LSAClassOf2000

January 16th, 2012 at 6:45 AM ^

It is interesting that high levels of national scrutiny can inspire a change in one's otherwise casual approach to player discipline, although this doesn't help Meyer slow the arrest rate of Ohio players any. Again, Clarke was an inherited problem, so I am not sure if we should count him as being part of whatever legacy Meyer is beginning at Ohio - after all, Clarke's problems were apparent when the regent Fickell was ruling in Meyer's stead. 

burtcomma

January 16th, 2012 at 9:03 AM ^

Those high levels of national scrutiny and having ESPN and other new organizations outside of the Columbus family watching your every move might well change somethings down in Columbus for some time period.  Let's watch, document, and wait.........You can always judge Urban by what he does in the long term.....

Section 1

January 16th, 2012 at 10:34 AM ^

Does anybody have one really good clear example of an OSU off-field incident that was treated differently than a similar incident at Michigan?  Most particularly a case of a player's getting clear disparate treatment because he was a starter?

I can't.  Michigan has had some dumb screwups, and a very few antisocial criminals; OSU has had maybe a few more than we have.  I see all of them getting largely the same treatment.  Much of it is more lenient than what I might recommend on my own.

No one has yet mentioned it; I look at the case of Jaamal Berry, who I really thought, as of the OSU spring game last year, would be their eventual starter at tailback.  The moment after Berry's arrest was processed and Franklin County Prosectors issued an indictment, he was suspended by the team.  (Fickell at that time.)  Berry remains suspended, and like Stonum, he might not ever return.

It is so typical of these fan-site boards.  At 11W, they are laughing at the lax treatment accorded to Stonum.  At MGoBlog, the common thought is that Urban Meyer is a sort of criminal ennabler if not an active co-conspirator, after having been on the job for 12 days.  Both extremes are not even a serious comparative discussion.  It's like sportstalk radio.

 

 

 

 

mgoblue0970

January 16th, 2012 at 11:00 AM ^

Your point is well taken... along with the neg banging that occurs in here when someone has the stones to speak the truth even when they're right -- I don't understand it all the time either.

However, tUoOS has a long and distinguished record of felon alumni... from Art Schlichter to Maurice Claret.

I think tUoOS does get treated differently though.  Last year, they had players ruled out for the season but not the bowl game.  WTF?  Next year, they lose a bowl game -- as a repeat offender no less.  Michigan got a lot more for 20 minutes of stretching.

neyvit

January 16th, 2012 at 11:31 AM ^

The discussion is regarding criminal activties and how the staff chooses to discpline its players for crimes committed.  Selling your own stuff and getting discounts is not a crime - big difference between NCAA violations and crimes.  Let's not equate drunk driving and domestic violence with that. 

Also, I think you may be confused what the term "a lot more" means.