrical and regular curves. I've been working with some 3D modeling software to try and learn more about how to build irregular 3D shapes, I think something like that will be my next project.
Yeah, the cost is mainly what limits me to one of these projects a year. Including shipping costs I think this was around $250. The helmet and football also cost a similar amount, but with maybe 1/3 of the pieces. I've gotten better at designing without some of the pieces that are particularly expensive.
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I'll second the Michaels suggestion, I had them frame my Zoltan jersey a few years ago. I believe it was about $150 when all was said and done. Not cheap, but I wouldn't have trusted myself to do anywhere near as nice a job. Picture below from our most recent move...
No need to worry, we took care of the requisite Apple picking last weekend.
Glad to hear it, enjoy! At some point I'd like to go back and redo the football with what I know now. But you can swap pieces in and out to make a better structure in LDD. One thing to note is I used a ton of 1x2 plates on towards the middle because I built just 1/4 (ie half the bottom) of it and then flipped it to save time. So there is some room in the middle for adding stability and saving on pieces.
Yeah that's what I'm working on right now. I had one mocked up digitally but when I put it together it did not look right. I had messed up a bunch of the angles and how much it should extend out. Hopefully will be able to put a new one together relatively quickly.
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/lego-michigan-helmet-football#comment-4018083
I've got a 6 month old puppy so I think I'd pass on the small child for now. But she is not nearly as useful around the house...
Here is a Google Drive link to the Lego Digital Designer file...I think you should be able to download it from there. If not shoot me an email at [email protected] and I can send it directly.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7pdi6AomxYEd1BPVktMZEhIdW8
If you've used LDD before you'll know the build plans it gives you are really strange and not as easy to follow. I just build from the ground up when I put it together but having scrolled through the LDD build instructions I think they're fine.
Here are the LDD files for the football, top and bottom half respectively. I would not advise someone use these as build instructions but certainly could deconstruct as a guide. It was designed from side to side, not top to bottom, which was a mistake. I haven't had any issues with the structure since I built it last winter but it could easily be done with 200 or so fewer pieces and way less stress. Also after I designed it I discovered some of the pieces were stupidly expensive or unavailable in dark blue.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7pdi6AomxYEN1BKOHZ5ZDdkMFU
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7pdi6AomxYEaWhqbldnZ3pMTEU
From start to finish (design & build) the football was about 30 hours, the helmet took me slightly less. Maybe 25 hours or so. Usually was a saturday afternoon project for a few hours each week, but once I got close to being done I just wanted to finish it up.
I designed one in the original plans but once I put it together it did not seem to really fit well with the helmet.
I had used these type of pieces that click together at an angle but it just looked kind of clunky. I'm trying to redesign it just with standard pieces, maybe a few hinges for rotation in some places.
Sorry, these ones are just for me : )
Though since I'm sure people are curious I spent about $200 on pieces for the helmet and maybe $275 for the football. I bought pieces through various sellers on BrickLink and since I had to split up orders probably $30-40 of that was shipping costs.
The dark blue Lego pieces are generally more expensive than your standard colors and certain types of pieces aren't actually made (Example: there are no 1x3 or 2x3 dark blue bricks available). With the helmet I had a better idea of what pieces could maximize efficiency in the build while also keeping prices down, so that helped.
I designed one in the original plans but once I put it together it did not seem to really fit well with the helmet.
I had used these type of pieces that click together at an angle but it just looked kind of clunky. I'm trying to redesign it just with standard pieces, maybe a few hinges for rotation in some places.
Oops, put up the wrong link at first in the main post. Two football pics below.
I did not go about building the football in the most efficient way, so it took more time than it should have. Probably 20 hours designing it in Lego Digital Designer, then another 10 or so to build.
Given what I learned from that experience the helmet went quicker, even though I think it was probably a tougher design. Maybe 10 hours working up the base design and then another 5 or so to rework it to get the color patterns right. Probably about 10 hours build time on that one too.
Of course the hardest part is ordering all the pieces and waiting impatiently for them to arrive.
Having some issues getting the pictures to show up in the main post.
Thank you! I am certainly happy to share them, see the links below and let me know if you'd prefer to grab them another way. You can email me at [email protected] if needed. Probably way more information than you're after but...
I did the planning in Lego Digital Designer and will readily admit that I did not build it in the most efficient way. I've tinkered with Lego my whole life but this was far and away the most ambitious project I've attempted. The final product is about 1,400 pieces (most of them small plates) and weighs about 2.5 lbs.
While the finished product turned out great some of the pieces aren't as secure as I'd like. I haven't had any issues yet with the structure weakening so I haven't been incentivized to go back and improve it but there are definitely changes that could be made for the better. As far as actual design, it is essentially a sphere with the middle portions cut out to make the oval shape. The maize M is on both sides of the top half.
It is hollow inside but the inner workings/supports are kind of a mess. I don't have pictures but if you look through the plans you'll see that it was a pretty rough approach inside. Having the M on the top half looks great but it threw a wrench in the piece arrangements since I had to switch colors. The lower half was much more simple.
I built the halves separately and then put together, mainly because I was concerned about not being able to complete the top/bottom without being able to get into certain grooves if I just built from the bottom up. Lego Digital Designer auto generates instructions (the ones linked below) but they skip around in strange ways so I didn't quite adhere to them.
Lastly, I used regular yellow Lego plates/bricks for the bottom and dark blue ones for the top, most of which were ordered from sellers on BrickLink. I didn't take price/rarity of pieces into account when designing (a mistake on my part) and had to made adjustments because of that. For example 1x6 dark blue plates sell for about $2 each, and my original plans called for 40 of those. Using traditional blue lego bricks for the top would certainly save some money. I spent about $200 on pieces for the model.
Top Half PDF Instructions
Bottom Half PDF Instructions
Top Half LDD File
Bottom Half LDD File
My signed Zoltan jersey is definitely one of my most prized posessions and hangs above my desk at home. Also not sure if it qualifies but I am proud of the Lego football I built this winter and it is now in a display case below the Zoltan jersey.
Much more tolerable to stand outside at 3 AM waiting for her to pee when it isn't 15 and snowing.
My signed Zoltan jersey is my most prized Michigan possession, have it hanging above my desk. Had to make sure to it stayed safe when moving last summer.
Bought tickets for the 2008 Capital One Bowl. Had to use my ID to pick them up from the Ticket Office but they were just regular tickets. No ID needed to get in the stadium. We were just in a section with other Michigan fans, not all students.
Wonderful, thank you! I am going to give this a shot next weekend. I think I would also prefer making small ones in muffin tins vs. a large loaf, and it is hard to object to fresh brioche in the morning.
For the last two years or so I've been doing a lot of sourdough loaves but have been trying to do more yeast breads recently. Been busier on the weekends and don't have as much time to sit around and wait for slow rises. I make a more basic sandwich loaf once a week and in the summer especially make lots of corn bread.
I'd be interested to see what you do for brioche and the milk loaf, I haven't done much before with either of those two.
At the risk of being too self-promoting, here is a pretty comprehensive list of everything I've baked since 2012.
http://www.bakersandbest.com/recipes/breads/
Wow that is really incredible, impressive work.
For the last four or so years I've spent a good chunk of my free time baking bread. It's a great hobby to have because you always have bread around the house. It's a terrible hobby to have because you always have bread around the house. More recently I've taken to photoshopping said bread into Michigan football related photos.
This year is an interesting turning point in the acceptance rate/yield relationship for U-M admissions. Since moving over to the Common App the acceptance rate has consistently been right around 33%.
The big drop in acceptance rate this year is in response to the yearly problem of over-enrollment for Michigan. But acceptance rate and yield are inversely proportional, so admitting fewer doesn't always mean you get fewer.
Last year U-M accepted around 30% and got a 42% yield. This year they had a 46% yield from a 26% admit rate. The Ivy League is an extreme example of this, where schools like Harvard admit 6% or so but have a yield of over 80%.
Because of summer melt (kids who accept the offer but end up not coming in the fall for any number of reasons) there will be about 6,000 new students in the fall which is usually U-M's target.
last year on flag day. My one non-negotiable wedding item was ordering fortune cookies with these inside.
My wife had no interest in a fall wedding. Partially because we both prefered summer but also because she realized that even if we got married on a Michigan bye week, somewhere down the line our anniversary would be on a Michigan game day.
They have been a fun way for me to learn more about Michigan football history since I didn't grow up with the school.
when I was editing the photo, especially the guy smiling behind Breaston with a massive lens pointed the opposite direction. I almost went with another picture because of it, but liked the way this one worked out.
Edit: Also worth noting that I think this picture was from a 50 yd TD reception, not a return TD. But it was three plays after Breaston had returned the ball back to the 50.
In 9th grade rec baseball I struck out 13 over 5 perfect innings (we played 7 inning games). I got pulled because of pitch count/so other kids could pitch (it was a rec league after all). It's the only time I remember my dad getting into an argument with one of my coaches.
Wasn't an actual game but freshman through junior year at Michigan I did try out for the football team four times. Determined to be the next great Michigan punter, I really should have learned how to kick field goals.