Rivals article on Charlie Weis provides another reason why not to fire Rich (at least yet)
Rivals article on Charlie Weis provides another reason why not to fire Rich (at least yet)
So this article by Dan Wetzel gives another reason to give Rich more time:
"By beating USC, Florida and Texas for more than his fair share of coveted prospects the last few years ... Weis’ recruiting work is why this is actually a better job today than five years ago."
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AjYgSWFmbwQRb36YggnKfXo…
The key insight here being, if we fired Rich now, with so many holes in our team, not only would the open position be unattractive because we only gave Rich 2 years, it would also be unattractive because our current talent / experience deficiencies.
So for all you Rich Rod haters out there -- we're better off letting him recruit for one or two more years, and then firing him...
For the rest of us (fence sitters or Rich Rod proponents): we're better off giving him one or two more years.
(This probably works for GERG too ...)
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:45 PM ^
Anybody know how to get rid of one while keeping the other?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:46 PM ^
the mods do that.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:46 PM ^
Get Charlie's last name right. It's WEIS not WEISS. Weis is Catholic, not Jewish.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 PM ^
For pointing that out.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:50 PM ^
Fixed Weis' name. Thanks for pointing it out.
I apologize if I have offended anyone who is Catholic or Jewish, and apologize to Charlie as well ;-)
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 PM ^
Both names are germanic in origin. "Weiss" is german for "white." Just like "Schwartz," a not uncommon name, is german for "black." It has nothing to do with being Jewish or not, it's just that many Jewish immigrants came from german-speaking countries.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:54 PM ^
The key insight here being, if we fired Rich now, with so many holes in our team, not only would the open position be unattractive because we only gave Rich 2 years, it would also be unattractive because our current talent / experience deficiencies. So for all you Rich Rod haters out there -- we're better off letting him recruit for one or two more years, and then firing him...This needs to be posted repeatedly so maybe the "Fire RR and cut our losses" crowd will realize that, even if Rodriguez is the wrong person for the job like they are already assuming, firing him won't cut our losses, but make them worse. Especially if the proposed replacement runs a completely different system and started his current tenure with two losing seasons despite inheriting a system similar to the one he runs.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:59 PM ^
the fire RR and cut our losses crowd are complete idiots.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:52 PM ^
...to call for someone's firing.
The reality is that Rich Rod isn't going anywhere. He will coach next year. Barring any other meltdowns or scandals, a decent season keeps him as the head coach with the hope that 2011 is a break out year (BCS bowl bid, Big 10 championship..hopefully).
If the impatient fanatics need to wake up to the reality that a football team that was stripped bare to be rebuilt is going ot need more than two years to turn things around.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:03 PM ^
but i have just about seen enough "why we should not fire RR" posts on mgoblog. People should seriously start considering looking at past posts on this topic before starting a new thread. I don't mind when new information provides additional insight on the topic but for the last few weeks its been a re-thread of the same old shit - we shouldn't fire RR cause we have too many holes in our team, we shouldn't fire RR cause chaos will ensue like it did for Sparty, we shouldn't fire RR cause no other coach will want to come here, we shouldn't fire RR cause every coach needs at least 3 years, and so on, and so on. Well guess what? The majority of Mgobloggers do not want RR to go. You are preaching to the choir here, at least for the next year. Sorry guys but when is it enough?
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:01 PM ^
that I can only give one up arrow on that post.
nice work
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:47 PM ^
You have a point, thoug I don't recall seeing this nuance posted a reason before.
That said, I have been contemplating a longer summary of thoughts post season, one of which is it is a mistake for us to totally abandon sites like the Freep. At least some of us should state the logic and facts on those boards.
Anyway, I hadn't seen this twist so I posted it so we could add it to the list.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:51 PM ^
it was nothing against you personally, just that this topic has been discussed to death and after Bill Martin officially came out and said RR will be here next year it should remind us all that our discussions about why RR should not be fired are moot until November 2010.